I don't get the Marlon hate, I really like him- he's a genuinely nice, relatable human being, prone to upset when under pressure like the best of us and his relationship with Carly, though unbelievable, has developed quite nicely and they have a natural chemistry. Much rather Marlon than his ridiculous pet oaf Paddy, I think he really drags Marlon down. Marlon's friendship with Rhona is far better viewing
Emmerdale-why the Marlon dislike?
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Originally Posted by GrahameSteele:
“Yes I know its fiction, but i suspect people have this attitude in real life too.”
“Yes I know its fiction, but i suspect people have this attitude in real life too.”
I don't
Originally Posted by albiex:
“True, but DS posters don't do 'nice',”
“True, but DS posters don't do 'nice',”
T hat really isn't fair Albiex. To me it's s the difference between a believable character and one is portrayed in a very broad sense. Marlon is almost a ' comedy'character. That' s fine if you find him funny but I don't. I actually do like him when we see him serving in the pub, interacting with his family, when he seems much more calm. It's s when he's s madly in love or being an idiot with Paddy that he irritates me. Compare him to Finn, who is a lovely guy and also very realistic. There seems to be a fashion now for dismissing anyone on DS who disagrees with the critic' s opinions. You like a villainous character, so you must have questionable morals
You like a couple, you must be a fanboy or fangirlYour opinion is popular on here so you're part of a clique . People are a lot more complicated than that! Heck, in reality I would find Can incredibly annoying!
Originally Posted by Glendarroch:
“T hat really isn't fair Albiex. To me it's s the difference between a believable character and one is portrayed in a very broad sense. Marlon is almost a ' comedy'character. That' s fine if you find him funny but I don't. I actually do like him when we see him serving in the pub, interacting with his family, when he seems much more calm. It's s when he's s madly in love or being an idiot with Paddy that he irritates me. Compare him to Finn, who is a lovely guy and also very realistic. There seems to be a fashion now for dismissing anyone on DS who disagrees with the critic' s opinions. You like a villainous character, so you must have questionable moralsYou like a couple, you must be a fanboy or fangirlYour opinion is popular on here so you're part of a clique . People are a lot more complicated than that! Heck, in reality I would find Can incredibly annoying!”
“T hat really isn't fair Albiex. To me it's s the difference between a believable character and one is portrayed in a very broad sense. Marlon is almost a ' comedy'character. That' s fine if you find him funny but I don't. I actually do like him when we see him serving in the pub, interacting with his family, when he seems much more calm. It's s when he's s madly in love or being an idiot with Paddy that he irritates me. Compare him to Finn, who is a lovely guy and also very realistic. There seems to be a fashion now for dismissing anyone on DS who disagrees with the critic' s opinions. You like a villainous character, so you must have questionable morals
You like a couple, you must be a fanboy or fangirlYour opinion is popular on here so you're part of a clique . People are a lot more complicated than that! Heck, in reality I would find Can incredibly annoying!”
Bib no it isn't and it's also hypocritical. It's fine for albie to dislike characters but anyone who doesn't like who she likes is allowed be insulted by her.
I'm not surprised at all to see that comment
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“I do.
There are loads of 'nice' characters I like including Finn, Dan, Diane, Ashley and Harriet. I used to like Marlon and Laurel and don't mind Rhona. I also liked John Barton and Chrissie before they turned her into a bitch.”
“I do.
There are loads of 'nice' characters I like including Finn, Dan, Diane, Ashley and Harriet. I used to like Marlon and Laurel and don't mind Rhona. I also liked John Barton and Chrissie before they turned her into a bitch.”
Yes, I like all of those in your first sentence and John Barton was another favourite. I also quite liked Katie. Add to that Megan, Rishi, Vic, Chas and Zak ( I know the last too have done awful things at times but overall their hearts are in the right place). Adam's s turning into a nice guy as well.
All of those are nice characters and I like all of them. I don't like Marlon and Paddy being silly but that is because I don't like people being silly in real life!
I agree that when he is in the pub and just generally being someone getting on with life and his job he is lovely. I am sorry that Harriet doesn't get some more stories although not ones like her supposed attraction to Bob which was not nice.
