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Old 17-11-2016, 22:11
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Don't get the logic in allowing Grainne and Courtney back to the house when they sold absolutely zilch?
Well that's not strictly true - the sales never materialised because the customers failed credit checks. Whilst I agree it means £0.00, it wasn't necessarily their fault.

They performed strong selecting products and asking the correct questions, and the speedboat company picked them over the other team because of this. On the day, the only real fault Claude had was that they spent a part of the morning doing their reading instead of selling - which isn't a bad thing imo.

But the other 4... shocking on every level. I feel sorry for Alana because she is capable but selling on a stall is hard and a specific talent - which is why she and Dillon survived imo because they have shown their strengths at selling and PMing in other tasks.

Karthik went because he was terrible and Samuel went for not being a team player - he didnt push to be on the high end team because it was a ready made excuse for why they could have failed the task. Instead he should have been fighting for the team from the start. Then he only sold £70 worth of stock despite claiming to do sales for a living.
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Old 17-11-2016, 22:15
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Props to the guy on the panel that said he didn't deserve to get fired. Good to see someone who isn't a complete yes man on the panel once in a while.
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Old 17-11-2016, 22:16
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Picture of Karthik on lappy as a gift for him He'd do well on the telly, as they need personalities
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Old 17-11-2016, 22:21
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Samuel Fired! and think it's the right decision.

Feel that LS took pity on Alana
Alana's bright. She summed up the reasons why Karthik and Samuel went - she agreed with Claude on both of them wthout hearing him - and Sugar repeated her arguments.The people who can put words into Sugar's mouth tend to stay a long time.
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Old 17-11-2016, 22:22
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Well that's not strictly true - the sales never materialised because the customers failed credit checks. Whilst I agree it means £0.00, it wasn't necessarily their fault.

They performed strong selecting products and asking the correct questions, and the speedboat company picked them over the other team because of this. On the day, the only real fault Claude had was that they spent a part of the morning doing their reading instead of selling - which isn't a bad thing imo.

But the other 4... shocking on every level. I feel sorry for Alana because she is capable but selling on a stall is hard and a specific talent - which is why she and Dillon survived imo because they have shown their strengths at selling and PMing in other tasks.

Karthik went because he was terrible and Samuel went for not being a team player - he didnt push to be on the high end team because it was a ready made excuse for why they could have failed the task. Instead he should have been fighting for the team from the start. Then he only sold £70 worth of stock despite claiming to do sales for a living.
But feeling sorry for a Candidate doesn't do them any favours in the long run, and Alana was a weak link as was Dillon.
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Old 17-11-2016, 22:25
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Well seeing as I have no input in LS's decisions, I'd does them no harm lol. Selling on a market stall is a specific talent. They have proved themselves previously to be capable, but Samuel sells for a living and did shockingly bad - so what was left for him to demonstrate?
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Old 17-11-2016, 22:26
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Has Yeswoman Karren ever disagreed with 'Alan'?
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Old 17-11-2016, 22:27
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The man at the far end of the panel is spot on that Sugar got it wrong. Brady and the other guy are lap dogs that agree with everything Sugar says and does and would lie like a rug for Sugar.
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Old 17-11-2016, 22:28
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Alana's bright. She summed up the reasons why Karthik and Samuel went - she agreed with Claude on both of them wthout hearing him - and Sugar repeated her arguments.The people who can put words into Sugar's mouth tend to stay a long time.
But Alana doesn't come over as bright, and wasn't in the Boardroom, as she cowered under pressure, when saying nothing was the better option. She's only a game player at present and not employed by LS.

Samuel explained himself a lot better than the show did.
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Old 17-11-2016, 22:30
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That's rotten an invisible bike! Gets a real gift instead, and he did come over well in YF
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Old 17-11-2016, 22:31
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I was surprised that no jet skis were sold, there was clearly strong interest from potential purchasers, one who was thinking about buying multiples. The fact that LS focused on the small priced sales team suggests it wasn't the fault of Grainne and Courtney that none sold. They passed the customer to the dealer for more information - and he still didn't buy. I thought Grainne and Courtney had the right approach, despite not being experienced at selling big ticket items so I can't really say I think either should have been fired. Frankly I'm surprised anyone sold anything given how awful the weather was.
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Old 17-11-2016, 22:31
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Another fun day out for Karren next week.
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Old 17-11-2016, 22:38
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Samuel should have been saved on his performance in previous tasks
LOL, what performance?
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Old 17-11-2016, 22:40
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Well seeing as I have no input in LS's decisions, I'd does them no harm lol. Selling on a market stall is a specific talent. They have proved themselves previously to be capable, but Samuel sells for a living and did shockingly bad - so what was left for him to demonstrate?
As he said if the others are doing something then he doesn't interfere, which is quite sensible.

