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A simple routine danced really well, with in depth knowledge of technique, can be stunning, but much of Strictly is a compromise between difficulty, technique and performance. Also, what is a mistake? In Strictly it tends to be defined as going wrong in the choreography. There are in fact lots of unnoticed mistakes such as incorrect footwork, wrong body turn, incorrect foot alignments etc.
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No it doesn't matter how many mistakes Ed makes as far as I'm concerned .Any more than it matters how many repetitive negative threads about him pop up by the same few people . I'll still be voting for him .
He is entertaining me , and that's what I want on a Saturday evening . He is also improving hugely and very dedicated and deserves his place . |
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Good point. I suspect Len is best placed to notice these but were he to point them out he would be booed to hell and back!
I get the impression - and I may be wrong - that the BBC is pushing for Ed to win and I don't think it is fair. Friday panels, judges, guests on ITT all are promoting Ed. I would love Danny, Claudia, Louise or the Judge to win - much better dancers and they are all working as hard as Ed. |
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I'm beginning to think that the mistakes should be pointed out. Yes, Ed is progressing, but not at the rate of someone like Rob Rinder. While Strictly is considered light entertainment, it is based on dance and I would hate to see a better dancer leave because Ed isn't in the dance off.
I get the impression - and I may be wrong - that the BBC is pushing for Ed to win and I don't think it is fair. Friday panels, judges, guests on ITT all are promoting Ed. I would love Danny, Claudia, Louise or the Judge to win - much better dancers and they are all working as hard as Ed. As to Ed, well I support him and Robert and prefer them to the better dancers because they start from further back in learning dances. I think the argument that were it to be a dance programme then all the celebs would have to start at the same level kicks into touch "better dancers" winning. If a learner cannot win then don't select celebs to participate who are learners. It would be disrespectful to never have a learner win because then it would mean they are there to be 'entertainment' monkeys, akin to those who used to be in the stocks so the public could jeer and throw rotting vegetables at them. |
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I'm beginning to think that the mistakes should be pointed out. Yes, Ed is progressing, but not at the rate of someone like Rob Rinder. While Strictly is considered light entertainment, it is based on dance and I would hate to see a better dancer leave because Ed isn't in the dance off.I
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No it doesn't matter how many mistakes Ed makes as far as I'm concerned .Any more than it matters how many repetitive negative threads about him pop up by the same few people . I'll still be voting for him .
He is entertaining me , and that's what I want on a Saturday evening . He is also improving hugely and very dedicated and deserves his place . Quote:
I can see that were they to allow Len, or one of the others, to list what's wrong then judges' comments would take a longer slice of time. Also, would viewers want to hear a litany of mistakes attributed to their favourite dancer who may have danced their socks off?
As to Ed, well I support him and Robert and prefer them to the better dancers because they start from further back in learning dances. I think the argument that were it to be a dance programme then all the celebs would have to start at the same level kicks into touch "better dancers" winning. If a learner cannot win then don't select celebs to participate who are learners. It would be disrespectful to never have a learner win because then it would mean they are there to be 'entertainment' monkeys, akin to those who used to be in the stocks so the public could jeer and throw rotting vegetables at them. Quote:
Yes but if Ed's knocked out, Rinder will be in the same position - improving but not the best dancer because he'll never become as good as a Danny in the space of 13 weeks. Should he leave next? I mean if that's the case what's the point of inviting dance novices onto the show or even bothering with the full 13 weeks - might as well have the final on week one between Danny and Louise.
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Yes but if Ed's knocked out, Rinder will be in the same position - improving but not the best dancer because he'll never become as good as a Danny in the space of 13 weeks. Should he leave next? I mean if that's the case what's the point of inviting dance novices onto the show or even bothering with the full 13 weeks - might as well have the final on week one between Danny and Louise.
That would be effin' boring.
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Yes but if Ed's knocked out, Rinder will be in the same position - improving but not the best dancer because he'll never become as good as a Danny in the space of 13 weeks. Should he leave next? I mean if that's the case what's the point of inviting dance novices onto the show or even bothering with the full 13 weeks - might as well have the final on week one between Danny and Louise.
The best 'technical' dancer doesn't always win (Natalie + Pixie for example). I'm not an Ed fan, personally, but I can choose whether to watch him, or not, and also choose who I vote for. And everyone else is free to choose for themselves too, we are, after all, invited to vote for our favourites. If that means Ed lifts the glitterball I'd be delighted for Katya and disappointed for others. If my personal favourite went out at the semi and Ed were still in, I doubt I'd bother to watch the final, but again, that's my choice. |
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Ed could come on and lie on the floor kicking his legs about and the judges, bar Craig, will still score him a 7.
