6 weeks left of 4 episode a week, to me that is enough build-up.

If it started any earlier people would be saying it's all dragged out and to hurry it up!

I personally feel they have had so many big SL over the years it's nice that they aren't taking up too much of my screen!

I am sure afterwards it all still be all about them and the Mitchell's the fight between Jack and Phil of who has control of the children because Phil will say "Amy and Matthew are Mitchell's and should grow up with Mitchell's"

Will be interesting to see if Matthews dad turns up to take him.

Good post

I'm sure that will go down a treat with Sharon!

I can't wait to see the back of Shouty Face. 9 years and she still hasn't figured out how to act. Not to mention she's spent those 9 years repeating the same crap storyline on a loop.

I'm indifferent to Ronnie. Hopefully she redeems herself by holding Shouty Face's head under the water.

I think this storyline with Jack, Ronnie and Roxy over Amy IS the build up to their exits. It's obvious that Roxy is becoming more and more resentful over the control Ronnie and Jack have over Amy's life and I have a feeling it's going to develop even more over the next few weeks especially when Roxy finds out they're moving away.

However they don't have to be in lots of episodes. If you look at Dennis Rickman who was a reasonably big/popular character and also died on New Years Eve he was only in a handful of episodes in November and in December he was only in 2 episodes in the whole month before his final week. They literally built up his exit over about 4 episodes in the last week of December but before that there was literally nothing so it's not undoable or unheard of!

God by heck I'm gonna miss your brilliant succinct no nonsense posts IF the forums eventually close in the coming years as heavily rumored but denied with the use of the phrase "no current plans to close the forums"

You've been an absolute delight and one of the underappreciated stars of the DS soap forums!

And yes I agree with you I'm eager to see the back of R and R too! 😁

I think the EP has shown real balls grasping the nettle.

It will be interesting to see the aftermath of the storyline. I wouldn't mind a little twist in how they leave though, both dying by drowning in a swimming pool is a bit of an anti climax for two characters that have had quite a dramatic time in the show. Also, they almost downed on NYD a few years back. I would rather they had an exit that would be remembered for being dramatic.

I hope Carl's little brother and mum come back with a vengeance and kill Ronnie on the wedding day. That would be epic

Maybe before they kill her, Ronnie could point them to the scrapyard where Carl's poor body was crushed into a pancake.

But what are they being replaced with? We have no news of any castings or frankly decent storylines coming up.
Is Sam Mitchell going to make a grand return to fill the Mitchell void?? (Kim Medcalf that is )

Thanks Hilda. The forums are closing?

It's been announced digital spy is downsizing and they've denied there's any CURRENT plans to close the forum's but lots of people especially when they look at the drop of in visitors to DS feel it's only a matter of time and the word current is an important cavet

There's a locked soap forum thread on it a few pages back as well as a still running one on general discussion and broadcasting forums.

Take a peek ☺👍

Oh and your welcome!

Got to know quite a few good souls and personalities whilst on here as well as a few undesirables and bizarre zealots! 😁 😉

Could the drop in visitors to the site have anything to do with the fact its now garbage compared to what it once was? (the main site, not the forums)
Its turned into some shitty clickbait site with completely pointless and poorly written articles. Not to mention the layout is bloody godawful compared to a year or so ago.
I will say how i feel

They can close the forum down all they want, but they can't close down T.K Mazin - I AM INVIIIIINCIBLE!!!! I AM INVIIIIINCIBLE!!! Ya hear me?!

Sorry guys, having a Phil Mitchell moment here.

I'm not sure why people seem to think they'd be any fight re the kids. Amy lives with Jack now as it is. If Roxy dies, Phil isn't going to take Amy from him or he would have before. As for Matthew; Charlie is on the birth certificate. Jack has zero claim. The only storyline would be Jack giving him up which would last 1 episode or so.

As for the above; that is fine in normal circumstances and you are not a fan. But if it was a character you liked there is no way you'd be saying appropriate build up time etc...

The EP has gone on record as stating that an amazing storyline opportunity was offered to R&R as an exit. Come on...are we seeing any amazing storyline. You go on record as citing these things you need to deliver or your audience loses faith. It has happened many times before. It would be different if we were promised a shock exit/ they simply played on their deaths. But he said it would be an amazing storyline and quite frankly I'm not seeing that right now!

Poor carl? He was a horrible, nasty individual. I don't agree with what Ronnie did but she did believe that he was going to rape her. It was hardly poor innocent Carl like Fatboy. But even with Fatboy; she did at least try to stop what she thought was Vincent dying (ie. backed out). It was Vincent's mum act which was evil and will never be addressed now, so I'm not sure the fatboy stuff will be either. Otherwise why not kick off a storyline a few weeks back just before Claudette left?

I was referring to his crushed body, not his character, I never doubted he was a nasty individual . I don't think Carl's body deserved that sort of treatment though, do you? It's one thing to kill an assailant in self-defence, but then to go to such extreme lengths to erase all trace of their body shows us the psychopath that lurks within Ronnie. But who can resent Ronnie for wanting to be thorough, eh?

