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Old 17-11-2016, 11:46
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No you are actually both mine were allografts because they give the strongest repairs, or so I was told at the time, even the autograft way it is a tendon or part of the hammy that goes in, so whatever the knee is different after the op will feel different in some way.

I wish I was ignorant on this subject believe me.

You know it ought to be written in big black letters somewhere, just because you, your family , freinds, neighbours etc etc, have had experience of a medical problem does not mean that you now know everything there is about a particular medical condition.

Your experience is particular to you.

In order for a cruciate ligament to be successful you need to have the right surgeon,

Be very fit and flexible,not overweight, young,pre op prepared to put in a lot of intense rehab post op and so far Ola seems to have fulfilled all those criteria.

She came back, did some amazing dances on SCD the year after her operation on television and you are telling me she can't have done because you couldn't have done. I prefer to beleive the evidence of my own eyes.

I am sorry your operation was not as successful but you really are talking rubbish and I am out, you have no idea what you are on about.
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Old 17-11-2016, 11:49
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These zelebs will never live within their means or save money for the future like normal people would do. And when the source of their income eventually dries out they are f***ed.
I don't know who exactly the "zelebs" you are mean, I can only know about pro dancers -including JJ - and I can tell you that they most certainly do live within their means and save for the future.
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Old 17-11-2016, 12:00
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I know it's early days but I think she is coming across well in the jungle.
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Old 17-11-2016, 12:06
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I've no problems with the enterprises ex-Strictly people get into. It's their lives and there's a limit to the time that they can earn any "big money" doing what they subsequently do.
Retirement for them will be a very long time and they need to provide for it.
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Old 17-11-2016, 12:29
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You know it ought to be written in big black letters somewhere, just because you, your family , freinds, neighbours etc etc, have had experience of a medical problem does not mean that you now know everything there is about a particular medical condition.

Your experience is particular to you.

In order for a cruciate ligament to be successful you need to have the right surgeon,

Be very fit and flexible,not overweight, young,pre op prepared to put in a lot of intense rehab post op and so far Ola seems to have fulfilled all those criteria.

She came back, did some amazing dances on SCD the year after her operation on television and you are telling me she can't have done because you couldn't have done. I prefer to beleive the evidence of my own eyes.

I am sorry your operation was not as successful but you really are talking rubbish and I am out, you have no idea what you are on about.
Oh dear not what I said at all and I can assure you I do know fully, been through it pal and no way would it have been as easy for her performing after the op as before the accident. Doesn't surprise me one iota at 34 she has looked into other ways of making a living.

As it goes my repairs were pretty good and you would be pretty stupid not to follow the rehab prescribed or you really would suffer down the line.
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Old 17-11-2016, 12:38
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I am sure someone has pointed out before but surely, from being a pro (ie just above a tool to showcase a celebrity) to a proper celebrity (even a Z celebrity) is no a great fall but rather a step up.
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Old 17-11-2016, 12:41
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I consider that enterprising, Liza

Neither of them are nonentities. They have a talent and I wish them both luck

You may have meant this sarcastically, but it is basically true.
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No, there was no sarcasm intended ......I don't, generally, wish anybody luck, with sarcasm

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Old 17-11-2016, 12:43
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Oh dear not what I said at all and I can assure you I do know fully, been through it pal and no way would it have been as easy for her performing after the op as before the accident. Doesn't surprise me one iota at 34 she has looked into other ways of making a living.

As it goes my repairs were pretty good and you would be pretty stupid not to follow the rehab prescribed or you really would suffer down the line.

I most certainly am not your pal. Nor ever would be.

I quite like some people who actually bother to read what I wrote.

ETA

( no not what I wrote, that seems wrong ,

That which I have written seems very clunky,

What I have written


Are any right ?

Some grammar pedant help please , I have tied myself in knots here )
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Old 17-11-2016, 13:17
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Good luck to them both. They are now probably earning more than Strictly ever paid them and are putting in the work now whilst they can get it.