As for talent, selling in a shop is same as selling on a market stall. The real talent is how to deal with customers, so that they don't walk away.
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Old 17-11-2016, 22:40
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But Alana doesn't come over as bright, and wasn't in the Boardroom, as she cowered under pressure, when saying nothing was the better option. She's only a game player at present and not employed by LS.

Samuel explained himself a lot better than the show did.
She does if you listen to her noting whats going wrong, and when her PM makes a dumb decision. And she shows she understands whats gone wrong in the boardroom - she gets it.

Samuel was a loose cannon and truly not very bright - the Waterloo mime act is one of the stupidest ideas ever, and was then terribly executed too.

Karthik had lots of enthusiasm, but was almost useless - indecisive as a PM, disruptive as a team member, silly arguments for decisions this week, ridiculous buying technique last week

Dillon seems very limited to what he does, and no more. There's not much else there
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Old 17-11-2016, 22:44
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Karren fancies Karthik
Surely not! I was stunned enough that any woman managed to brace herself long enough to conceive a child with him! She must have brought her industrial sized ear plugs and forgot to pack the secret diaphragm
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Old 17-11-2016, 22:47
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I was surprised that no jet skis were sold, there was clearly strong interest from potential purchasers, one who was thinking about buying multiples. The fact that LS focused on the small priced sales team suggests it wasn't the fault of Grainne and Courtney that none sold. They passed the customer to the dealer for more information - and he still didn't buy. I thought Grainne and Courtney had the right approach, despite not being experienced at selling big ticket items so I can't really say I think either should have been fired. Frankly I'm surprised anyone sold anything given how awful the weather was.
Well, there you are, had the day been sunny and cheerful, customer would have bought. Rain was the downfall in more ways than one. But customers would have bought the smaller items had they found what they wanted.
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Old 17-11-2016, 22:50
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Surely not! I was stunned enough that any woman managed to brace herself long enough to conceive a child with him! She must have brought her industrial sized ear plugs and forgot to pack the secret diaphragm
Did you not see her smiling at him, and her voice softened, was very telling. Karren on YF was more pleasant than on the Main show.
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Old 17-11-2016, 22:55
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Seems the Big K is thinking of a career change (if you believe The Radio Times )

" “I’ve got like fan clubs on facebook, fan pages and Instagram. Like, Wow!” Karthik told RadioTimes.com. “This has taken off beyond my wildest dreams. So much so, that I’m actually considering a possible career in the media after this. "

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Old 17-11-2016, 22:57
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What a massive loss .

Karthic being fired so brutally
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Old 17-11-2016, 23:03
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She does if you listen to her noting whats going wrong, and when her PM makes a dumb decision. And she shows she understands whats gone wrong in the boardroom - she gets it.

Samuel was a loose cannon and truly not very bright - the Waterloo mime act is one of the stupidest ideas ever, and was then terribly executed too.

Karthik had lots of enthusiasm, but was almost useless - indecisive as a PM, disruptive as a team member, silly arguments for decisions this week, ridiculous buying technique last week

Dillon seems very limited to what he does, and no more. There's not much else there
But she doesn't show same acumen in the Boardroom. Back talking to LS is not a good idea.
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Old 17-11-2016, 23:12
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What a massive loss .

Karthic being fired so brutally
It was brutal wasn't it, and I'll miss him as he was only one with personality, and we're left with dullards.
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Old 17-11-2016, 23:30
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Good episode that ....but alas the only character in this years crop is no more
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Old 17-11-2016, 23:38
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and btw, how much of an annoying **** is Russell Kane?......they sure don't make comedian guests like they used to...
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Old 17-11-2016, 23:51
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Surprised to see that the guests on You're Fired reckoned Samuel had a chance of being in the final? He was one of the worst candidates. I didn't notice he was in the process until week 3.
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