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*SPOILER* Blackpool Please do not hint at results elsewhere until Sun show has aired
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Cadiva
20-11-2016
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“I like fun celebrities, but I also expect the public to vote for those who are actually doing real routines and not just glorified dad dancing.”

Then that's your "problem" and not anyone else's as they're all doing what they're told to do - vote for their favourite.

Thanks for the spoiler chaps, the forum last night was slower than a snail travelling through spilled molasses.
katmobile
20-11-2016
Originally Posted by Liza with a Zee:
“Agree, he will be out week after next. The final 4 will be Danny, Rob, Ore and Lou. With final 3 being Danny, Lou and Ore.”

I would want to call it actually Claudia might do better next week without the huge floor and backdancers swallowing her and with some ballroom that doesn't go faster than a horse being chased by a greyhound.

Louise I could we well see as a surprise boot in the semis or event the quarters. Party latin doesn't seem to be Ore's strongpoint so one bad samba could land him out possibly.
Amethyzt
20-11-2016
Spoiler Result for new Page


Claudia v Greg

GREG OUT

Congratulations to our Spoiler time winner Mabbus Cattus 11.10 pm
Amethyzt
20-11-2016
Originally Posted by Monaogg:
“Thanks to luckwudhaveit and Thursday Next.”



And Thanks to our Moles
Gary Baldi
20-11-2016
Couldn't we have put the Blackpool donkey on instead of Ed Balls? I'm sure the footwork would have been much better and more skillful.
catkins198
20-11-2016
Originally Posted by musicangel:
“Im so annoyed at this, greg a true non dancer making massive improvements, out against pro dancers!!! ( not counting ed he hasn't improved)”

I am not so much annoyed, more frustrated that people supporting Ed, which of course they are entitled to do, go on and on about he is improving, he is trying so hard, he is so nice blah blah blah BUT surely all that can be said about Greg. The difference is Greg has improved far more than Ed and has danced proper steps in his dances unlike Ed in his salsa and jive.

I would have liked Greg to reach the final but am realistic enough to see that even though I really like him that was never really going to happen.

I am sad that he has gone and sad for him and Natalie. Why did he not deserve the same support as Ed as a non dancer improving week on week?
Chapelamble
20-11-2016
Originally Posted by catkins198:
“I am not so much annoyed, more frustrated that people supporting Ed, which of course they are entitled to do, go on and on about he is improving, he is trying so hard, he is so nice blah blah blah BUT surely all that can be said about Greg. The difference is Greg has improved far more than Ed and has danced proper steps in his dances unlike Ed in his salsa and jive.

I would have liked Greg to reach the final but am realistic enough to see that even though I really like him that was never really going to happen.

I am sad that he has gone and sad for him and Natalie. Why did he not deserve the same support as Ed as a non dancer improving week on week?”

Greg is a better dancer than Ed but at the bottom of the leader board entertainment value trumps dance ability. I found Ed more entertaining than Greg and have voted for Ed previously but yesterday Ed did not get any of my votes, they went to Claudia and Robert.
Doghouse Riley
20-11-2016
Originally Posted by catkins198:
“I am not so much annoyed, more frustrated that people supporting Ed, which of course they are entitled to do, go on and on about he is improving, he is trying so hard, he is so nice blah blah blah BUT surely all that can be said about Greg. The difference is Greg has improved far more than Ed and has danced proper steps in his dances unlike Ed in his salsa and jive.

I would have liked Greg to reach the final but am realistic enough to see that even though I really like him that was never really going to happen.

I am sad that he has gone and sad for him and Natalie. Why did he not deserve the same support as Ed as a non dancer improving week on week?”

Because he was up against the support from the non dancing section of the audience who like him for his entertainment value. (and "the bloody minded?")

Ed won't make the final. As the better dancers go out, their support will go to other contestants rather than Ed, it's the same every year. He'll always get the fewest votes from the judges.
londongirlGre
20-11-2016
Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley:
“Because he was up against the support from the non dancing section of the audience who like him for his entertainment value. (and "the bloody minded?")