They'll probably end up with a successful dance studio with James being the toughie and Ola the sweet one - and a good pension pot.
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Old 17-11-2016, 14:07
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I most certainly am not your pal. Nor ever would be.

I quite like some people who actually bother to read what I wrote.

ETA

( no not what I wrote, that seems wrong ,

That which I have written seems very clunky,

What I have written


Are any right ?

Some grammar pedant help please , I have tied myself in knots here )
It wasn't a form of endearment for sure. About the knee like the other one you wrote a load of *****.
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Old 17-11-2016, 14:37
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WOW another bitchy thread. WTF is up with ds and all the hatred? Are these all kid threads??

Olas in the jungle on another show with plenty of nice other celebs for company living her life, she does right !!.

I don't mind the Jordans their making a living whilst many sit on their arses living off benefits.

Say what you will but they are great dancers ! they are also human beings who have opinions, Do you know them personally ?

Id love the jungle experience, would i sell my own granny ? Errr not on your life so why judge all those in there??? let me guess it was a joke aaaaawwwww.

Oh well Carol Vorderman Adam Thomas Larry Lamb will no doubt not give a crap about you for calling them non entities as they have a life beyond a keyboard.
Excellent post .
Of course James is not the Brad Pitt of dancing , but he's bloody good and his commentary during the dances (on twitter) are spot on in my opinion .
They both work and presumably pay their bills , but maybe some people might prefer them to just do a Kerry Katona and declare bankruptcy owing people hundreds of thousands . Their detractors could then work themselves into an orgasmic frenzy berating them .
They still dance, they teach (well he does) and they do displays at events , but they are human, getting older and seeking new ways to support themselves and save for the future . They have good bodies and it's up to them how they use them to earn a crust .
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Old 17-11-2016, 14:46
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Excellent post .
Of course James is not the Brad Pitt of dancing , but he's bloody good and his commentary during the dances (on twitter) are spot on in my opinion .
They both work and presumably pay their bills , but maybe some people might prefer them to just do a Kerry Katona and declare bankruptcy owing people hundreds of thousands . Their detractors could then work themselves into an orgasmic frenzy berating them .
They still dance, they teach (well he does) and they do displays at events , but they are human, getting older and seeking new ways to support themselves and save for the future . They have good bodies and it's up to them how they use them to earn a crust .
I really enjoy James' Strictly commentary - and his views often align with my own. He may often be a bit brash and pompous, but he's certainly not all bad.
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Old 17-11-2016, 14:58
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I really enjoy James' Strictly commentary - and his views often align with my own. He may often be a bit brash and pompous, but he's certainly not all bad.
The red button commentary he did in series five and the one time he did the mid-week training reports he was actually really good - funny and insightful. I think it's a great pity that he burnt his copybook and him and Ola fell out with Kevin and Karen Clifton because if he hadn't he'd actually have made a great SCD judge IMO. Lets face being acerbic and pompous on occasion hasn't hurt Craig.
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Old 17-11-2016, 15:18
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I really enjoy James' Strictly commentary - and his views often align with my own. He may often be a bit brash and pompous, but he's certainly not all bad.
The sniping earlier on in this series was a bit annoying, but I've looked at his comments on Twitter for the last two weeks and in my view his comments have been spot on.
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Old 17-11-2016, 15:21
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Another one here who rather likes James. You need a pinch of Northwich's finest export sometimes but he's an invigorating factor and I can't dislike him, as much as it's possible to be irked by his occasionally stupid tweets
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Old 17-11-2016, 16:00
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The red button commentary he did in series five and the one time he did the mid-week training reports he was actually really good - funny and insightful. I think it's a great pity that he burnt his copybook and him and Ola fell out with Kevin and Karen Clifton because if he hadn't he'd actually have made a great SCD judge IMO. Lets face being acerbic and pompous on occasion hasn't hurt Craig.
He would be a good judge . I never thought of that . He's forthright and has the experience .
Such a pity he pissed on the producers' parade . Unintended alliteration there .
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Old 17-11-2016, 16:10
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Excellent post .
Of course James is not the Brad Pitt of dancing , but he's bloody good and his commentary during the dances (on twitter) are spot on in my opinion .
They both work and presumably pay their bills , but maybe some people might prefer them to just do a Kerry Katona and declare bankruptcy owing people hundreds of thousands . Their detractors could then work themselves into an orgasmic frenzy berating them .
They still dance, they teach (well he does) and they do displays at events , but they are human, getting older and seeking new ways to support themselves and save for the future . They have good bodies and it's up to them how they use them to earn a crust .
James' tweets are spot on? Like saying Ore had previous dancing experience #FACT? And so many other times he gets it wrong or lets his bias speak for him. He can dance, she can dance, they dance well but nice people, intelligent people. Not that I've seen. It's as well they have these opportunities to make some money while they can.

