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EE 800 Mhz 4G to go live next week
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georgi_prodanov
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by rasseru16:
“I want some 800 loving here! Oh well maybe next year lol”

or may be this year you never know. Last week did not have 4G800 but today band 20. Made a call and used data perfectly fine. So fingers crossed. Santa claus might surprise you
Gigabit
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by georgi_prodanov:
“or may be this year you never know. Last week did not have 4G800 but today band 20. Made a call and used data perfectly fine. So fingers crossed. Santa claus might surprise you ”

You really don't listen do you. No changes will be made to the network now.
GavinAshford
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by rasseru16:
“I want some 800 loving here! Oh well maybe next year lol”

IP postcode area. 23000 postcodes, only 1600 with 800 data.
http://gdurl.com/Py_B

Edit, IP and NR combined:
http://gdurl.com/m4hx
georgi_prodanov
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by Gigabit:
“You really don't listen do you. No changes will be made to the network now.”

I do not listen to nobody. The facts talk. You dont really listen do you? Last week Friday no 4G800 today yes. So somebody in EE still works
ryan125hst
19-12-2016
It was interesting to look at EE's network improvements while being brought home from uni on Saturday. Travelling from Sheffield to Retford and using the Service Mode on my Samsung Galaxy S7 (*#0011#), I didn't notice anything different until reaching Worksop. Here, while on the A57, I noticed Band 7 being used, and this was also being aggregated with Band 3. It's the first time I've seen 2,600 Mhz 4G in Worksop on EE and it doesn't yet show on the map. It does show in the website data though if you put a Worksop postcode in and find it on developers tools in Chrome.

I was also pleased to see Band 20 making an appearance in Retford. No additional coverage, and my phone dropped from 4G to 3G as it always does in a certain place in Ordsall. However, up near the primary school, I was getting Band 3 aggregated with Band 20. A similar story in my house, with the living room still being a bit of a 4G black hole with 3G or sometimes 2G being preferred. However, when sat on my desk, Band 20 was being connected to and sometimes being aggregated with Band 3. No Band 7 in Retford yet though it seems.

It seems to have gone entirely though now. I've been checking the signal round the house today and not once have I seen Band 20. It was only on low power before as the coverage was no better than Band 3, so I can only assume they were testing it. I can't wait for it to be turned onto full power next year as 4G is a bit patchy downstairs and occasionally drops to 3G upstairs, so this will mean perfect 4G coverage all over.

Another thing I've noticed that I haven't before is there seems to be an old Orange 2G mast- it only broadcasts GPRS but was code 33. I think it could be the one near Grove if you want to see it on the coverage map. In my room, I get 4 or 5 bars of 2G off it. 3G wise, I tend to get 2 or 3 bars (from a different mast that is as Grove is 2G only I believe), and normally 0-2 bars of 4G (1800) Mhz. There still seems to be masts that need to be switched to the EE code and have 3G added, never mind 4G1800. Even the addition of the latter will help coverage by the looks of it, with 4G800 finishing it all of nicely.

I'm home until mid January now so I'll keep monitoring the situation and will update when I see any changes. I hadn't seen any Band 20 in Sheffield by the time I left so I don't know if there's any active in the city center yet, I wonder if that will appear when I return to the city next month?
rasseru16
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by GavinAshford:
“IP postcode area. 23000 postcodes, only 1600 with 800 data.
http://gdurl.com/Py_B

Edit, IP and NR combined:
http://gdurl.com/m4hx”

Thank you very much Gavin =)
red_snow
20-12-2016
Hello Gavin,

Would you be able to perform this on the HP postcode areas please?

Thank you
srw985
20-12-2016
800Mhz working yesterday whilst in Llangollen and Bangor. Vastly improved coverage.

Showing as 4G+ and in LTE Discovery as CA with a weak 1800mhz signal.
barker71
20-12-2016
Does anyone know how its possible that EE think you can get 5 bars 3g at LL2 8DP , specifically the hospital site there?

It seems that coverage is good on the road but thats not much good to me!
d123
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by barker71:
“Does anyone know how its possible that EE think you can get 5 bars 3g at LL2 8DP , specifically the hospital site there?