Ed won't make the final. As the better dancers go out, their support will go to other contestants rather than Ed, it's the same every year. He'll always get the fewest votes from the judges.”

I think that Ed is getting way more support than previous duffers. I'm expecting him to win.
katmobile
20-11-2016
Originally Posted by catkins198:
“I am not so much annoyed, more frustrated that people supporting Ed, which of course they are entitled to do, go on and on about he is improving, he is trying so hard, he is so nice blah blah blah BUT surely all that can be said about Greg. The difference is Greg has improved far more than Ed and has danced proper steps in his dances unlike Ed in his salsa and jive.

I would have liked Greg to reach the final but am realistic enough to see that even though I really like him that was never really going to happen.

I am sad that he has gone and sad for him and Natalie. Why did he not deserve the same support as Ed as a non dancer improving week on week?”

I agree with this but I understand why it's happening. The worry is he'll put out someone who might otherwise win in my case it's that he'll put out Rob.
katmobile
20-11-2016
Originally Posted by Amethyzt:
“And Thanks to our Moles”

I may not have liked the result but thanks to the work involved in getting it to us.
BuddyBontheNet
20-11-2016
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“So, Ed Balls, a corrupt politician who fiddled expenses from public money and demanded a recount because he couldn't accept he'd lost his seat is an angel! I bet you are the first to complain about MP's fiddling their expenses. Yet he you are, complaining about a woman who drives a 4 x 4 yet perfectly condoning a would-be fraudster! The mind boggles.”

I can't find anything to show Ed Ball (or his wife) were caught fiddling their expenses, in fact the Parliamentary Commissioner for Standards dismissed the allegations made against them. Also, he didn't demand a recount in 2015, it was a mutually agreed decision and a lot of people who don't like him have commented on how dignified and respectful his losing speech was. BTW I didn't vote for him, but I don't like to read about someone being slagged off if it might not be justified. He was the bover boy for Gordon Brown and an unlikable politician, so I am not saying he's an angel. I do think he was humbled by his later political experiences though and he seems a nicer guy these day. Feel free to correct my understanding of what happened in his political past. :smile:

Originally Posted by Gary Baldi:
“The producers have actually quite deliberately tried to crank up the comedy value with Ed (as they have with Rinder) in the staging, props and the song choices which lend themselves to comedy routines. So, they are majorly responsible. If they had not introduced all these elements and Ed had not taken on the comedy duffer mantle, but just was a usual bad dad dancer doing the same type of non-over the top routines as the others, his popularity would not have soared in the way it has and I suspect he would indeed have been one of those voted out in the earliest weeks as people would have found him boring. Don't underestimate the song choices and staging in all of this.”

Preaching to the choir. I've watched every single episode of the show. :grin:

Originally Posted by catkins198:
“Well his salsa had practically no salsa content - Karen Hardy remarked on that. Considering Craig made a big deal of saying Greg's rhumba was not really a rhumba he kept very quiet about Ed's salsa.

Last night there is no way Ed's jive was any such thing. Yes he danced but it was not a jive.”

He dances the steps he's given, so he's not to blame for the content. All I'm saying is he does dance during his routines and is no where near as bad as previous comedy celebs.

I voted for Greg and Ore, but only Ore has/had a chance of getting to the final. Ed won't be there either (I hope!). :wink:
BuddyBontheNet
20-11-2016
PS Thanks to all those involved in bringing in the result and to those peeps who post the result on every new page.
Joely B
20-11-2016
Originally Posted by dippydancing:
“Never mind this day & age- this day & her age: watching her being hoiked into that saddle like a 7 year old was cringe-making and worse than any patronising nnyaaawws from Tess.”