My pet hate is Sandy who is a character who, for me, adds nothing to village life although I am glad that Freddie Jones has found a niche and I miss his inter-action with Edna.
I agree that when he is in the pub and just generally being someone getting on with life and his job he is lovely. I am sorry that Harriet doesn't get some more stories although not ones like her supposed attraction to Bob which was not nice.
My pet hate is Sandy who is a character who, for me, adds nothing to village life although I am glad that Freddie Jones has found a niche and I miss his inter-action with Edna.
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“I do.
There are loads of 'nice' characters I like including Finn, Dan, Diane, Ashley and Harriet. I used to like Marlon and Laurel and don't mind Rhona. I also liked John Barton and Chrissie before they turned her into a bitch.”
“I do.
There are loads of 'nice' characters I like including Finn, Dan, Diane, Ashley and Harriet. I used to like Marlon and Laurel and don't mind Rhona. I also liked John Barton and Chrissie before they turned her into a bitch.”
Yep, I like all of those as well. I also like Vic and Adam as well, they're reasonably decent people. And I like Leyla and Jacob and Bernice and Belle and Moira and Vanessa and Bob and Carly and Megan and Priya and Rishi (sometimes), and Harriet and Pearl and Ronnie.
OK, some of those have done some bad stuff, but they're OK people. Let's face it, on a soap, who hasn't behaved like a total arse at one time or another.
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“I do.
There are loads of 'nice' characters I like including Finn, Dan, Diane, Ashley and Harriet. I used to like Marlon and Laurel and don't mind Rhona. I also liked John Barton and Chrissie before they turned her into a bitch.”
“I do.
There are loads of 'nice' characters I like including Finn, Dan, Diane, Ashley and Harriet. I used to like Marlon and Laurel and don't mind Rhona. I also liked John Barton and Chrissie before they turned her into a bitch.”
To be honest I thought it would be a really tough call to find a load of nice characters on Emmerdale as they have all had their ups and downs but I suppose they do exist and I realise I like(d) at least some of them too
I suppose I just like well rounded interesting characters. Someone like Edna is a good example for me in that she is relentlessly nice (or was
) but she was also interesting and difficult and to my surprise I actually quite liked her. On the surface I would never have dreamed of liking someone like her but there you go. The trouble with Marlon is that he isn't remotely interesting. He is 1 dimensional and has barley changed since his introduction. Maybe he could work as a comedy character but unfortunatley he isn't funny either just totally embarrassing.
Anyway clearly not liking Marlon has got nothing to do with not liking nice and everything to do with being discerning and wanting a bit more than a 1 dimensional pantomime and not funny character, well in my opinion anyway.
Originally Posted by GrahameSteele:
“Anyone who is nice is hated on DS, tells you something about the forum members does it not?”
“Anyone who is nice is hated on DS, tells you something about the forum members does it not?”
Oh I so agree.
Originally Posted by pollysue1939:
“Oh I so agree.”
“Oh I so agree.”
You didn't read any one else's posts then?j
It's s clearly not true. Marlon is not disliked because he's s nice. There are plenty of nice, or at least relatively nice ( given they are soap characters and live by different standards from most of us) who are clearly well liked. Marlon is not a believable forty something, and he can be very irritating. THAT' s why many don't like him, not anything to do with how nice or otherwise he is.Also it IS fiction and you do find that in fiction ,it's often the villains and anti- heroes who are most popular, simply because it's s safe within those realms, to like these characters. In reality you would abhor their actions because you see the terrible consequences they have, and you know that people have to live with these. Fiction gives us a release and a chance to fantasise a bit, it does not mean that we have no morals or discretion about how we treat people and interact with them in real life.
Saying that, I always try not to be judgemental and see the good in people in reality, regardless of whether they are criminals. I live in quite a small town, where you learn to rub shoulders with all sorts
I judge the actions but I can still see likeable qualities in the people.
Originally Posted by trevor tiger:
“To be honest I thought it would be a really tough call to find a load of nice characters on Emmerdale as they have all had their ups and downs but I suppose they do exist and I realise I like(d) at least some of them too
I suppose I just like well rounded interesting characters. Someone like Edna is a good example for me in that she is relentlessly nice (or was) but she was also interesting and difficult and to my surprise I actually quite liked her. On the surface I would never have dreamed of liking someone like her but there you go.
