Or we're just being different for the sake of it, whatever thay may mean.....

I think it's funny that people say dislike of Marlon is bandwagon jumping when the argument could just as easily be made that those coming onto say that are jumping on that bandwagon

If only I had arms as long as Marlon's.

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I don't like Marlon but at this point there are so many characters that are more annoying than him and need to go like Kerry, Chrissie, and Doug.

I like all three of those characters but agree that Chrissie and Kerry need toning down. Doug is actually quite a realistic character, he's a moaning old fart yes but most blokes his age usually are!!

Really you like Doug? You are right about him being the grumpy old man but they need a balance to it, Eric is at times a grumpy old man but it doesn't come off as annoying with him.

That relationship was very damaging to both of them in terms of being sympathetic or likeable characters. They tried their best to have it appear that they were noble, refusing to give into their overwhelming love for each other until Ashley proved himself to be a cruel and unreasonable man by 'beating' his father so it was fine for Laurel tp leave him. But there were a lot of viewers that just didn't buy it and saw it as them betraying Ashley and Laurel abandoning him when he was at his lowest ebb. I'm not excusing any form of domestic abuse but it was so out of character that it arguably demonstrated hiw unabke to cope Ashley was with his life, and specifically caring for Sandy and if Laurel was ax nice as she makes out, she'd have helped him,nit waltzed off with one of his friends.

I think that is an issue as well, are these nice characters actually that nice? Perhaps the viewers that don't like them, don't like some if the things they do and that they are still portrayed as being good people.

Paddy for example has alwats been a bit iffy. Let's remember thst Tess was not his first affair. He also cheated on Emily with Viv, got with Rhona when she was barely out of Marlons bed and decided to move Rhona and Marlons son to the other side of the world just because he wanted a better life for him, even though he already had a life most people would give their right arm for. He is, on short, wuite selfish. Sulky and petulant plus able to hurt and betray his wives and friends. Yet he behaves like he is always the one being hard done by.

True, compared to the killers resident he (and Marlon and Laurel) are on the side of the angels but they are not so 'nice'that any viewer that dislikes them must be morally suspect themselves.

Seconded

Excellent post Kitkat and I particularly agree with the Bib. It's the hypocrisy surrounding them that annoys me.

This is why I usually prefer the out and out "bad " characters. They don't pretend to be decent human beings.

Exactly. At least somebody like Cain makes no pretense about what he is. There is an honesty there, plus his somewhat satdonic sense of humour is more entertaining to watch. It is fiction at the end of the day, we watch to be entertained.

In real life, I wouldn't go near somebody like Cain, I doubt many of us would, both from a sense of morality and self preservation. Even those that fancy him rotten.

The band wagon accusation always baffles me. Why can't people have just independent of each other reached the same conclusion? Often for varying reasons.

I separate the art from the artist. There are some actors I've really liked when I've seen them interviewedbut I can't stand the character they play due to the writing or the way they act the part. Ewually, adore some characters but think the actor is a bit of a tosser. And sometimes it is both, like the actor and character, dislike the character and actor.

Mihht also mention that there are different ways of liking a character. You might like them as a person in so much you recognise they are nice but not enjoy watching them but like a chatacter as you find them interesting but not like them as a person. The best characters, it tends to be a combination, sometimes they are 'nice' and sympathetic, other times they aren't.

Gennie and Nikhil, another two nice characters who were generally well liked.

bib: Me neither.

But we can be assured that Kym Marsh will definitely be unavailable for comment.

Her and Danny Dyer really must love a good chat at the soap awards

I agree. You know what you're getting with Cain. Angry, sardonic, violent, but at times capable of being very, very good, which is a pleasant surprise. With Marlon, on the surface he's s nice and harmless but you don't have to dig too far to find an extremely nasty, selfish, childish side.