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Old 18-12-2016, 22:11
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Ok thanks. Not really. There are two there it could be. One at Wrangaton on the A38 very near South Brent but there's a brand new MIP mast in North Huish which I think is the one. Just need a slightly better zoom.
No worries. Only if you have time.
Only 5 postcodes plotted there
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Old 18-12-2016, 22:23
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Thanks. That's the one on the A38, not the MIP.
Ok well, not sure about that. Seems to contradict what the checker that's been posted here returns.
I'll enter a few manually and see what I get.
Thanks again.
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Old 18-12-2016, 22:37
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Thanks. That's the one on the A38, not the MIP.
Ok well, not sure about that. Seems to contradict what the checker that's been posted here returns.
I'll enter a few manually and see what I get.
Thanks again.
only 30000 postcodes Gavin said vs 1.8 million so it's harder to do on a regional basis.
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Old 18-12-2016, 22:37
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No worries, remember these are a pseudo random set of postcodes in the list and only a subset of those returned a value, so there are probably many more out there that could fill in the blanks. If I get a chance this week before the real map is updated I'll try more from that surrounding area.
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Old 18-12-2016, 22:44
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Ok this is not a complaint but just wanted to point it out: Today, EE has also switched on its low frequency 800MHz spectrum on 700 sites across the country, filling in 5,000 square kilometres of 4G not spots overnight and improving indoor signal in 500,000 homes. Parts of Shropshire, Somerset, Snowdonia, Oban, Glasgow, Berkshire and Derbyshire are among those getting 4G for the first time thanks to the switch on.

I do not see anywhere in Berkshire 4G800. I think EE might have changed their original plans and dacided not to switch it yet here in Berkshire
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Old 18-12-2016, 22:52
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Or they haven't finished updating the coverage checker.
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Old 18-12-2016, 22:58
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Or they haven't finished updating the coverage checker.
I hope so as it shows last updated on 13.12 and the provisioning finished on Friday so will see how it looks tomorrow as will drive a lot around that areas and see if I find any 4G800
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Old 18-12-2016, 23:00
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thats a very usefull map would love to see a zoomed in south midlands worcestershire area
That map has a few dots plotted north of market Drayton some almost over where I live yet there is not 800mhz 4g here on my other half's iPhone 6s, still sits on a useless 2g signal or unusable 3g signal if the WiFi is turned off.
Three effectively cover from Nantwich up to Whitchurch down through market Drayton all the way into Telford on three masts, 4 now the local mbnl mast has had three 800mhz added also, not a jot of EE 800mhz so I don't understand that map.
EE is VERY VERY firmly in last place for coverage here as 02/vodafone have indoor 3 bars 4g even though the mast is 7 miles away, three has the area well covered in strong 800mhz 4g whilst EE has no useable indoor coverage and some weak 4g/3g outside, mainly as they refuse to touch any of the many orange masts still in the area.. Bit poor.
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Old 18-12-2016, 23:10
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It's only visualising the values that are available through their API. That's the only data that is available, it might be wrong, it might be right, or somewhere in between. Considering it's not available via their official coverage checker I would recommend taking with a healthy pinch of salt. Edit: and even when it is 'official' I'm sure we all know how realistic/accurate those coverage estimates are.
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Old 18-12-2016, 23:17
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Oh the forums are writable again but not upgraded? Odd. I wouldn't expect these posts to still be here when the new version goes up - someone probably enabled it by accident.

The 800 here is making basically no difference. In the canteen at work I was usually falling back to 3G and now get 4G-800, but that's almost in spitting distance of the mast.
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Old 18-12-2016, 23:20
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Oh the forums are writable again but not upgraded? Odd. I wouldn't expect these posts to still be here when the new version goes up - someone probably enabled it by accident.

The 800 here is making basically no difference. In the canteen at work I was usually faking back to 3G and now get 4G-800, but that's almost in spitting distance of the mast.
I'm hoping the masts that I'm connecting to are still testing as the 4g800 is not going far and still falling over to bigger footprints of 2G and 3G.
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Old 18-12-2016, 23:27
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Ok this is not a complaint but just wanted to point it out: Today, EE has also switched on its low frequency 800MHz spectrum on 700 sites across the country, filling in 5,000 square kilometres of 4G not spots overnight and improving indoor signal in 500,000 homes. Parts of Shropshire, Somerset, Snowdonia, Oban, Glasgow, Berkshire and Derbyshire are among those getting 4G for the first time thanks to the switch on.