I cannot believe Len gave him an 8 last week and gave Danny a 9. Its a joke now. |
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That would be effin' boring.![]() Quote:
A mix of levels and a mix of personalities allows for 'someone for everyone'
The best 'technical' dancer doesn't always win (Natalie + Pixie for example). I'm not an Ed fan, personally, but I can choose whether to watch him, or not, and also choose who I vote for. And everyone else is free to choose for themselves too, we are, after all, invited to vote for our favourites. If that means Ed lifts the glitterball I'd be delighted for Katya and disappointed for others. If my personal favourite went out at the semi and Ed were still in, I doubt I'd bother to watch the final, but again, that's my choice. |
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Apart from that lift, I don't remember Ed making that many actual mistakes as in getting the routine wrong or going blank.
What I get from him is dance-based entertainment. And I reckon that dance-based entertainment is the name of the game. I would rather watch Ed over and again rather than the technically flawless but joyless Danny, for example. |
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Apart from that lift, I don't remember Ed making that many actual mistakes as in getting the routine wrong or going blank.
What I get from him is dance-based entertainment. And I reckon that dance-based entertainment is the name of the game. I would rather watch Ed over and again rather than the technically flawless but joyless Danny, for example. |
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Apart from that lift, I don't remember Ed making that many actual mistakes as in getting the routine wrong or going blank.
What I get from him is dance-based entertainment. And I reckon that dance-based entertainment is the name of the game. I would rather watch Ed over and again rather than the technically flawless but joyless Danny, for example. |
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No it doesn't matter how many mistakes Ed makes as far as I'm concerned .Any more than it matters how many repetitive negative threads about him pop up by the same few people . I'll still be voting for him .
He is entertaining me , and that's what I want on a Saturday evening . He is also improving hugely and very dedicated and deserves his place . |
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the 'extra' dancers...will they be a complication we could do without??
ed and katya are enough for me! |
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I guess it depends what you look for in the guise of entertainment. I find a flawless dance entertaining but then i watch Strictly for amazing dances, not joke dances. While some people prefer the joke acts.
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I agree it doesn't have to be one or t'other. The contestants I always look forward to seeing are Danny and Ore because they are naturally great dancers, and Ed because he is such fun.
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he was inviting a cold response, but this was frisian (ツ)
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I always favour the underdog, Ed really put everything into his dancing, mistakes, so what
nobody is perfect. Come on Ed, I live just down the road from Blackpool in Cleveleys, so I hope you can hear all your fans from Cleveleys cheering you on. |
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At this stage, I think it does. He's had two weeks where he hasn't gone wrong and I am sure that has boosted his vote. It will help him if there are ties judge’s scores above him. They will help him more than any lack of mistakes.
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I hope Big Ed wins and it will teach the BBC a lesson.
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I think some of the issue is that viewers see the judges marking some contestants far more generously which they don't like and so they will vote for the ones they see as being "picked on" . Take tonight Eds jive was very poor compared to some we have seen so far but compared to Claudia jive tonight it wasn't that bad, at least they were in sync for most of the time even if his version of the footwork wasn't the same as hers whereas Claudia jive was completely out of time and sync yet the judges praised her to the hilt
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I think some of the issue is that viewers see the judges marking some contestants far more generously which they don't like and so they will vote for the ones they see as being "picked on" . Take tonight Eds jive was very poor compared to some we have seen so far but compared to Claudia jive tonight it wasn't that bad, at least they were in sync for most of the time even if his version of the footwork wasn't the same as hers whereas Claudia jive was completely out of time and sync yet the judges praised her to the hilt
Nice of the beeb to give him another side by side happy hands and feet number but please all the others have improved beyond Ed |
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A mix of levels and a mix of personalities allows for 'someone for everyone'
The best 'technical' dancer doesn't always win (Natalie + Pixie for example). I'm not an Ed fan, personally, but I can choose whether to watch him, or not, and also choose who I vote for. And everyone else is free to choose for themselves too, we are, after all, invited to vote for our favourites. If that means Ed lifts the glitterball I'd be delighted for Katya and disappointed for others. If my personal favourite went out at the semi and Ed were still in, I doubt I'd bother to watch the final, but again, that's my choice. |
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Didn't vote for Ed in the end to tonight. The magic was missing, I think he peaked last week. I'd be alright with him bowing out at Blackpool.
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That would be effin' boring.
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