Notwithstanding the overlooked and yet obvious fact that she could clearly have vaulted onto the bloody donkey from a standing start, if not over it.
She must be so sick of being treated like an oompa loompa.
Colin_Smith5
20-11-2016
Allow me to put a dance teacher view on it please. The thing about Ed is that he is trying to entertain cos he knows for a fact he cannot dance. In a real dance competition he would be out in the 1st round, but we all know SCD is not a proper dance comp now. Most of the voters are not looking at technicalities or basic foot mistakes. I can honestly see Ed winning it, and if he does, then SCD will change in a rather big way. Besides, Ed has got all the house of commons and the house of lords all voting for him and all their staff as well.
Cadiva
20-11-2016
Originally Posted by catkins198:
“The difference is Greg has improved far more than Ed and has danced proper steps in his dances unlike Ed in his salsa and jive.”

Sorry but you're incorrect. Every single one of Ed's routines has had recognised steps from the dance it is supposed to be. They may not be the most technically difficult steps but they are there.
catkins198
20-11-2016
Originally Posted by Chapelamble:
“Greg is a better dancer than Ed but at the bottom of the leader board entertainment value trumps dance ability. I found Ed more entertaining than Greg and have voted for Ed previously but yesterday Ed did not get any of my votes, they went to Claudia and Robert.”

Well obviously we all have different views and while most weeks I have found Ed entertaining, last night I certainly didn't and really enjoyed Greg's dance.

I just much prefer Greg as a person too.


Originally Posted by BuddyBontheNet:
“I He dances the steps he's given, so he's not to blame for the content. All I'm saying is he does dance during his routines and is no where near as bad as previous comedy celebs.

I voted for Greg and Ore, but only Ore has/had a chance of getting to the final. Ed won't be there either (I hope!). :wink:”

I am not disputing that he is dancing the steps but he is not dancing them properly. His salsa was not a salsa and his jive last night was not a jive. Just flicking your foot or leg does not constitute a jive.

Some weeks I thought Ed has done a good job of the dance, doing the right steps as far as I can tell and being light on his feet. His Gangnam style dance I enjoyed and thought he danced it well and those lifts were really good. Last night though was not good and he may have been doing a dance of sorts but it really was not a jive
Joely B
20-11-2016
Originally Posted by Colin_Smith5:
“Besides, Ed has got all the house of commons and the house of lords all voting for him and all their staff as well.”

I'm utterly unconvinced that Theresa May is tapping away at her iphone to vote for Ed, I'm afraid. And half the house of lords it's past their bed time.
catkins198
20-11-2016
Originally Posted by Cadiva:
“Sorry but you're incorrect. Every single one of Ed's routines has had recognised steps from the dance it is supposed to be. They may not be the most technically difficult steps but they are there.”

So you are saying that "dance" he did last night was a jive are you? Really!!!!!!!!!!

I don't know that much about dance but I know a jive when I see one.

I also thought at the time that his salsa did not have much salsa content at all (although that was probably down to Katya) and Karen Hardy said the same
Cadiva
20-11-2016
Originally Posted by catkins198:
“I am not disputing that he is dancing the steps but he is not dancing them properly. His salsa was not a salsa and his jive last night was not a jive. Just flicking your foot or leg does not constitute a jive. e”

Then what was missing, in your opinion, from the salsa to make it a salsa and from the jive to make it a jive?

Originally Posted by catkins198:
“So you are saying that "dance" he did last night was a jive are you? Really!!!!!!!!!!”

Yes, that dance he did last night contained steps which are generally found within a jive. Were they technically well executed? That's a completely different argument and not the one you're presenting.
SP15
20-11-2016
Originally Posted by Chapelamble:
“Greg is a better dancer than Ed but at the bottom of the leader board entertainment value trumps dance ability. I found Ed more entertaining than Greg and have voted for Ed previously but yesterday Ed did not get any of my votes, they went to Claudia and Robert.”

Could be that Ed comes across as more surprised when he gets through each week. he doesn't expect to win, he's just enjoying himself and Katya's choreography is tailored to his abilities? People like that.

Greg on the other hand,imo, has zero personality and comes across as being superior just because he has won an olympic medal and that is why people should vote for him.

