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Old 23-12-2016, 01:05
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You assume EE needs planning permission once a multi frequency mast (i.e. bands 3/7/20) is in situ.
No I know they don't, but I've seen plenty of Apps on behalf of EE (not 3) which only add H3G 800. You would think they would have it on their own applications if they were going to add it?
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Old 23-12-2016, 03:22
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I seem to be getting band 20 in Witham, Essex now but the signal strength isn't that much better than 1800mhz. At home i sometimes get 4g at 1800mhz but its pretty much the same with 800mhz and certainly get no more than 1 bar. I was expecting more from it. Could it just be that it's not at full power?
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Old 23-12-2016, 03:33
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No I know they don't, but I've seen plenty of Apps on behalf of EE (not 3) which only add H3G 800. You would think they would have it on their own applications if they were going to add it?
Many of the sites just switched on were already done under the guise of "Three" or MBNL, the latter as part of mast upgrades in general despite them not being directly linked to 4G. As well as Everything Everywhere/EEL/Orange PCS/T-Mobile ETC ETC.
So it can be rather confusing when viewing planning apps. many Councils do usually need informed of any new frequency being activated, with coverage mapping etc, some are more strict requiring planning to get involved and public to be consulted etc etc.
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Old 23-12-2016, 06:53
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Gavin. These red dots are actually working or at least what you can expect as opposed 'planned'? I'm in the YO area and looks like my local mast has been enabled for 800. Thanks for the map

I assume I need a VoLTE compatible handset on EE's approved list before I can use 800Mhz even for data?

If so that's my sim free HTC 10 out...
So on this subject I'm just at the end of my sim only Voda contract and seriously considering EE. I've been trying EE on payg but with my moto x style that isn't compatible with EE VoLTE and 800, or at least isn't supported by them.

I've been looking at a Galaxy S7 and on EE website it says only phones supplied by them are compatible with VoLTE, wifi calling etc. So one of the supported phones is the Galaxy S7. My question is if I bought one sim free or indeed bought one either sim free or on contract from such as Carphone Warehouse would it be compatible with EE VoLTE, wifi calling and their 800? I usually buy my phone outright then go sim only - don't really like 24 month contracts. I've been looking at the S7 (none edge) as it's a little smaller and alot less cumbersome then my current moto x style.

Thanks for any advice.
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Old 23-12-2016, 07:46
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Gavin. These red dots are actually working or at least what you can expect as opposed 'planned'? I'm in the YO area and looks like my local mast has been enabled for 800. Thanks for the map



So on this subject I'm just at the end of my sim only Voda contract and seriously considering EE. I've been trying EE on payg but with my moto x style that isn't compatible with EE VoLTE and 800, or at least isn't supported by them.

I've been looking at a Galaxy S7 and on EE website it says only phones supplied by them are compatible with VoLTE, wifi calling etc. So one of the supported phones is the Galaxy S7. My question is if I bought one sim free or indeed bought one either sim free or on contract from such as Carphone Warehouse would it be compatible with EE VoLTE, wifi calling and their 800? I usually buy my phone outright then go sim only - don't really like 24 month contracts. I've been looking at the S7 (none edge) as it's a little smaller and alot less cumbersome then my current moto x style.

Thanks for any advice.
VoLTE (and therefore 800 access)- Not officially but has been working on Nouget Beta so 99% sure it will in the future officially
Wifi Calling - Sim Free S7s work
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Old 23-12-2016, 09:06
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Unless Three pull their finger out and start getting some capacity rolled out as well I can see the only contenders going forward being EE and VF.
Also they need to stop with the childish advertising. It's pathetic.
Jackson is, well, there are no words.
The 'yoof' speak on the website is appalling beyond words. I think somewhere there is a reference to kicking 'ass' or 'butt' or something.
Frankly at the moment they are a joke.
Someone needs to do something and quick!
Childish advertising sucks. #makeitshite
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Old 23-12-2016, 09:37
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Thanks Gavin, merry Christmas
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Old 23-12-2016, 09:46
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Sorry to be a pain.. could you do AB & EH postcodes. I know Scotland is a bit weird. Just trying to figure out how up to date the "map" data actually is to reality.
AB: http://gdurl.com/A9Px
EH: http://gdurl.com/Cgsr
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Old 23-12-2016, 09:47
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Gavin. These red dots are actually working or at least what you can expect as opposed 'planned'? I'm in the YO area and looks like my local mast has been enabled for 800. Thanks for the map
Sorry, I cant quite work out if that is a question or not?!
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Old 23-12-2016, 14:25
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Sorry, I cant quite work out if that is a question or not?!
Yes! Kind of a question not well put. Do the red dots signify that is where 800 is enabled and available, subject to having the right phone from EE?
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Old 23-12-2016, 14:30
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Yes! Kind of a question not well put. Do the red dots signify that is where 800 is enabled and available, subject to having the right phone from EE?
I believe that's the case, darker red denotes a stronger signal, paler red denotes weaker signal.
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Old 23-12-2016, 16:45
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I've been looking at a Galaxy S7 and on EE website it says only phones supplied by them are compatible with VoLTE, wifi calling etc. So one of the supported phones is the Galaxy S7. My question is if I bought one sim free or indeed bought one either sim free or on contract from such as Carphone Warehouse would it be compatible with EE VoLTE, wifi calling and their 800?
The current (non beta) generic UK firmware (BTU) supports wifi calling but not VoLTE.