No way can you justify Ronnie's role in Fatboy's death, but good try, pal. It doesn't matter if Ronnie tried backing out of killing Vincent - the point is, Fatboy died.
Yes, Claudette manipulated the situation to her advantage and sent Fatboy to his death. But Ronnie ultimately set the whole thing in motion in the first place by arranging for Vincent to get killed and have his body crushed just like she did to Carl, which forced Claudette to do what she did to Fatboy.
Ronnie went out with an intention to kill someone and set the course of events in play - I would argue that is just as evil as Claudette's actions so let's not pretend otherwise. In the end, it was an unintended victim who paid the price for Ronnie's murderous plans. Fatboy's blood is very much on Ronnie's hands too. In the eyes of the law, I believe Ronnie will be at fault, not Claudette, because she arranged for the killing.

So, what is your justification this time for Ronnie trying to kill Vincent? From what I understand, he posed no physical or immediate danger to Ronnie like Carl did, who you said was going to rape Ronnie. She was just trying to cover up her crimes as all Mitchells do by getting rid of Vincent.

So in the end, Ronnie isn't much better than Carl. She is an evil, conniving looney toon who deserves some comeuppance and I for one can't wait to see her finally get it .

Look it was just my opinion, I have watched EE from the start and every single episode so sorry I am a fan, however because I have watched so many episodes you get used to the same type of scenes / conversations and just get an idea what wi be said or happen.

Yes your right, Jack is the father of Amy, however knowing EE like I do and soaps in general it wouldn't surprise me Phil doing the whole "Mitchell" speech.

Also,again IMO I hate SL dragged out for too long, 6 weeks for me is enough!

And that is fair enough. You clearly aren't a fan and tbh from what I'm seeing at the moment and what I've read there is no point watching. The show is dull as anything and I like proper build ups and long, thought about storylines. It is why the only storyline I like is Lee's and not really really enough to tune in properly. But Phil can do a Mitchell speech but if they can't be bothered addressing the fatboy issue prior to Claudettes departure, can't be bothered in a proper storyline in what was promised an amazing storyline exit; then why would they bother with some Phil Mitchell speak when he hasn't got a leg to stand on. Jack already has custody of Amy so things will stay the same for her when Roxy goes. The only question mark would be matthew and tbh I think that is pretty cut and dry too. If Charlie wants him; he'll go back to him amidst and few angsty goodbyes from Jack. And if Charlie doesn't want him; he'll stay with Jack. I doubt there is going to be any major aftermath story though. If he can't be bothered with a big build; why does anybody think they'll be some big aftermath. Ronnie/Roxy's family is off screen so it'll just be grief by Jack and the Mitchells. And quite honestly we've seen it all before. From what I'm seeing, we are heading for some mass disappointment exit akin to Pat's years ago from a cocky EP believing he is serving justice or something.

I was sad enough to watch EE best Exits on W the other week, and while watching it John Yorke made a point that characters that do wrong need some sort of comeuppance.

It's why the likes of Andy Hunter, Cindy Beale, Steve Owen, Dennis Rickman and Johnny Allen all had a demise.

Ronnie has done worse than some of those other characters. Murdering Carl and Fatboy and going without punishment is poor stuff. The show has to have some morals. How can one route for a character who can be so cold and dangerous? Sam Womack hasn't put in a decent performance in ages and her conduct on social media doesn't scream 'professionalism'.

Roxy on the other hand hasn't done anything wrong, and Rita Simons is a good actor with good material. So it would be a shame to kill the character off. She has a future on the show.

I couldn't disagree more. Rita Simons is a terrible actress no matter the material. Roxy is a z-list character who hardly ever appears. I can't imagine any of that changing if it hasn't in 9 years.

Ronnie has run her course for sure and Womack appears to have given up on trying to inject any life into the character but at least she made an impact in her time. Roxy is just Ronnie's sister. That's all there is to her.

I've always thought the best exit for R&R would be one of them flipping and accidentally killing the other in a fit of rage. Their relationship is so unhealthy and weird; it would bring that repetitive scenario to a very definitive end.

My theory is this:

The Sisters will be sitting on that bridge/rooftop thing that has been pictured, they'll be drunk and reminiscing about times gone by "Remember when you nicked that baby?" etc etc.......Then we'll see a POV shot of somebody creeping up behind them, the mysterious bastard will push them over the edge killing them.

We'll find out around Easter 2017 whodunnit.

Roxy has been let down by bad writing.

They could have explored her drug addictions more, they could have explored her being a mom to her Eastern European step-daughter who was being bullied, they could have given her a club (considering they had one in Ibiza), they could have had her kept her wealth she inherited after Archie gave her everything etc.

Ultimately she just kept coming back to stealing Ronnie's partners. Once Ronnie had gone, Roxy could've become the better of the sisters. The hard-on for the character of Ronnie meant Rita Simons was always playing second fiddle to Womack, despite putting in better performances, in my opinion.

For 9 years?