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Old 20-12-2016, 00:44
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Hmmm, I don't think Larry was ever real except as a friendship. Louis likes being in long term relationships and Harry, going on what journos have said, likes to bat as far out of his league as he can. He tried chatting up Rosie Huntingdon W when her bf Jason Stratham was in the room. He was with Taylor Swift for a few months aged 18 and got a best selling album written about him. He's had flings with Kendall J and models Sara Sampaio, Georgia Fowler and Nadine Leopold. The Larrie idea that he's been faithful to Louis since he was 16 is honestly laughable.
That is a Larry quote...not my opinion...I know that Taylor Swift is either loved or hated by One Direction fans, there is a Haylor fandom too. And there are those that insisted that I Knew You Where Trouble is about Harry, when it wasn't. It was most likely about John Mayer, she wrote it before she dated Harry, but they still insist. Harry is not faithful to anyone and I do think he and Taylor did genuinely like each other, they loved each other but where too young and it was too much chaos. I doubt Harry Styles would have been upset by Style either, it is a very good, sexy, song to have based on her relationship with him. Harry seems to respect her as a musician too but he is young and appears to be a good actor, he has a big future and if he settled down, he would have to be so protective because of those demented fans.
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Old 20-12-2016, 01:18
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That is a Larry quote...not my opinion...I know that Taylor Swift is either loved or hated by One Direction fans, there is a Haylor fandom too. And there are those that insisted that I Knew You Where Trouble is about Harry, when it wasn't. It was most likely about John Mayer, she wrote it before she dated Harry, but they still insist. Harry is not faithful to anyone and I do think he and Taylor did genuinely like each other, they loved each other but where too young and it was too much chaos. I doubt Harry Styles would have been upset by Style either, it is a very good, sexy, song to have based on her relationship with him. Harry seems to respect her as a musician too but he is young and appears to be a good actor, he has a big future and if he settled down, he would have to be so protective because of those demented fans.
I definitely think Haylor was a real relationship and, from the sound of 1989, it was on and off for about 10 months. I think Harry is just playing the field in his 20s, as many men do. I'd love to see them get back together, if only for the Larrie reaction.

I'm pretty sure Harry is secretly delighted that one of the best selling albums of the 21st century is all about him, that he made that big an impact on someone like Taylor. I think the song Perfect sums up Harry's current attitude to dating - not making promises, splitting up after a few months, giving Taylor and others something to 'write...break up songs about' lol.

Ironically, Perfect was co-written by Harry and Louis and, before it came out, the Larries had high expectations for super romantic, our love is eternal type lyrics. What they got was 'Not gonna lie to you, I'm a player' lyrics.
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Old 20-12-2016, 07:53
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Oh dear, its now been confirmed that Margot has married her long term boyfriend. Poor tinhats will be so upset for Jared.
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Old 20-12-2016, 11:36
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Oh dear, its now been confirmed that Margot has married her long term boyfriend. Poor tinhats will be so upset for Jared.
Wasn't Jared well documented being a total asshole (or method actor) on the set of suicide squad?! And Margot doesn't seem the type to date big egoed asshats. Costar, yes, do promo for a movie, yes, but to date and put up with it irl, no.
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Old 20-12-2016, 12:26
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The Jared/Margot shipping is very silly - he's 18 years older than her, although you'd never guess from the way he looks in the latest Gucci Guilty perfume ad. Imagine the howls of horror on here if she'd been 18 years older. People can't even cope with the ten year gap between Cheryl and Liam Payne.
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Old 20-12-2016, 13:56
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Wasn't Jared well documented being a total asshole (or method actor) on the set of suicide squad?! And Margot doesn't seem the type to date big egoed asshats. Costar, yes, do promo for a movie, yes, but to date and put up with it irl, no.
Yes, apparently he was appalling on set, and didn't get on with anyone. I can't even remember him doing any promo for the film with Margot! That never stops the fantasists though! People who are never ever seen together outside a work situation, people who had no chemistry on or off screen, people who seem to actively dislike each other have all been shipped on the basis of doing one or two films together and pretending to be in love. That's enough to get the crazies starting rumours, abusing people online and photoshopping with abandon
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Old 20-12-2016, 14:14
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Oh dear, its now been confirmed that Margot has married her long term boyfriend. Poor tinhats will be so upset for Jared.
You see, that was not a real marriage but a planned stunt to hide Margot and Jared's super secret true love
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Old 20-12-2016, 18:48
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Do you think any of these absurd tinhatters know anyone in real life, who are either married, engaged or just simply a couple who date? Or is all their relationship expertise linked to crazies on Tumblr, Twitter, Instagram and Photoshop?
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Old 20-12-2016, 22:39
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Do you think any of these absurd tinhatters know anyone in real life, who are either married, engaged or just simply a couple who date? Or is all their relationship expertise linked to crazies on Tumblr, Twitter, Instagram and Photoshop?
Maybe they have parents that had bad marriages...
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Old 20-12-2016, 22:57
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I definitely think Haylor was a real relationship and, from the sound of 1989, it was on and off for about 10 months. I think Harry is just playing the field in his 20s, as many men do. I'd love to see them get back together, if only for the Larrie reaction.