It seems that coverage is good on the road but thats not much good to me!”

LL2 8DP
Quote:
“SORRY, WE DIDN'T FIND THE LOCATION YOU SPECIFIED
Please check your spelling or try entering a different location
e.g. a postcode or a larger nearby town/city and search again.”

GavinAshford
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by red_snow:
“Hello Gavin,

Would you be able to perform this on the HP postcode areas please?

Thank you”

The Oxford/Aylesbury/Luton line of towns/cities are all outside the current coverage info, so HP doesnt have much coverage at all.
http://gdurl.com/zoMI
barker71
20-12-2016
OOps sorry that should be ll22 8dp

Originally Posted by barker71:
“Does anyone know how its possible that EE think you can get 5 bars 3g at LL2 8DP , specifically the hospital site there?

It seems that coverage is good on the road but thats not much good to me!”

highfrequency
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by ryan125hst:
“It was interesting to look at EE's network improvements while being brought home from uni on Saturday. Travelling from Sheffield to Retford and using the Service Mode on my Samsung Galaxy S7 (*#0011#), I didn't notice anything different until reaching Worksop. Here, while on the A57, I noticed Band 7 being used, and this was also being aggregated with Band 3. It's the first time I've seen 2,600 Mhz 4G in Worksop on EE and it doesn't yet show on the map. It does show in the website data though if you put a Worksop postcode in and find it on developers tools in Chrome........................”

The Town Hall mast and the one next to B&Q were upgraded early this year with Band 7 & 20.

The large mast on the A57 next to the Scania Bus & Coach dealers has now got the same dual antennas as the other two above and may also now be broadcasting Band 7/20.

Not sure which Retford mast has Band 20. It's either the main one on London Rd, the one in Aldi car park or the one one Hallcroft Industrial estate. The 33 code is likely to be Grove as you say. One of the last ones still on 33 in the area.
d123
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by barker71:
“Does anyone know how its possible that EE think you can get 5 bars 3g at LL2 8DP , specifically the hospital site there?

It seems that coverage is good on the road but thats not much good to me!”


Originally Posted by barker71:
“OOps sorry that should be ll22 8dp”

According to the coverage checker, no 3G or 4G at that location, 1 bar of 2G outdoors...

https://s30.postimg.org/9aamustg1/IMG_5157.jpg
barker71
20-12-2016
This suggests 5 bars of 3g though doesnt it?

http://maps.ee.co.uk/all?brand=ee&ta...rage&q=ll228dp
georgi_prodanov
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by barker71:
“This suggests 5 bars of 3g though doesnt it?

http://maps.ee.co.uk/all?brand=ee&ta...rage&q=ll228dp”

I do not believe that maps as they show 4G800 0 strenght but I get indoors 1/2 bars band 20 in one location. will keep an eye
packages
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by barker71:
“This suggests 5 bars of 3g though doesnt it?

http://maps.ee.co.uk/all?brand=ee&ta...rage&q=ll228dp”

If you look at the actual map, there's no signal whatsoever there. The 5/5 is an error.
d123
20-12-2016
Originally Posted by barker71:
“This suggests 5 bars of 3g though doesnt it?

http://maps.ee.co.uk/all?brand=ee&ta...rage&q=ll228dp”

As packages says, check the actual map for coverage.
red_snow
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by GavinAshford:
“The Oxford/Aylesbury/Luton line of towns/cities are all outside the current coverage info, so HP doesnt have much coverage at all.
http://gdurl.com/zoMI”

Thank you Gavin, very much appreciated. Shame there is nothing around the Chilterns down towards High Wycombe, Amersham and The Chalfonts.
GavinAshford
21-12-2016
I'm sure it'll be there soon, just the info not available to grab yet.
ryan125hst
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by highfrequency:
“The Town Hall mast and the one next to B&Q were upgraded early this year with Band 7 & 20.

The large mast on the A57 next to the Scania Bus & Coach dealers has now got the same dual antennas as the other two above and may also now be broadcasting Band 7/20.

Not sure which Retford mast has Band 20. It's either the main one on London Rd, the one in Aldi car park or the one one Hallcroft Industrial estate. The 33 code is likely to be Grove as you say. One of the last ones still on 33 in the area.”

