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I agree this fandom business is crazy, I assume it's mainly women who are involved in this and I'm female but it makes no sense to me. Are women really so obsessed with men and full of hate for each other because it all revolves around them not wanting their idol to be with another woman. They prefer them to be gay but the best is definitely straight and single.
They get very angry too if their obsession isn't too happy about their behaviour. On the other hand why would you want to become an actor and then expect to have a completely private life. You can't have the money and lifestyle that goes with it and expect no interest in your life. Also there has been so much deceit in the past about famous people that it's almost expected now. I'm not trying to excuse their behaviour, just a few thoughts on it. |
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By keeping it so separate it does almost look as if he has something to hide....If it was all above board and 'normal' why not be proud of your wife and family and show them off at every available opportunity?
And the fact you use the terms 'above board' and 'normal' tell me you're not coming from either an above board or remotely normal place. |
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I agree this fandom business is crazy, I assume it's mainly women who are involved in this and I'm female but it makes no sense to me. Are women really so obsessed with men and full of hate for each other because it all revolves around them not wanting their idol to be with another woman. They prefer them to be gay but the best is definitely straight and single.
They get very angry too if their obsession isn't too happy about their behaviour. On the other hand why would you want to become an actor and then expect to have a completely private life. You can't have the money and lifestyle that goes with it and expect no interest in your life. Also there has been so much deceit in the past about famous people that it's almost expected now. I'm not trying to excuse their behaviour, just a few thoughts on it. |
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Why shouldn't he have a career he loves and is good at, and a private life? In any case, he's not keeping it secret at all. He has got married, allowed pictures of his wedding, revealed the name and gender of his child ( which Tom Hardy hasn't). It's not his fault that that doesn't fit into the crazies narrative. If you like their film, see it. if you don't, don't. That is all these people owe you.
He didn't release pics of his wedding. The only pics were paparazzi pics. And he has never released a picture of his child. Again the only pics are pap pics. But why should he? His wedding was a private thing, as most people's are. It's only people who need the publicity that flog their wedding to Hello Mag complete with a rent a crowd of z lister guests. Or use their babies as another opportunity for profile boosting. Cumberbatch doesn't need any of that plus the crazies in his fandom have probably also been instrumental in him keeping his private life out of the media. |
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Another lot of crazy fans are the 'camren shippers' who ship Lauren Jauregui and Camila Cabello together from Fifth Harmony. I s̶t̶a̶l̶k̶ follow Lauren because she is a total goddess
and although i got sucked into the camren ship i know the line of reality and delusion, unlike the shippers who read into everything they do to somehow prove that they are/were dating.Then a picture got leaked of Lauren kissing her childhood bestfriend Lucy (rumours also went around about them dating beforehand) and this sort of proved they are in fact dating and twitter went into meltdown. It was like the end of the world to them, death threats and all sorts madness but it does make for some good entertainment!
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He didn't release pics of his wedding. The only pics were paparazzi pics. And he has never released a picture of his child. Again the only pics are pap pics. But why should he? His wedding was a private thing, as most people's are. It's only people who need the publicity that flog their wedding to Hello Mag complete with a rent a crowd of z lister guests. Or use their babies as another opportunity for profile boosting.
Cumberbatch doesn't need any of that plus the crazies in his fandom have probably also been instrumental in him keeping his private life out of the media. |
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When did it become normal to keep your public and private life so separate? By keeping it so separate it does almost look as if he has something to hide....If it was all above board and 'normal' why not be proud of your wife and family and show them off at every available opportunity?
We live in a world where we assume we are more open and honest than previous generations, but if you scratch the surface, Hollywood now is almost as deceitful and fake, as it was in the early 20th century, with all the beards and seemingly fake dating stories! Lauren from Fifth Harmony has just tonight come out as bisexual in an open letter to Donald Trump and the nation. She is on Simon Cowell's label Syco, same as One Direction are. How is it possible that Simon has allowed Lauren to do this (and Joe McElderry and Will Young) but insists on forcing Louis Tomlinson to pretend to be father to a child the Larries believe is a hired actor? There aren't nearly as many beards as there would have been in 1920! There were lavender marriages then too and it was illegal to be gay in the US, so all that made sense. I don't think there has been any 'bearding' in One Direction. Taylor Swift was ridiculed for setting up paps to document her relationship with Tom Hiddleston, but that doesn't mean the relationship was fake and they are both gay. |
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Could somebody let me know what a 'Larrie' and a 'tinhat' is, please?