The trouble with Marlon is that he isn't remotely interesting. He is 1 dimensional and has barley changed since his introduction. Maybe he could work as a comedy character but unfortunatley he isn't funny either just totally embarrassing.
Anyway clearly not liking Marlon has got nothing to do with not liking nice and everything to do with being discerning and wanting a bit more than a 1 dimensional pantomime and not funny character, well in my opinion anyway.”
“To be honest I thought it would be a really tough call to find a load of nice characters on Emmerdale as they have all had their ups and downs but I suppose they do exist and I realise I like(d) at least some of them too
I suppose I just like well rounded interesting characters. Someone like Edna is a good example for me in that she is relentlessly nice (or was
) but she was also interesting and difficult and to my surprise I actually quite liked her. On the surface I would never have dreamed of liking someone like her but there you go. The trouble with Marlon is that he isn't remotely interesting. He is 1 dimensional and has barley changed since his introduction. Maybe he could work as a comedy character but unfortunatley he isn't funny either just totally embarrassing.
Anyway clearly not liking Marlon has got nothing to do with not liking nice and everything to do with being discerning and wanting a bit more than a 1 dimensional pantomime and not funny character, well in my opinion anyway.”
I agree, although I don't hate him in general -he works fine as a background character, being a Dad, working in the pub, it's s when the overacting and flailing about start that he's no longer watchable IMO. I don't t blame the actor though, I think that's the character.
Originally Posted by Peter_Gazzard:
“he's not that bad IMO”
“he's not that bad IMO”
Have you been watching Emmerdale long?
When Marlon doesn't have much going on and his scenes are just kitchen food preparing/serving in the pub he is just about bearable.
However whenever he gets a story he quickly becomes extremely annoying! His awkward, bumbling routine that is meant to be comical, stopped being comical in about 1999...
The main reason I dislike Marlon is because he is a selfish man baby (much like his moronic best friend and other half of his supposed comedy act Paddy) who acts like a child when things don't go his own way..... for instance.
When Paddy and Rhona wanted to go and live in New Zealand and make a new start- Marlon majorly kicked off as it would mean his son Leo would be going with them, he fought Paddy and Rhona over it and even went through court about it. - he eventually won and got his way because his son was so precious to him.
However, when that same child was having his christening Marlon almost did not go because he was sulking and having a strop about Laurel not wanting to be with him (or something like that) and she was going to be at the christening!
So his precious son who he loves so much he was willing to miss the christening just because he couldn't get his own way with someone else.
He is a horrible person.
Originally Posted by Ancalagon:
“Have you been watching Emmerdale long?
When Marlon doesn't have much going on and his scenes are just kitchen food preparing/serving in the pub he is just about bearable.
However whenever he gets a story he quickly becomes extremely annoying! His awkward, bumbling routine that is meant to be comical, stopped being comical in about 1999...
The main reason I dislike Marlon is because he is a selfish man baby (much like his moronic best friend and other half of his supposed comedy act Paddy) who acts like a child when things don't go his own way..... for instance.
When Paddy and Rhona wanted to go and live in New Zealand and make a new start- Marlon majorly kicked off as it would mean his son Leo would be going with them, he fought Paddy and Rhona over it and even went through court about it. - he eventually won and got his way because his son was so precious to him.
However, when that same child was having his christening Marlon almost did not go because he was sulking and having a strop about Laurel not wanting to be with him (or something like that) and she was going to be at the christening!
So his precious son who he loves so much he was willing to miss the christening just because he couldn't get his own way with someone else.
He is a horrible person.”
“Have you been watching Emmerdale long?
When Marlon doesn't have much going on and his scenes are just kitchen food preparing/serving in the pub he is just about bearable.
However whenever he gets a story he quickly becomes extremely annoying! His awkward, bumbling routine that is meant to be comical, stopped being comical in about 1999...
The main reason I dislike Marlon is because he is a selfish man baby (much like his moronic best friend and other half of his supposed comedy act Paddy) who acts like a child when things don't go his own way..... for instance.