I'm pretty sure Harry is secretly delighted that one of the best selling albums of the 21st century is all about him, that he made that big an impact on someone like Taylor. I think the song Perfect sums up Harry's current attitude to dating - not making promises, splitting up after a few months, giving Taylor and others something to 'write...break up songs about' lol.

Ironically, Perfect was co-written by Harry and Louis and, before it came out, the Larries had high expectations for super romantic, our love is eternal type lyrics. What they got was 'Not gonna lie to you, I'm a player' lyrics.

Taylor's lyrics are mainly about a special relationship that was surrounded by chaos and pressure. She was never bitter nor did she attack Harry's character. I think they really did like each other and that Harry was the best boyfriend she had but both of them became jaded. Harry got more private and Taylor stopped dating and had big self esteem issues over being slut shamed and all that was written about her. But she still seems to be attracted to womanisers and as a result seem to be happier single with her friends and family around her.

I have no interest in One Direction but I do think Harry Styles has star quality and I do like Taylor. I don't think ever of them are going to be ready to settled down for a few years, though Taylor has been establishing herself as a songwriter, who can write in different styles and have a massive hit, without even putting her name on it.

Though the Haylors that still write fan fiction about them, think that Taylor has somehow betrayed Harry and Perrie by working with Zayn. It think Zayn is meant to really be involved with Liam and the Zayn fans think that Gigi needs Zayn for publicity. Even though Gigi is an bone afide A Lister. Bat Shit crazy the lot of them...
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Old 21-12-2016, 01:22
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Taylor's lyrics are mainly about a special relationship that was surrounded by chaos and pressure. She was never bitter nor did she attack Harry's character. I think they really did like each other and that Harry was the best boyfriend she had but both of them became jaded. Harry got more private and Taylor stopped dating and had big self esteem issues over being slut shamed and all that was written about her. But she still seems to be attracted to womanisers and as a result seem to be happier single with her friends and family around her.

I have no interest in One Direction but I do think Harry Styles has star quality and I do like Taylor. I don't think ever of them are going to be ready to settled down for a few years, though Taylor has been establishing herself as a songwriter, who can write in different styles and have a massive hit, without even putting her name on it.

Though the Haylors that still write fan fiction about them, think that Taylor has somehow betrayed Harry and Perrie by working with Zayn. It think Zayn is meant to really be involved with Liam and the Zayn fans think that Gigi needs Zayn for publicity. Even though Gigi is an bone afide A Lister. Bat Shit crazy the lot of them...
The Ziams are even more bizarre than the Larries. Liam and Zayn have barely been out of long term relationships with women since 2010. At least with Larry, there is Harry who only ever went public with Taylor and that was four years ago now. But to believe in Ziam you have to say that Perrie, Gigi, Danielle Peazer, Sophia Smith and Cheryl were ALL fake relationships.

