I opened this thread to say exactly the same thing. That, and the Nissan Micra and Fiat 500.

Aside from the things already mentioned, whenever I see a car on a cold day with only a tiny area of the windscreen cleared, it's almost always one of those three types.

Just this morning I drove into my work car park behind a Jazz with just the driver's side and front windows cleared, with no attempt made on the back windows or rear windscreen.

Audis, BMWs overtake at speed on blind bends, constantly on the country roads round here. It's not that they're more noticeable because bigger. It just is those particular cars.

Also the number of times on a narrow lane by our house with passing points, we've been forced in our crappy Corsa to drive on the grass verge by some people carrier/tank/4 wheel drive of every make. You paid for the massive thing that supposedly goes off-road. So why are you scared to go off road but make cars half that size and with no 4 wheel drive do the driving round you?

Also, Citroens of any kind. Seem to attract the young and inexperienced drivers round here.

And our nuts neighbour has a Mazda 6. He thinks he's a boy racer but oddly drives like a pensioner. Now whenever I see a Mazda I always assume the driver is an idiot. Which is highly unfair. He had an Audi before that. I've no idea where he gets the money from.

Be careful.
The 40mph brigade will be along shortly to tell you "it's a limit, not a target" whilst completely missing the point that they should be making progress where possible not dawdling 20mph under the limit and pissing off the 10's of cars stuck in a queue behind them!

Changes every week depending on what I see. This week (so far) it's an idiot in a Land Rover, last week it was a moron in an Audi.

Being aware of what is going on well in front of you (e.g. observing what that car was doing) is part of good driving anticipation. I suspect from your comment that you are a driver who grips the steering wheel firmly for grim life and stares straight ahead.

As I have a DSG semi automatic, I can indeed grip the wheel firmly at all times.

"The lines aren't there for decoration you ****!", "We were waiting for the lights to change, why has this taken you by surprise?", "You are ambling down a slip road at 30mph to join a 70mph road, die you ****er!", "I'm overtaking this truck, I'll pull in when I'm finished, your Brains Missing Within being 2" off my back bumper will make not one iota of difference to how long I take."
And that was just today, got to stop talking to myself when driving 😃

They are not statistics that mean anything at all.

As for informing families of deaths, I have no idea what you mean. I've done that job many times, and the reasons are wide and varied. Speed does not make it any worse, and is not the most common factor. I've worked as a Coroners Officer, and attended many fatal accidents, and there was never any suggestion that German cars being driven badly was a higher factor than anything else.

You clearly have a beef with these cars, and are on the look out for them. How many do you actually see on the road every day, and how many of them are being driven properly, or dont you notice that?

I see bad driving all the time, and because of my history, I'm looking out for it more than some I suppose, and I see it from all manner of vehicles, and the common factor is people, not makes of car.

As for speeding alone being bad driving, we'll not skirt it, because it isn't, if done properly. Exceeding the speed limit is an absolute offence, but that doesn't automatically make it careless, or dangerous. I was taught to drive at high speed, and could do so without it being dangerous.

If someone overtakes you on the motorway at 80mph, that doesn't make them a bad driver, unless other factors come into play that make it dangerous.

I agree with DP in that its more the person than the car but obviously a more powerful car gives more opportunity to f--- up.

When I was in hospital I was chatting with another guy and he told me that him and the mrs were driving home after a nice night out and he's a bus driver so pretty well trained on spotting idiots and this car came bombing it along the country road probably trying to hit warp speed and just clipped their car and went into a hedge. He called out police etc and it was pretty easy to find the car but it being pitch black they couldn't find the driver.

They found him next day 30ft up in a tree singing to the choir eternal, since he had to give evidence at the coroners he found out he was 18 and shall we say drunk as a skunk and not wearing a seatbelt and estimated to be doing about 90.

Any car driven by a taxi driver. At least around where I live. They are obnoxious, impolite, inconsiderate, and sometimes dangerous, road users.

DP I have to say I`m rather disappointed in you, not answering the question(s) I mean. You should be a politician, particularly a Brexiteer.

And I have NOT "got a beef with those particular type of cars" (well OK I have with Audi R8s, nearly all R8 drivers are cretins), I`ve got a beef with aggressive / selfish / dangerous driving, of which German cars are over represented. I had a feeling this was the case for years, eventually I decided to do some research, now I know this to be a fact.

I must agree that many taxis are driven very badly, which is surprising considering their insurance must be very expensive.

Ask a sensible question then. There is no evidence, apart from anecdotal, that German cars are ruder, or worse in any way than others. My car is unmarked, I have full no claims bonus and no points on my license, yet drive a 250BHP german car. Am I automatically a bad driver? I have to admit I have seen a few examples of ill mannered and pushy Audis, BMWs etc, but as driving faults go, they are not at the top of my most disliked list. That would go to drunk or drugged up nutters, usually those people drive older cars, but random makes. And I take special action, whatever I can, to keep clear of cars with multiple accident damage. Plainly they don't care. All other driving 'faults' are just irritations. Plenty of idiots out there, you need to re-think your priorities and try to take jealousy out of the equation.

I agree that going over the limit isn't necessarily bad driving or instantly dangerous. However, doing it because your not paying attention (on phone, daydreaming, not checking speedo, don't care) can't be considered good driving either.

That would take it into the careless/dangerous category, which would apply at any speed though.

Your research means nothing, because you are looking out for German cars that overtake you. You have not included figures for German cars driving properly.

You have also ignored everything I've said about my experience, and my comments that exceeding the speed limit does not mean the driving is dangerous.

How many Audi R8 drivers do you know in the country, and how can you class nearly all of them as cretins?

Well it does make them a bad driver as they aren't observing the speed limit.

Including "clever" lousy drivers who take it upon themselves to try to slow you down.
I'd love to see the advanced driving test made compulsory. Sort out the men from the boys

They are committing an offence of speeding. That does mean they are driving dangerously, or carelessly.

People driving at 40mph on a main road, holding up traffic for no reason is bad driving, but they are 20mph below the limit.

Me too. Standards would improve beyond belief.

They could be not paying attention, on phone or don't care, daydreaming....same as if they were going over the limit. Not good driving or dangerous.

There may be a reason, and that it is why it is important to know why someone is doing a particular speed.

It's not enough to say that someone exceeding the speed limit is a bad driver, or driving dangerously though.

Staying below the speed limit, with inappropriate speed causes far more problems than exceeding the limit, and that includes going too fast, or too slow for the conditions, but within the limit.

You cant class exceeding the limit as dangerous or careless, without there being other factors, that is why there are separate offences to cover all eventualities.

As I said, it makes them a bad driver regardless of whether you believe them to be one.

Your subjective outlook is trumped by the rules of the road which they have ignored.

I've driven according to the road conditions, and other road users, all my driving career.

That often means I am driving in technical breach of the Road Traffic Act Laws.
I've only been 'caught' once. in 35 years. (for doing 62mph in a temporary 50mph, on an empty motorway)
And I only slowed down from 90mph because the Gantry restriction came on.

I don't do it, if t is, in my view, not safe.

Bad drivers are the ones who think that obeying the law at all times, without exception, is the only way to drive.

More problems, like what? Traffic jams?

Again, poor driving and more of an annoyance. Speeding is still poor driving and potentially more dangerous.