I thought i'd already posted this but I must have not pressed send:

I didn't realise Worksop has had Band 7 since early this year although I've probably not tested it on Service Mode until now and my S7 doesn't show 4G+ on the top of the screen.

As for Retford, I believe it's the London Road mast that is broadcasting Band 20 given that the signal is there but fairly week up at my end of Ordsall and is stronger when going past the primary school, before getting weaker again by the mini roundabout (normally dropping to 3G or 2G by then). Also, the one next to Aldi appears to have now gone. I saw it on Sitefinder when the site was still active but couldn't spot the mast from the main road. Looking on streetview at the Aldi entrance last night, the mast can be seen on older images but has vanished on the most recent images. Presumably they decided it was no longer needed?

As for the 2G mast broadcasting code 33, does this have any effect on call handovers? I managed to get data throughput of its GPRS (albeit very slow of course) but can calls handover to code 30 masts alright. There's that mast and I believe one up near the King and Miller that is still 2G only, and I don't think the mast on the Hallcrfoft Industrial Estate has had 4G added yet looking at the coverage map (2G and 3G only it seems), so there's still room for significant coverage improvements even without Band 20.
highfrequency
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by ryan125hst:
“I thought i'd already posted this but I must have not pressed send:

I didn't realise Worksop has had Band 7 since early this year although I've probably not tested it on Service Mode until now and my S7 doesn't show 4G+ on the top of the screen.

As for Retford, I believe it's the London Road mast that is broadcasting Band 20 given that the signal is there but fairly week up at my end of Ordsall and is stronger when going past the primary school, before getting weaker again by the mini roundabout (normally dropping to 3G or 2G by then). Also, the one next to Aldi appears to have now gone. I saw it on Sitefinder when the site was still active but couldn't spot the mast from the main road. Looking on streetview at the Aldi entrance last night, the mast can be seen on older images but has vanished on the most recent images. Presumably they decided it was no longer needed?

As for the 2G mast broadcasting code 33, does this have any effect on call handovers? I managed to get data throughput of its GPRS (albeit very slow of course) but can calls handover to code 30 masts alright. There's that mast and I believe one up near the King and Miller that is still 2G only, and I don't think the mast on the Hallcrfoft Industrial Estate has had 4G added yet looking at the coverage map (2G and 3G only it seems), so there's still room for significant coverage improvements even without Band 20.”

Yes, your right about that one at Aldi, had a look today and it's gone. The Hallcroft one recently but it had new antennas last year and i'm pretty sure it's 4G. I remember it used to be 0.5mbps on 3G before the last upgrade.

My local mast was a 2G 33 code before being converted for MNBL and it took EE nearly a year to add it to the coverage map.

EE could do with a mast near Ordsall/Retford Oaks School roundabout as the signal isnt very good around there, even on 2G.
David_bl1
21-12-2016
Originally Posted by ryan125hst:
“As for the 2G mast broadcasting code 33, does this have any effect on call handovers?”

Although in theory a feature called "Equivalent PLMN" (ePLMN) is used by the network to indicate to a mobile device that two different PLMN codes (i.e. 23430 and 23433) should be treated as the same network (i.e. equivalent for the purposes of PLMN selection, cell selection/reselection and handover), in practice this rarely works.

My experience is that switching to/from 23433 requires the mobile device to perform a re-registration. This results in active calls and data sessions being dropped.

During a call or data session, the mobile device will hang on to 23430 until the signal completely disappears, at which point the call is dropped. The mobile device then searches for available networks, sees 23433 and performs a registration. The same happens when the signal is lost from 23433.
jonmorris
21-12-2016
I've got an old Orange SIM and put it in a portable hotspot recently, and forgot how it used to work. The hotspot shows I am roaming, and I have to turn the roaming bar off to use it!

(Many phones had local and international roaming options added to cope with this and presumably similar situations elsewhere in the world as networks merged).
Stereo Steve
21-12-2016
Did anyone in their right mind seriously not expect this to be a massive balls up? This is EE after all. You have to add 6 months to 'next week' every time and then you won't be disappointed. It'll still be the best network for many a month so best just to go with it and not worry too much.
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