I quite like the Taylor/Zayn collab, better than the Louis song or the Niall song. I hope Harry comes up with a decent first album and keeps it rocky and indie, with no collabs or rappers.

Liam's album is bound to be riddled with soppy lyrics about Cheryl and her life changing impact, maybe even stuff about the baby. Ziams have a rough year ahead lol
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Old 21-12-2016, 10:46
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Anything that Harry releases, musically, whether self-penned or written for him, is bound to be interpreted as secret love songs dedicated to his beloved husband. In 50 years time, there will still be some elderly larries insisting to their bemused grandchildren LARRY IS REAL

I'm looking forward to Harry's solo work. I hope he stays away from dad rock though.
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Old 21-12-2016, 13:09
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Anything that Harry releases, musically, whether self-penned or written for him, is bound to be interpreted as secret love songs dedicated to his beloved husband. In 50 years time, there will still be some elderly larries insisting to their bemused grandchildren LARRY IS REAL

I'm looking forward to Harry's solo work. I hope he stays away from dad rock though.
I was going to post that presumably to have grandchildren in the first place, they would have to experience and actual real life relationship for long enough to conceive a child, but then I remembered that some of them are adults in their 40's and still live a fantasy life
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Old 21-12-2016, 22:32
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The Ziams are even more bizarre than the Larries. Liam and Zayn have barely been out of long term relationships with women since 2010. At least with Larry, there is Harry who only ever went public with Taylor and that was four years ago now. But to believe in Ziam you have to say that Perrie, Gigi, Danielle Peazer, Sophia Smith and Cheryl were ALL fake relationships.

I quite like the Taylor/Zayn collab, better than the Louis song or the Niall song. I hope Harry comes up with a decent first album and keeps it rocky and indie, with no collabs or rappers.

Liam's album is bound to be riddled with soppy lyrics about Cheryl and her life changing impact, maybe even stuff about the baby. Ziams have a rough year ahead lol

Taylor Swift doesn't release bad songs and she wrote it and worked with Jack Antonoff who she has worked with before. And Zayn benefited from the collaboration, which happened because he is with Gigi.
They always said that Zayn had a fake relationship with Perrie, so they have to say that the one with Gigi is too and that poor Zayn is being forced into a relationship with a very beautiful supermodel, with a very wealthy father and well connected mother. And forced to hang out with Gigi's A List friends, like Taylor and Karlie Kloss......
And Zayn is forced to do it because he is hiding his gayness and Simon Cowell. controls it all.. Though the Larries say that Zaim can't happen because there can only be one gay couple in the band....
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Old 22-12-2016, 03:06
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Taylor Swift doesn't release bad songs and she wrote it and worked with Jack Antonoff who she has worked with before. And Zayn benefited from the collaboration, which happened because he is with Gigi.
They always said that Zayn had a fake relationship with Perrie, so they have to say that the one with Gigi is too and that poor Zayn is being forced into a relationship with a very beautiful supermodel, with a very wealthy father and well connected mother. And forced to hang out with Gigi's A List friends, like Taylor and Karlie Kloss......
And Zayn is forced to do it because he is hiding his gayness and Simon Cowell. controls it all.. Though the Larries say that Zaim can't happen because there can only be one gay couple in the band....
Some of the Larries are Ziams too, and also ship every other potentially gay pairing they can think of. They're Kaylors and Crickies and they're obsessed with that couple from SKAM. They've also started blogging about FRATTY - Matt Terry and Freddie from the XF. Basically just obsessed with calling attractive young celebs closeted.
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Old 22-12-2016, 12:22
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Some of the Larries are Ziams too, and also ship every other potentially gay pairing they can think of. They're Kaylors and Crickies and they're obsessed with that couple from SKAM. They've also started blogging about FRATTY - Matt Terry and Freddie from the XF. Basically just obsessed with calling attractive young celebs closeted.
And these crazies are all straight females. presumably? Why do they fantasise about gay men? Or, to be more precise, why do they like to insist that so many young famous guys are secretly gay?
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Old 22-12-2016, 12:29
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And these crazies are all straight females. presumably? Why do they fantasise about gay men? Or, to be more precise, why do they like to insist that so many young famous guys are secretly gay?
My guess would be, if you're a young straiģht female it's easier to think the reason a man you lust after wouldn't be attracted to you because he's gay.

