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Old 17-11-2016, 21:54
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The sales of the low priced items were pointless, winning or losing the task came down to who sold the more high ticket items

How were neither of them called back into the boardroom?
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Old 17-11-2016, 22:03
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Their business plans must be better.
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Old 17-11-2016, 22:05
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I wanted Grainne fired, fed up of her RBF on my screen
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Old 17-11-2016, 22:06
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Probably because they've been better over the course of the series.
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Old 17-11-2016, 22:09
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Probably because they've been better over the course of the series.
No one has really been excellent

Karthik is the only one I remember pulling off a task winning performance (selling the gillets on the cycling task)
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Old 17-11-2016, 22:38
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I agree.
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Old 17-11-2016, 22:46
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I agree too.
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Old 17-11-2016, 23:04
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The sales of the low priced items were pointless, winning or losing the task came down to who sold the more high ticket items

How were neither of them called back into the boardroom?

They basically did sell, Claude even applauded them for it, only the credit check bounced (nice for that guy, going on nationale television with that). If it hadn't, they would have won them the task.
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Old 17-11-2016, 23:12
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The sales of the low priced items were pointless, winning or losing the task came down to who sold the more high ticket items

How were neither of them called back into the boardroom?
Largely accidental who sells the big items. Depends who turns up where. They were on course to sell twice as much - we don't know why it didn't happen. The responsibility shifted to the dealer , or the credit check. They were criticised for spending too long on learning the detail, but the other team lost orders on not knowing the detail.

The other subteam of 4 had as many chances to sell as the other team - but had the wrong products - and didn't sell as much - so blame could be attached.

Courtney isn't much use, but had won, poorly, as PM. It would be difficult to send him home without sending Grainne too. Grainne is a strong candidate who just hasn't performed at full capacity yet - as is Trishna - and there's too few of those to send one home. . Alana has been saying smart things for weeks, and had won as PM. Karthik is pretty useless, Samuel just isn't vey bright, and won as PM with a dismal performance , and Dillon looks very limited . There were 3 people who had no reason to stay, so 2 went.
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Old 17-11-2016, 23:14
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Had to laugh when Courtney said that so far he always had been in the winning team.

He's one of the weakest candidates in my opinion, so he must have a brilliant business plan.
I don't mind Grainne.

The only one I really want to leave now is Sofia
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Old 17-11-2016, 23:23
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They basically did sell, Claude even applauded them for it, only the credit check bounced (nice for that guy, going on nationale television with that). If it hadn't, they would have won them the task.
That was the stupid part of the task. They sold yet lost.
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Old 17-11-2016, 23:57
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Had to laugh when Courtney said that so far he always had been in the winning team.

He's one of the weakest candidates in my opinion, so he must have a brilliant business plan.
There is a more mundane reason for his not being fired. Courtney has never been brought back into the final boardroom. Indeed, as a member of Titans, he has only lost one task (or two if you count the no-score draw in the advertising jeans task). That is why Courtney is still in the process -- nothing to do with his business plan.
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Old 18-11-2016, 00:00
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Those two will make Final Five, guaranteed.

Resting bitch face or not, Grainne is the only candidate this year who has any sort of semblance of professionalism about her.

Courtney however has been totally useless thus far and should count himself lucky he's rarely on the losing team.
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Old 18-11-2016, 00:55
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Courtney isn't much use, but had won, poorly, as PM. It would be difficult to send him home without sending Grainne too. Grainne is a strong candidate who just hasn't performed at full capacity yet - as is Trishna - and there's too few of those to send one home. . Alana has been saying smart things for weeks, and had won as PM. Karthik is pretty useless, Samuel just isn't vey bright, and won as PM with a dismal performance , and Dillon looks very limited . There were 3 people who had no reason to stay, so 2 went.
If Courtney's win as PM (despite performing poorly) saved him then why wasn't that enough for Samuel?

I like Alana and wouldn't blame her for the failure of this task but it was pretty amazing how she turned on Samuel once in the boardroom. It was as if Sameul was supposed to have sold everything himself because he's a salesman. End of the day, he worked with what they had and he sold the most out of all them so it was pretty poor to undermine him for that. Dillon is probably the only fair person (not that this will get him far) because he could tell Samuel wasn't to blame and he wasn't going to throw him under the bus just to save himself.

Upon reflection I'd have fired one of Grainne/Courtney and Karthik. If we can't fire that pair because the credit checks let them down, then Dillon would join Karthik.
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Old 18-11-2016, 01:00
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If Courtney's win as PM (despite performing poorly) saved him then why wasn't that enough for Samuel?