When Paddy and Rhona wanted to go and live in New Zealand and make a new start- Marlon majorly kicked off as it would mean his son Leo would be going with them, he fought Paddy and Rhona over it and even went through court about it. - he eventually won and got his way because his son was so precious to him.
However, when that same child was having his christening Marlon almost did not go because he was sulking and having a strop about Laurel not wanting to be with him (or something like that) and she was going to be at the christening!
So his precious son who he loves so much he was willing to miss the christening just because he couldn't get his own way with someone else.
He is a horrible person.”
To be fair I think the new Zealand issue was a perfectly reasonable issue for Marlon to kick off over. It's an issue facing many dads today where the motherboard their children has a new partner and wants to move away which is unfair on the dads themselves.
Saying that I agree with you that he is very selfish and despite what some say I don't think he's very nice at all.
Originally Posted by sorcha_healy27:
“To be fair I think the new Zealand issue was a perfectly reasonable issue for Marlon to kick off over. It's an issue facing many dads today where the motherboard their children has a new partner and wants to move away which is unfair on the dads themselves.
Saying that I agree with you that he is very selfish and despite what some say I don't think he's very nice at all.”
“To be fair I think the new Zealand issue was a perfectly reasonable issue for Marlon to kick off over. It's an issue facing many dads today where the motherboard their children has a new partner and wants to move away which is unfair on the dads themselves.
Saying that I agree with you that he is very selfish and despite what some say I don't think he's very nice at all.”
Oh yes, I totally agree the New Zealand thing was reasonable, I was trying to highlight though it seems to be only when it's convenient for him or if he's not getting his way, he desperately fought for his son- but then was willing to miss his son's christening because he wasn't getting his way with Laurel.
Originally Posted by Ancalagon:
“Oh yes, I totally agree the New Zealand thing was reasonable, I was trying to highlight though it seems to be only when it's convenient for him or if he's not getting his way, he desperately fought for his son- but then was willing to miss his son's christening because he wasn't getting his way with Laurel.”
“Oh yes, I totally agree the New Zealand thing was reasonable, I was trying to highlight though it seems to be only when it's convenient for him or if he's not getting his way, he desperately fought for his son- but then was willing to miss his son's christening because he wasn't getting his way with Laurel.”
Yes fair point. I do agree on the christening thing. He is very self centred
The person that said it's bandwagon jumping is spot on. Marlon and Paddy are both excellent characters and it's probably a bit also people trying to be different for the sake of it, as they're two popular characters.
It's a bit like Michelle in Corrie, although I'm convinced that one is more to do with people jealous of Kym Marsh.
It's a bit like Michelle in Corrie, although I'm convinced that one is more to do with people jealous of Kym Marsh.
Originally Posted by Kenzie70:
“The person that said it's bandwagon jumping is spot on. Marlon and Paddy are both excellent characters and it's probably a bit also people trying to be different for the sake of it, as they're two popular characters.
It's a bit like Michelle in Corrie, although I'm convinced that one is more to do with people jealous of Kym Marsh.”
“The person that said it's bandwagon jumping is spot on. Marlon and Paddy are both excellent characters and it's probably a bit also people trying to be different for the sake of it, as they're two popular characters.
It's a bit like Michelle in Corrie, although I'm convinced that one is more to do with people jealous of Kym Marsh.”
I'm very fond of Marlon too, for me he's the most enjoyable Dingle after Cain but i don't agree with this kind of silly comment. Everyone has their favourites or non-favourites.
Originally Posted by cyrilandshirley:
“He never develops. Ever.
What was funny in a guy in his twenties just seems cringey in a man in his forties. He's a great big self-involved man baby. He overdramatizes everything and makes it about him.
He's just stuck in a massive rut as a character, and I don't think he'll ever change, because the show writers seem to think there's something funny and appealing about it. I got sick of him a long time ago.”
“He never develops. Ever.
What was funny in a guy in his twenties just seems cringey in a man in his forties. He's a great big self-involved man baby. He overdramatizes everything and makes it about him.
He's just stuck in a massive rut as a character, and I don't think he'll ever change, because the show writers seem to think there's something funny and appealing about it. I got sick of him a long time ago.”