You can however use Odin to install the EE firmware (EVR) without voiding the warranty and that will support VoLTE. That's what I have done and my S7 can use their 800.
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Old 23-12-2016, 17:43
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Many of the sites just switched on were already done under the guise of "Three" or MBNL, the latter as part of mast upgrades in general despite them not being directly linked to 4G. As well as Everything Everywhere/EEL/Orange PCS/T-Mobile ETC ETC.
So it can be rather confusing when viewing planning apps. many Councils do usually need informed of any new frequency being activated, with coverage mapping etc, some are more strict requiring planning to get involved and public to be consulted etc etc.
Look at this example then Lucan. why hasn't EE added 800mhz to its own plan but 3 have?

https://www.herefordshire.gov.uk/pla...ails?id=162899
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Old 23-12-2016, 18:16
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Look at this example then Lucan. why hasn't EE added 800mhz to its own plan but 3 have?

https://www.herefordshire.gov.uk/pla...ails?id=162899
If Three keep adding more 4G800 to their sites and EE do not then very soon Three might take over the coverage spread. It is very odd why EE would not add any 4G800 on the sites as I have seen here around Reading planning apps with same thing happening
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Old 23-12-2016, 18:27
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If Three keep adding more 4G800 to their sites and EE do not then very soon Three might take over the coverage spread. It is very odd why EE would not add any 4G800 on the sites as I have seen here around Reading planning apps with same thing happening
You could you know be patient.
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Old 23-12-2016, 18:39
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I believe that's the case, darker red denotes a stronger signal, paler red denotes weaker signal.
OK, good. Would seem I live in some strong red dots on the YO map. Local phone masts are tagged onto local radio mast that towers up on wold top above us and beams across Vale ofYork and beyond to Liverpool I expect if it can bounce over Pennines

The current (non beta) generic UK firmware (BTU) supports wifi calling but not VoLTE.

You can however use Odin to install the EE firmware (EVR) without voiding the warranty and that will support VoLTE. That's what I have done and my S7 can use their 800.
Right, thanks. That's the info I was looking for. I'll buy a sim free S7 and use on Voda for the minute then maybe port to an EE sim only contract. Vodafone aren't to shabby around here and was up Skipton and beyond and was surprised how Voda 4G coverage has spread up there from my last visit. I was hoping S7's would be a cheaper by now but still good money.
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Old 23-12-2016, 19:06
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well I hope this doesn't anger the any forum ghosts of Christmas past, but there doesn't seem to be any network Christmas upgrade freeze here today as checked my other half's iPhone 6s tonight in the usual 4g/3g blackspot (indoors anywhere) an expected to see the standard GPRS.. but no 2 blobs of 4g (-105db) checked on field test mode and indeed it was band 20, flawless reception throughout the house.
as its not my phone I could tell quite which mast it was but as the local 2g mast still looks a mouldy as ever I'm guessing it a high up mast at loggerheads about 3-4 miles away as three have 800mhz on that mast already and it gives around the same signal strength.. speedtest was around 11mbps.. not bad!
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Old 23-12-2016, 19:09
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The current (non beta) generic UK firmware (BTU) supports wifi calling but not VoLTE.

You can however use Odin to install the EE firmware (EVR) without voiding the warranty and that will support VoLTE. That's what I have done and my S7 can use their 800.
I installed EVR firmware on my Sim Free S7 Flat but the S7 flat I have is the dual sim model and doesn't work great with the dual sim variant of S7 therefore i'm flashing back to BTU, going to root and then hopefully see if I can tinker with the CSC settings to get VoLTE, wish me luck!
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Old 23-12-2016, 19:50
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You could you know be patient.
Did not get that?
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Old 23-12-2016, 20:22
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Just as some sites are getting 3 800 and not EE 800, some are getting EE 800 and not 3 800. And some are planned to get one operator, and then gain the other shortly afterwards.
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Old 23-12-2016, 20:30
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Just as some sites are getting 3 800 and not EE 800, some are getting EE 800 and not 3 800. And some are planned to get one operator, and then gain the other shortly afterwards.
But Pedro how will they add the othe operator after the plnning app is just for Three adding 4G800 and see antenas just Three 800 . How will EE 4G800 be added on the site
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Old 23-12-2016, 20:42
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But Pedro how will they add the othe operator after the plnning app is just for Three adding 4G800 and see antenas just Three 800 . How will EE 4G800 be added on the site
May not need planning for second operator add. Since 800 already there.
They both use the same antennas (normally). Their RF signals are normally combined into one input.
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Old 23-12-2016, 20:46
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May not need planning for second operator add. Since 800 already there.
They both use the same antennas (normally). Their RF signals are normally combined into one input.

Thanks Devon did not know that. So if EE has also 4G800 on site Three can add later on
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Old 23-12-2016, 21:03
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Thanks Devon did not know that. So if EE has also 4G800 on site Three can add later on
Yes. They would install their cabs or add 800 RFUs if available slots in existing cab then they would install a combiner if not there allready. The combiner takes the 4 RF cables from both EE and Three and outputs them as a single pair of cables carrying both network's 800MHz signals to the existing antenna.
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Old 24-12-2016, 01:22
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Just a quick question; is there a delay between the api information being updated to the coverage showing on the coverage map and also the coverage being physically available.

Just noticed today that my home postcode is now showing 3 bars of 4G800; which was updated on Wednesday at 12am.... however leaving the house this morning no additional 4G coverage and the coverage map has also not been updated.

Has others noticed a delay between the api information and the 'go live'/map change?

Thanks in advance; I'm in the middle of the sticks for Christmas so can't test atm
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