It's a less obviously aggressive version of how some young men will ask, "What are you, a lesbian?" if you turn down their advances.
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Old 22-12-2016, 13:13
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I was going to post that presumably to have grandchildren in the first place, they would have to experience and actual real life relationship for long enough to conceive a child, but then I remembered that some of them are adults in their 40's and still live a fantasy life
Yes it's the older Larries that are worrying. The teenage fans who want to believe Larry is real are going to grow out of it, once real life takes hold - university perhaps, a career, a relationship, parties, holidays etc etc.

But the middle-aged women who blog incessantly about the men aren't very well. On another forum, one woman, married with children, says she lives her life on LA time to keep an online eye on Styles and Tomlinson. She professes to have inside knowledge yet knew nothing about Johanna Deakin's terminal illness - thank goodness, because the family obviously wanted complete and absolute privacy. She stated with absolute certainty that the men would officially come out on March 25th. When that date came and went, she backtracked saying she didn't specify which year. It's all a bit sad.
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Old 22-12-2016, 17:00
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The one tinhat question that I'd love to get an answer for is this. Why are they never shipping actual gay couples ?
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Old 22-12-2016, 21:33
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The one tinhat question that I'd love to get an answer for is this. Why are they never shipping actual gay couples ?l
They like to feel as if they're supporting a cause and so choose to support those they believe to be closeted against their will rather than the openly gay.
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Old 22-12-2016, 22:15
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The one tinhat question that I'd love to get an answer for is this. Why are they never shipping actual gay couples ?
I think it's because there is no 'mystery' with openly gay couples in the public eye, and therefore there are no opportunities for fans to spend hours on end watching/analysing videos of them and coming up with conspiracy theories about what they believe is going on behind the scenes day after day. There's not much to discuss, and therefore it takes very little time to ship real life gay (or straight, for that matter) couples.

Tinhatters/stans seem to be, on the whole, people who are rather isolated in real life. And therefore they are desperately seeking things to occupy their day with, and for the sense of community and interaction which they gain from sharing and discussing their conspiracy theories with other Twitter/Tumblr users. For a lot of them, it seems to have taken over their life and give them a sense of purpose which they perhaps don't have in the real world.

The whole ''Their management is forcing them to stay in the closet'' aspect of it provides them with more justification for their conspiracy theories, because it's far harder to come up with reasons why straight couples who are apparently secretly in relationships are being forced to hide it when really there is no logical reason to.

Also, as Zarla said, it gives them a feeling of supporting a worthwhile cause and standing up for people who they believe are being mistreated. Which probably increases the self esteem of people who perhaps don't have much confidence or self worth in real life.

I do find the whole thing incredibly sad (and I don't mean sad in a 'that's pathetic' kind of way.) It's just rather sad that so many people feel so lonely and disconnected from people in real life that they have for create an irrational and conspiracy dominated online community for themselves which takes up all their time and fills the void.
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Old 22-12-2016, 23:51
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Yes it's the older Larries that are worrying. The teenage fans who want to believe Larry is real are going to grow out of it, once real life takes hold - university perhaps, a career, a relationship, parties, holidays etc etc.