Couldn't have put it better myself. And he was utterly loathsome during his affair with Laurel while she was still married to Ashley. He showed his true colours then his Mr Nice Guy routine was shown to be an act. I was never a huge fan of his character but after that I couldn't stand him and still cant even now. I thoroughly enjoyed the breakdown of Marlon and Laurel's relationship - it couldn't have happened to a nicer couple.
Originally Posted by Kenzie70:
“The person that said it's bandwagon jumping is spot on. Marlon and Paddy are both excellent characters and it's probably a bit also people trying to be different for the sake of it, as they're two popular characters.
It's a bit like Michelle in Corrie, although I'm convinced that one is more to do with people jealous of Kym Marsh.”
“The person that said it's bandwagon jumping is spot on. Marlon and Paddy are both excellent characters and it's probably a bit also people trying to be different for the sake of it, as they're two popular characters.
It's a bit like Michelle in Corrie, although I'm convinced that one is more to do with people jealous of Kym Marsh.”
Well if we were all trying to be different we would hardly jump on a bandwagon would we?
If I was trying to be different I' d come on DS and state how much I loved Marlon! People have differences in opinion that's s all! Are they popular characters anyway?As for jealousy, if I don't like a fictional character it's s not because I'm jealous of the character or actor. The character is fictional, why would I be jealous of them? As for the actor, well I have no desire to be am actor or celebrity and I'm not the type to get jealous over looks!
Originally Posted by Kenzie70:
“The person that said it's bandwagon jumping is spot on. Marlon and Paddy are both excellent characters and it's probably a bit also people trying to be different for the sake of it, as they're two popular characters.
It's a bit like Michelle in Corrie, although I'm convinced that one is more to do with people jealous of Kym Marsh.”
“The person that said it's bandwagon jumping is spot on. Marlon and Paddy are both excellent characters and it's probably a bit also people trying to be different for the sake of it, as they're two popular characters.
It's a bit like Michelle in Corrie, although I'm convinced that one is more to do with people jealous of Kym Marsh.”
I really like Paddy, and find his relationship with Marlon actually quite nice. I just hate Marlon's overreactive tendencies. The arm waving and gurning is so off putting. He's just so OTT and his sarcastic 'wit' is just cringe. I hate how is always so 'woe is me' sometimes too, like get a grip you wet blanket!
As for Kym Marsh. I like her character in CS and think she's actually a decent actress considering her background. I have no issue with her in that sense at all. I just don't think that Kym does herself any favours at coming across as likeable. She's so opinionated and can actually be quite self righteous and nasty. Hating Michelle because you hate Kym Marsh though is pathetic there is a difference between the character and the actress.
Originally Posted by Kenzie70:
“The person that said it's bandwagon jumping is spot on. Marlon and Paddy are both excellent characters and it's probably a bit also people trying to be different for the sake of it, as they're two popular characters.
It's a bit like Michelle in Corrie, although I'm convinced that one is more to do with people jealous of Kym Marsh.”
“The person that said it's bandwagon jumping is spot on. Marlon and Paddy are both excellent characters and it's probably a bit also people trying to be different for the sake of it, as they're two popular characters.
It's a bit like Michelle in Corrie, although I'm convinced that one is more to do with people jealous of Kym Marsh.”
We have a good old laugh at Michelle's character (and Kym Marsh's lack of acting skills) in the CS SOR thread and I can assure you we aren't 'jealous' (isn't that what some daft teenagers say??) and we are capable of differentiating between real life and soaps.
I never actually used to mind Marlon until he got together with Laurel and from then on he (along with Laurel too to be honest) became increasingly unlikeable to the point I just wanted to vomit everytime their lovey dovey scenes came on. What made it worse was their storyline started demonising all the other characters to the point they were unreasonably out of character! All this just to convince us Maurel was an undying love story meant to be. (YUCK!)
Obviously Maurel aren't together anymore (thank God) but sadly the damage has been done and I haven't liked either of them since.
Doesn't help that the current, excellent Dementia storyline involving Ashley is a further reminder that Maurel never should've happened to begin with.