BIB I think I have only ever seen you doing that about contestants tbf.
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Old 17-11-2016, 16:11
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The red button commentary he did in series five and the one time he did the mid-week training reports he was actually really good - funny and insightful. I think it's a great pity that he burnt his copybook and him and Ola fell out with Kevin and Karen Clifton because if he hadn't he'd actually have made a great SCD judge IMO. Lets face being acerbic and pompous on occasion hasn't hurt Craig.
No he is too petty and if Craig is there still then one panto villain is enough.
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Old 17-11-2016, 16:46
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James' tweets are spot on? Like saying Ore had previous dancing experience #FACT? And so many other times he gets it wrong or lets his bias speak for him. He can dance, she can dance, they dance well but nice people, intelligent people. Not that I've seen. It's as well they have these opportunities to make some money while they can.

BIB I think I have only ever seen you doing that about contestants tbf.
Oh dear , you are still hurting that anasta got binned . James had her nailed from the get-go . He said she should have gone far earlier than she did and he was yet again spot on because she should have .
His assertion that Ore had dance training was just an opinion, but as regards dance content , which is what judging is about, he is spot on and he'd make a great judge .
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Old 17-11-2016, 16:57
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James' tweets are spot on? Like saying Ore had previous dancing experience #FACT? And so many other times he gets it wrong or lets his bias speak for him. He can dance, she can dance, they dance well but nice people, intelligent people. Not that I've seen. It's as well they have these opportunities to make some money while they can.

BIB I think I have only ever seen you doing that about contestants tbf.
He occasionally speaks pure rubbish! For the most part he's insightful but he has blindspots where old feeling or prejudice show. Reading James' Tweets Can Damage Your Health. But he's also funny and generally fair...

Is it weird to like James and the Cliftons? I like the whole bunch and don't care if there's ill will between them. If there is (just repeating that bit )
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Old 17-11-2016, 17:01
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Oh dear , you are still hurting that anasta got binned . James had her nailed from the get-go . He said she should have gone far earlier than she did and he was yet again spot on because she should have .
His assertion that Ore had dance training was just an opinion, but as regards dance content , which is what judging is about, he is spot on and he'd make a great judge .

Really? I thought it was a #FACT.
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Old 17-11-2016, 17:11
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Really? I thought it was a #FACT.
It is - direct from the pages of 'Jimmy's Big Book of Facts' conceived and written by Jimmy Jordan, aided and abetted by the noises in his head.

I've always liked James and still do, in a grudging sort of way.
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Old 17-11-2016, 17:14
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It is - direct from the pages of 'Jimmy's Big Book of Facts' conceived and written by Jimmy Jordan, aided and abetted by the noises in his head.

I've always liked James and still do, in a grudging sort of way.
When Shostakovich tilted his head he heard tunes. Shrapnel.
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Old 17-11-2016, 17:28
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When Shostakovich tilted his head he heard tunes. Shrapnel.
Heavy metal?
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Old 17-11-2016, 17:32
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I most certainly am not your pal. Nor ever would be.

I quite like some people who actually bother to read what I wrote.

ETA

( no not what I wrote, that seems wrong ,

That which I have written seems very clunky,

What I have written


Are any right ?

Some grammar pedant help please , I have tied myself in knots here )
i wouldn't worry about the grammar
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