But the middle-aged women who blog incessantly about the men aren't very well. On another forum, one woman, married with children, says she lives her life on LA time to keep an online eye on Styles and Tomlinson. She professes to have inside knowledge yet knew nothing about Johanna Deakin's terminal illness - thank goodness, because the family obviously wanted complete and absolute privacy. She stated with absolute certainty that the men would officially come out on March 25th. When that date came and went, she backtracked saying she didn't specify which year. It's all a bit sad.


I found that craziness with the Tom Hiddleston fans in the summer and Hiddleswifts.... or Hiddlestoners who hate Taylor and think it was a Faux Romance which of course is Taylor's idea... (Was unaware of them until they appeared on my Tumblr site) when they knew where Taylor Swift's plane was, they reported it to gossip pages and were obsessed with whether Tom and Taylor were together or not...And they like some bromance between Tom and Chris Hemsworth, which is more acceptable to some. And Zac Efron fans lost their shit at the possibility of Taylor and Zac, which was a media fantasy anyway..

I saw the threats made at the prospect of Taylor going to the Emmy's with Tom and then threats when they broke up by the people that are still writing fan fiction about Tom and Taylor having children together. And of course Tom Hiddleston is another innocent man who is just dragged alone by Taylor and trapped by her...(Her point in Blank Space..). I don't know what was going on there, but I do know that Taylor looked much happier once she was single. Maybe she got involved too fast and wasn't ready, and she doesn't want that chaos in her life.
Though some Hiddleswifts still think they will get back together or that they secretly got back together for her birthday because she has been out of sight for a while.

My life has been pretty chaotic lately and I haven’t had the time, energy or desire to write. For some reason though, this story got stuck in my head last night and remained there this morning so I thought I’d give it a go. Please note that, once again, I made up Tom’s niece’s name but I did make it the same name as I did in the story I had her in before.



Christmas Medicine – A Hiddleswift Short Story

This is his favorite time of year. When nostalgia begins to seep into his soul and his heart yearns for the familiarity and comfort of home and family. It seems to happen without fail the moment he lays eyes on the first wreath of the season and intensifies with each carol, ornament and whiff of pine. He loves how it makes him feel. Loves the warmth it provides. Loves that regardless of what has been going on in his life, the moment he is able to walk along the light draped streets of Suffolk during the Christmas season, all of his worries and pains disappear. Christmas medicine his mother once said to him.

Christmas medicine indeed.
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Old 23-12-2016, 03:38
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I'm not on Tumblr and my emotional investment in any of this is absolutely zero, but one of the few things I'm almost sure is true in showbiz is that Harry and Louis had a romantic relationship.

It was too obvious to anyone who followed X Factor and the early days of the band, they really weren't subtle with it.

It's just as clear to me that it was a romance that lasted months not years and that by the end of their stint as a boyband they didn't get along at all.
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Old 23-12-2016, 04:12
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I'm not on Tumblr and my emotional investment in any of this is absolutely zero, but one of the few things I'm almost sure is true in showbiz is that Harry and Louis had a romantic relationship.

It was too obvious to anyone who followed X Factor and the early days of the band, they really weren't subtle with it.

It's just as clear to me that it was a romance that lasted months not years and that by the end of their stint as a boyband they didn't get along at all.
In the XF months they both had girlfriends, though - there are pictures. They certainly seemed charmed by each other, but there is other footage of bromances between just about any combination of boys you could think of. Louis in particular was a very tactile, confident guy and it soon rubbed off on all the others. There are pics of Zayn and Harry and Niall and Harry where they look as if they're about to kiss, same with Liam and Louis.
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Old 23-12-2016, 17:46
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I didn't really take an interest in 1D enough to notice any flirting between the boys in the early days, but it could easily be that they just got carried away with the whole thing and hammed up the bromance either because they wanted to or because someone told them that they had a gay following. They were very young. Or maybe they decided they wanted to experiment. The millennial generation are much more experimental about sexuality than previous generations.

I agree that the random nutters who persist in this nonsense about them being forcibly closeted are mainly incredibly sad individuals who are trying to make their lives more important than they are.
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