Obviously Maurel aren't together anymore (thank God) but sadly the damage has been done and I haven't liked either of them since.
Doesn't help that the current, excellent Dementia storyline involving Ashley is a further reminder that Maurel never should've happened to begin with.
Originally Posted by Glendarroch:
“You didn't read any one else's posts then?j It's s clearly not true. Marlon is not disliked because he's s nice. There are plenty of nice, or at least relatively nice ( given they are soap characters and live by different standards from most of us) who are clearly well liked. Marlon is not a believable forty something, and he can be very irritating. THAT' s why many don't like him, not anything to do with how nice or otherwise he is.”
“You didn't read any one else's posts then?j
It's s clearly not true. Marlon is not disliked because he's s nice. There are plenty of nice, or at least relatively nice ( given they are soap characters and live by different standards from most of us) who are clearly well liked. Marlon is not a believable forty something, and he can be very irritating. THAT' s why many don't like him, not anything to do with how nice or otherwise he is.”
Glad you said that. It's just so typical of DS that a load of people make posts about the "nice" characters they like, and then someone comes on and posts "Oh, I agree, no one likes nice characters."
Jeez, does no one actually read anyone else's posts any more?
Originally Posted by Dr K Noisewater:
“Couldn't have put it better myself. And he was utterly loathsome during his affair with Laurel while she was still married to Ashley. He showed his true colours then his Mr Nice Guy routine was shown to be an act. I was never a huge fan of his character but after that I couldn't stand him and still cant even now. I thoroughly enjoyed the breakdown of Marlon and Laurel's relationship - it couldn't have happened to a nicer couple.”
“Couldn't have put it better myself. And he was utterly loathsome during his affair with Laurel while she was still married to Ashley. He showed his true colours then his Mr Nice Guy routine was shown to be an act. I was never a huge fan of his character but after that I couldn't stand him and still cant even now. I thoroughly enjoyed the breakdown of Marlon and Laurel's relationship - it couldn't have happened to a nicer couple.”
Thing is, I can see that the show is trying to give us Marlon as a "decent bloke". I get that. He's not a villain, he's not violent. But just not being a villain doesn't make someone a nice person. Putting him in "comedy" scenes doesn't make him likeable. Only behaving like a really kind mature person makes someone likeable. Regardless of all the stuff with Laurel, he just doesn't seem likeable to me.
Let's face it, he just gets massively on my wick. We all have our triggers.
Lol so now people are jealous of Marlon ?
Also I have no idea why Michelle corrie is being mentioned.
It couldn't possibly be because everyone likes different characters shocking concept I know
Also I have no idea why Michelle corrie is being mentioned.
It couldn't possibly be because everyone likes different characters shocking concept I know
Originally Posted by Red-Eye:
“I never actually used to mind Marlon until he got together with Laurel and from then on he (along with Laurel too to be honest) became increasingly unlikeable to the point I just wanted to vomit everytime their lovey dovey scenes came on. What made it worse was their storyline started demonising all the other characters to the point they were unreasonably out of character! All this just to convince us Maurel was an undying love story meant to be. (YUCK!)
Obviously Maurel aren't together anymore (thank God) but sadly the damage has been done and I haven't liked either of them since.
Doesn't help that the current, excellent Dementia storyline involving Ashley is a further reminder that Maurel never should've happened to begin with.”
“I never actually used to mind Marlon until he got together with Laurel and from then on he (along with Laurel too to be honest) became increasingly unlikeable to the point I just wanted to vomit everytime their lovey dovey scenes came on. What made it worse was their storyline started demonising all the other characters to the point they were unreasonably out of character! All this just to convince us Maurel was an undying love story meant to be. (YUCK!)
Obviously Maurel aren't together anymore (thank God) but sadly the damage has been done and I haven't liked either of them since.
Doesn't help that the current, excellent Dementia storyline involving Ashley is a further reminder that Maurel never should've happened to begin with.”
I agree with all your post. I don't think I've ever witnessed a less lacklustre sexual bond between two people that I did with Maurel, they made me nauseous too. And the Dementia storyline is being superbly acted by Ashley (Sorry, his real name escapes me right now) - I hope he gets an award.
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