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The colour thing is interesting. The perfect example of circular logic: 1. Pick something the celeb does all the time. 2. Claim the fact they do it all the time is proof it signifies something important. 3. What's more important than secret love conspiracy? 4. Ergo, whenever they do that thing they do all the time, it's proof and shoutout of secret love conspiracy. I want to add the two leads from Supernatural to this ,both married to women with combined almost 6 kids but tinhats believe they are gay and married to each other and their wives are evil scheming beards . And more reading material about Cumberbatch "fans" http://www.xojane.com/issues/cumberb...o-get-me-fired |
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There are lots of actors who are far more private than Cumberbatch and no one accuses them of having fake marriages and fake kids. It's just they're not the Internet's fantasy boyfriend.
Closeting and bearding (or relationships for PR) do still exist - first hand experience - but personally I don't believe beard relationships progress to marriage, unless maybe Scientology is involved because that's a whole 'nother kettle of crazy. |
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I want to add the two leads from Supernatural to this ,both married to women with combined almost 6 kids but tinhats believe they are gay and married to each other and their wives are evil scheming beards . |
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But he also wants a private family life, and for that life to be protected and not part of his public work life.
But that is a massive disconnect. When did it become normal to keep your public and private life so separate? By keeping it so separate it does almost look as if he has something to hide....If it was all above board and 'normal' why not be proud of your wife and family and show them off at every available opportunity? We live in a world where we assume we are more open and honest than previous generations, but if you scratch the surface, Hollywood now is almost as deceitful and fake, as it was in the early 20th century, with all the beards and seemingly fake dating stories! I have a nosy at Tumblr every now and then and watched this marriage drama unfold there. The amount of crazy is genuinely disturbing. I've also noticed that on the Sherlock bit most 'fans' want him and Watson to be gay and it seems to be leaking into wanting the real actors to be as well. Social media is giving platfom to voice opinions but it is worrying when people become obsessed, create fantasy world's that doesn't differenciate between fiction and reality and rises to stalkerish levels. (I seem to recall.that Cumberbatch's house/hotel or something was leaked online and certain people 'causally'took a stroll down that street.) |
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Just because he is an actor doesn't mean every aspect of his life is open to these 'Cumberbitches' to pick apart - the man has a right to privacy.
I have a nosy at Tumblr every now and then and watched this marriage drama unfold there. The amount of crazy is genuinely disturbing. I've also noticed that on the Sherlock bit most 'fans' want him and Watson to be gay and it seems to be leaking into wanting the real actors to be as well. Social media is giving platfom to voice opinions but it is worrying when people become obsessed, create fantasy world's that doesn't differenciate between fiction and reality and rises to stalkerish levels. (I seem to recall.that Cumberbatch's house/hotel or something was leaked online and certain people 'causally'took a stroll down that street.) |
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A lot of otherwise sceptical people were converted into Larries through watching Larrie videos by youtuber Freddieismyqueen.
This is the latest one, featuring Louis' girlfriend Danielle. Take a look and you too may become a Larrie (or understand the way they were lured in, at least). The videos are very clever. Even I was convinced for about two weeks back in 2012. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbb-XtcMNVM |
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Were I to go looking where is the closed larrie thread on here ?
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A lot of otherwise sceptical people were converted into Larries through watching Larrie videos by youtuber Freddieismyqueen.
This is the latest one, featuring Louis' girlfriend Danielle. Take a look and you too may become a Larrie (or understand the way they were lured in, at least). The videos are very clever. Even I was convinced for about two weeks back in 2012. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbb-XtcMNVM |
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Wth did I just watch? This is insane.