I like Alana and wouldn't blame her for the failure of this task but it was pretty amazing how she turned on Samuel once in the boardroom. It was as if Sameul was supposed to have sold everything himself because he's a salesman. End of the day, he worked with what they had and he sold the most out of all them so it was pretty poor to undermine him for that. Dillon is probably the only fair person (not that this will get him far) because he could tell Samuel wasn't to blame and he wasn't going to throw him under the bus just to save himself.

Upon reflection I'd have fired one of Grainne/Courtney and Karthik. If we can't fire that pair because the credit checks let them down, then Dillon would join Karthik.
Because Courtney actually was a PM in practice rather than just on paper...
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Old 18-11-2016, 01:06
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Because Courtney actually was a PM in practice rather than just on paper...
What? Samuel might have done a poor job but he was definitely Project Manager and made decisions (bad ones and not listening to people much) but still he wasn't just PM on paper. You must have him confused with JD
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Old 18-11-2016, 01:38
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I disagree. Courtney and Grainne did all the necessary preparation but the sales just didn't happen (and it was out of their control)

You just couldn't assume that had they not spent too much time preparing they would have sold one jetski.
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Old 18-11-2016, 03:06
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If they had sold what they sold, but which they didn't because of the failed credit check, would they have made over £40,000 and won the task?
Or would they have still lost the task anyway?

Does anybody know?
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Old 18-11-2016, 07:12
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I disagree. Courtney and Grainne did all the necessary preparation but the sales just didn't happen (and it was out of their control)

You just couldn't assume that had they not spent too much time preparing they would have sold one jetski.
Samuel totally deserved the boot in my view. The man refused to do anything he was asked and went his own way.

As a business partner he'd have been a nightmare.
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Old 18-11-2016, 07:13
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If they had sold what they sold, but which they didn't because of the failed credit check, would they have made over £40,000 and won the task?
Or would they have still lost the task anyway?

Does anybody know?
They originally pitched them at £16K for 1 but had offered the guy a discount to make it 14.5k if he bought 3 or 4 I think. Even at that price they would've destroyed the other team and won. Imo the editing was really bad. I think we should've seen the conclusion of the customer's discussions with the dealership. What was the final discount and commercial warranty? It's all very vague and I'm not convinced the reason the deal fell is because of a failed credit check.
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Old 18-11-2016, 07:24
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They originally pitched them at £16K for 1 but had offered the guy a discount to make it 14.5k if he bought 3 or 4 I think. Even at that price they would've destroyed the other team and won. Imo the editing was really bad. I think we should've seen the conclusion of the customer's discussions with the dealership. What was the final discount and commercial warranty? It's all very vague and I'm not convinced the reason the deal fell is because of a failed credit check.
I have a feeling the buyer didn't finish his discussion with the dealer with agreeing to the sale and just moved on, maybe saying he'd think about it. But if that had been revealed earlier it would have taken the surprise out of the boardroom reveal as it was then likely the other team won. Claude's wording was also vague ... something like the sales didn't go further. Although they were right referring the buyer to the dealer re his questions maybe one of them should have also stayed in the discussion to close the deal at the end.
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Old 18-11-2016, 07:26
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They originally pitched them at £16K for 1 but had offered the guy a discount to make it 14.5k if he bought 3 or 4 I think. Even at that price they would've destroyed the other team and won. Imo the editing was really bad. I think we should've seen the conclusion of the customer's discussions with the dealership. What was the final discount and commercial warranty? It's all very vague and I'm not convinced the reason the deal fell is because of a failed credit check.
Failed credit check probably means the buyers changed their minds, not that the banks bounced their cheques.
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Old 18-11-2016, 07:44
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That was the stupid part of the task. They sold yet lost.
They didn't sell as no money changed hands. Would you also count the woman who said she would buy the board and then never came back with the cash as a sale?
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Old 18-11-2016, 07:56
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Also the client thing was a bit random and not really fair. How do we know some of the clients weren't sure things and had already decided to buy and some were just vague enquiries who were unlikely to buy. It would have been fairer to start with a blank slate and say they all had to sell to passers by ... were the couple ( the man who said it was like a hot tub ) a pre organised lead or passers by? They seemed like passers by in which case it was a good sale.
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Old 18-11-2016, 07:58
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Failed credit check probably means the buyers changed their minds, not that the banks bounced their cheques.
No, a failed credit check means that the company in question did not have the cash flow required to do the sale (basically, a dodgy businesspartner).

I should know, as I work with a credit check company for the dealings at my workplace.

And if otherwise, don't call it a credit check.
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