They have both improved since their week 1 dances maybe Greg more than Ed but people vote also on personality and Ed has one (imo). If I voted I would never vote for Danny, Ore or Claudia, they leave me feeling nothing after they have danced. Louise and Robert try hard and have improved and Ed makes me smile. So I would enjoy a Louise, Robert and Ed final more than a Danny, Ore and Claudia one. Just my personal opinion and if it is a Danny, Ore and either Louise or Claudia final, then I most probably won't watch it live.
An Thropologist
20-11-2016
Originally Posted by catkins198:
“I am not so much annoyed, more frustrated that people supporting Ed, which of course they are entitled to do, go on and on about he is improving, he is trying so hard, he is so nice blah blah blah BUT surely all that can be said about Greg. The difference is Greg has improved far more than Ed and has danced proper steps in his dances unlike Ed in his salsa and jive.

I would have liked Greg to reach the final but am realistic enough to see that even though I really like him that was never really going to happen.

I am sad that he has gone and sad for him and Natalie. Why did he not deserve the same support as Ed as a non dancer improving week on week?”

I agree that Greg has improved immensly. I don't think he is as bad as some are making out. But I don't think Ed is either. He is being given some silly things to do and he has lots of faults but based on previous "duffers" I would but him a good league above.

I went to a salsa gig the night Ed danced his salsa and the concensus among salsa dancers, that night, was that Ed's dance, for all its faults, was more salsery than Daisy's.
catkins198
20-11-2016
Originally Posted by Colin_Smith5:
“Allow me to put a dance teacher view on it please. The thing about Ed is that he is trying to entertain cos he knows for a fact he cannot dance. In a real dance competition he would be out in the 1st round, but we all know SCD is not a proper dance comp now. Most of the voters are not looking at technicalities or basic foot mistakes. I can honestly see Ed winning it, and if he does, then SCD will change in a rather big way. Besides, Ed has got all the house of commons and the house of lords all voting for him and all their staff as well.”

Well as a dance teacher can you give your opinion on whether Ed danced a jive or not
catkins198
20-11-2016
Originally Posted by SP15:
“Could be that Ed comes across as more surprised when he gets through each week. he doesn't expect to win, he's just enjoying himself and Katya's choreography is tailored to his abilities? People like that.

Greg on the other hand,imo, has zero personality and comes across as being superior just because he has won an olympic medal and that is why people should vote for him.

They have both improved since their week 1 dances maybe Greg more than Ed but people vote also on personality and Ed has one (imo). If I voted I would never vote for Danny, Ore or Claudia, they leave me feeling nothing after they have danced. Louise and Robert try hard and have improved and Ed makes me smile. So I would enjoy a Louise, Robert and Ed final more than a Danny, Ore and Claudia one. Just my personal opinion and if it is a Danny, Ore and either Louise or Claudia final, then I most probably won't watch it live. ”

Well we obviously see things differently because I don't think Ed looks surprised to be voted through at all. I think he looks as though he knew and expected to be. Greg, to me, always looked far more surprised.

I also don't agree that Greg has zero personality or thinks he is superior. He seems a bit shy to me and I much prefer his personality to that of Ed


Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“I agree that Greg has improved immensly. I don't think he is as bad as some are making out. But I don't think Ed is either though. He is being given some silly things to do and he has lots of faults but based on previous "duffers" I would but him a good league above.

I went to a salsa gig the night Ed danced his salsa and the concensus among salsa dancers that night was that Ed's dance for all its faults was more salsery than Daisy's.”

Well just because Daisy's so called salsa did not contain salsa does not mean Ed's did. Karen Hardy who I believe knows what she is talking about said it contained very little salsa. Strange that it was not mentioned by the judges and yet Greg's lack of rhumba steps was
Colin_Smith5
20-11-2016
Originally Posted by catkins198:
“Well as a dance teacher can you give your opinion on whether Ed danced a jive or not”

Some basic moves in it mostly, he kept to tempo but style, attitude and technical perfection was totally missing.
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