I do not see anywhere in Berkshire 4G800. I think EE might have changed their original plans and dacided not to switch it yet here in Berkshire
Mate, it's Christmas. Whatever the map shows, the network is what it is and that's not going to change in the next few weeks!

I don't know what phone you've got, but given you'll only get onto 800 as a last resort (any band 3 or 7 and no chance) I am not sure you can easily go around looking for it.

Relax and enjoy the holidays!
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Old 18-12-2016, 23:28
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It's only visualising the values that are available through their API. That's the only data that is available, it might be wrong, it might be right, or somewhere in between. Considering it's not available via their official coverage checker I would recommend taking with a healthy pinch of salt. Edit: and even when it is 'official' I'm sure we all know how realistic/accurate those coverage estimates are.
Gavin, just a thought. Can you filter the results so only where the 4G800 figure is more than the 2G figure?
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Old 18-12-2016, 23:29
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Same here. On the EE forums there was speculation it was in carrier aggregation with 1800.
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Old 18-12-2016, 23:30
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Oh the forums are writable again but not upgraded? Odd. I wouldn't expect these posts to still be here when the new version goes up - someone probably enabled it by accident.
These posts won't be lost, but I'd still expect fun and games when the new forum takes over.

They suspended any writing to the forum to allow what must have been a sizeable export of data. Now that's presumably on another server to test the importation into the new forum software, they re-enabled the old forum.

They've said that once they iron out some issues (who expects such a large amount of data to import without problems? I suspect user data is going to be at high risk, so corrupted profiles, post counts, access privs etc) then they'll pause the forum a second time and do the FINAL export.

At this point, the next time we get access will be on the new forum. Assuming it all works. Just like EE, I'd say that things will go on hold now for a bit.
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Old 18-12-2016, 23:38
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On a much smaller scale I've done forum migrations... generally a migration script works well and if it works for 100 it tends to work for 10000 unless there's a really weird gotcha like someone with unicode in their username or something. But if it took 48-72 hours to migrate once for testing it'll take 48-72 again for the real move. Different software had different database structure so they won't be writing to both at the same time.
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Old 18-12-2016, 23:48
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From using computers for 33 years I would say any more than 5 migrations and we're screwed!! hahahaha
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Old 18-12-2016, 23:50
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I hope so as it shows last updated on 13.12 and the provisioning finished on Friday so will see how it looks tomorrow as will drive a lot around that areas and see if I find any 4G800
You climbed that garage totem, got inside and had a look at the panels yet?
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Old 19-12-2016, 00:11
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Gavin, just a thought. Can you filter the results so only where the 4G800 figure is more than the 2G figure?
Looking at the data there's just 100 instances of 800 being greater than 2g for strength (n.b. not greater than or equal to)
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Old 19-12-2016, 00:15
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The sites all being on full power as EE told me presumably doesn't necessarily mean the maximum possible power, rather the full power intended for that site.

There may be good reasons not to just have all sites set to cover 20 miles, given the limited spectrum. Other sites nearby could be intended to fill in soon after. There are 3000 more between now and the end of 2017.
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Old 19-12-2016, 00:26
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Looking at Plymouth it looks like there is 1 site by Plympton that aims to cover most of the city for 800MHz.... but it's offline at the mo. Hopefully they will upgrade a few more sites (4 or 5) so indoor coverage will increase as that's really what it's designed for...
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Old 19-12-2016, 06:10
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Certainly looks like more than 700 sites to create a map like that. Still being told they are not on full power yet, will be in a month or so.

Got a zoomed in map for Scotland?
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Old 19-12-2016, 07:33
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Mate, it's Christmas. Whatever the map shows, the network is what it is and that's not going to change in the next few weeks!

I don't know what phone you've got, but given you'll only get onto 800 as a last resort (any band 3 or 7 and no chance) I am not sure you can easily go around looking for it.

Relax and enjoy the holidays!
Jon just pointing out something which wash written on EE webpage. I have Iphone SE and I know what bands using. It is not Christmas yet and hopefully they might do some more work between now and 31st as some people are still at work.
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Old 19-12-2016, 07:36
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You climbed that garage totem, got inside and had a look at the panels yet?
Was very dark last night around 11pm but this morning I am all prepared
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Old 19-12-2016, 07:45
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Jon just pointing out something which wash written on EE webpage. I have Iphone SE and I know what bands using. It is not Christmas yet and hopefully they might do some more work between now and 31st as some people are still at work.
Most companies have a change freeze from now until next year.
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