The thought that people watch it, believe it and it even encourages them to join in with the absolute madness is mind blowing |
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Is Freddieismyqueen the woman in her 40's who professes to be a lawyer or a consultant surgeon or something?
Not that being a Larry precludes her from having a decent career but...it's a bit of an odd hobby for anyone , after all is said and done. Scrutinizing video footage, photoshopping and editing it, sticking it on YouTube as complete and undeniable PROOF that two young men in a now defunct boyband are in a secret gay relationship, writing lengthy masterposts about the whole shenanigans on Tumblr, and calling out anyone who might just think it's a bit bonkers/fan fiction/wishful thinking, as homophobic, well it's beyond embarrassing. |
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I wonder what these peoples families think of what they are doing? You would hope someone in their family would stage an intervention. I know a lot of it is internet based, but some of it involves spending a lot of money! Surely it would be noticed?
There were stories of fans booking hotel rooms in the same hotel as Matt Smith and Karen Gillan at SDCC to prove they were in a relationship when they were on Doctor Who. That hotel room must have cost $$$! Wouldn't their partner or parent or whoever have said 'Why have you spent $200 on a hotel room in San Diego??' Or 'Why are you spending every Saturday walking up and down a street in Primrose Hill??' |
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The logic completely fails with the Supernatural crazies. Don't they claim, that the wives are beards AND carry surrogate babies for the guys? With their logic, these women have devoted their lives to serve the guys, Jensen's wife now being a surrogate for twins, and Jared's wife also pregnant with another child. Yet they receive only hate. Shouldn't the fandom worship the women for devoting their lives to help out the guys? They're a scary bunch, with stalker tendencies.
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Please don't paint all us SPN fans the same, there are a few idiots out there spoiling it for the rest of us, I was delighted to hear the news of new babies for Jared and Jensen and their wives
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There were stories of fans booking hotel rooms in the same hotel as Matt Smith and Karen Gillan at SDCC to prove they were in a relationship when they were on Doctor Who. That hotel room must have cost $$$! Wouldn't their partner or parent or whoever have said 'Why have you spent $200 on a hotel room in San Diego??' Or 'Why are you spending every Saturday walking up and down a street in Primrose Hill??' I refuse to believe any well person behaves this way. It has to be mentally unstable people mostly, all easily able to fuel each other thanks to the internet and the fact you aren't allowed to say so when someone is crazy anymore. |
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Many actors etc would like to be more active on social media, and interact with fans, but the horrid tinhatters drive them away
I think the vast majority of people who act this way are young and clueless but I think the fact people have zero respect for authority of any kind isn't helping either. One time an elder or someone you admire asking you not to do something would have helped somewhat. Now people just don't care about what anyone wants but themselves. |
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Hayley Atwell is a good example of this. People kept on and on at her about "bisexual Steve Rogers" and also did this really weird thing where they called her "mom" when talking to her. The mom thing, she requested they stopped and they wouldn't. She quit social media over it in the end.
I think the vast majority of people who act this way are young and clueless but I think the fact people have zero respect for authority of any kind isn't helping either. One time an elder or someone you admire asking you not to do something would have helped somewhat. Now people just don't care about what anyone wants but themselves. |
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I wonder what these peoples families think of what they are doing? You would hope someone in their family would stage an intervention. I know a lot of it is internet based, but some of it involves spending a lot of money! Surely it would be noticed?
There were stories of fans booking hotel rooms in the same hotel as Matt Smith and Karen Gillan at SDCC to prove they were in a relationship when they were on Doctor Who. That hotel room must have cost $$$! Wouldn't their partner or parent or whoever have said 'Why have you spent $200 on a hotel room in San Diego??' Or 'Why are you spending every Saturday walking up and down a street in Primrose Hill??' |
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Eh? That is just completely weird!
![]() I think it's shorthand for "you're so cool I wish you were my mum/dad" but still no less creepy and weird. I can only hope it's VERY young people who are doing it, and even then...
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and although i got sucked into the camren ship i know the line of reality and delusion, unlike the shippers who read into everything they do to somehow prove that they are/were dating.
madness but it does make for some good entertainment!

