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Guardian: EU agrees to push UK into Hard Brexit |
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And yet the majority of our trade is NOT effected with our immediate neighbours! How nonsensical of us!!
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Ah, back to "developing countries are developing" shocker. Great reason to leave the EU.
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A lot of them are more interested in doing business with the EU than the UK.
The EU has 100 times as much stuff to sell them as we do, for a start. |
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I love all this Wizard of Oz posturing by the know-nothing Brexiters. Sitting behind their computer screens with their stiff upper lips, and begging for the hardest of Brexits as quickly as possible. Like a road rage driver ranting and threatening, but with his windows closed and doors locked.5
A hard Brexit will be devastating for this country's economy, so they will be very foolish indeed not to have a bolthole to hide in when it happens. The unemployed will not be in any mood to forgive and forget, But to do absolutely nothing at all i.e. putting no application in for both the EEA and Customs Union after the Brexit process is complete would totally destroy the UK economy. |
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Lol, literally.
A billion a month! How gullible can any one person be? Wait till Uncle Phil tells us all just how much Brexit is going to cost us in the Autumn Statement. A billion "saving" will melt away like a snowflake hitting a barbeque. You obviously have no grey matter to engage. You apparently cannot even correctly read - otherwise , you would have realised that I stated 'best part of' a £billion, and as far as I am aware, £0.7 billion /month is the 'best' part is it not??? The latest estimate of the UK subsidy to the EU was a net figure of £8.5 billion - but it has been both higher and lower. It doesn't matter what any future 'claim' of costs will be - I am quoting what has been paid - not stargazing like you and your ilk. You would have to have prior knowledge of the final EU/UK trade agreement, AND, prior knowledge of the new trade deals that can/will be agreed with the much larger non-EU market. How many budget forecasts, after the event, can be claimed to have been 'accurate' ?? Grow up and stop talking such BS. Now - again - why does the UK, or any country have to be in a political association in order to obtain economic growth?? |
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So, after you add in the non EU European countries, where does the majority of our trade go?
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Are you ill or something? I'd seek advice if I were you.
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I have never been right, but your are infected with Fear!
Project Fear Go and listen to what Tessie had to say on the News. You might be a little bit fearful yourself, and with good reason.
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Ha ha ha!
You know that thanks to Brexit, we're already 6th? 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th in no time once we're out. |
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Maybe not, but we get more than that, a single market.
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Oh, if you say so.
Go and listen to what Tessie had to say on the News. You might be a little bit fearful yourself, and with good reason. ![]()
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Ah, back to "developing countries are developing" shocker. Great reason to leave the EU.
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A lot of them are more interested in doing business with the EU than the UK.
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Ha ha ha!
You know that thanks to Brexit, we're already 6th? 7th, 8th, 9th, 10th in no time once we're out. For example -- we were 4th in 1960!!! |
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Lol - we have been 6th before whilst in the EU - on many occasions.......even when Brexit wasn't an issue , and it has been 6th BEFORE we even joined the EEC too!!
For example -- we were 4th in 1960!!! |
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Its time to brink back the Red Coats and take back the empire!
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Lol - we have been 6th before whilst in the EU - on many occasions.......even when Brexit wasn't an issue , and it has been 6th BEFORE we even joined the EEC too!!
For example -- we were 4th in 1960!!! Quote:
Yes, you sank from first to fourth in the aftermath of WW2, and by the early 70s to sixth. That was the primary motivation for joining the EU to begin with.
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Read Steve_Holmes post very carefully. 1960 was the year of our first application to join the EEC..
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Geeez - the UK is still part of the EU!!! - until Brexit takes place, they cannot trade with the UK on anything other than EU negotiated terms.
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Its time to brink back the Red Coats and take back the empire!
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The majority of our trade is with the non-EU market......
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OUR trade with the EU USED to be more than 50%....it hasn't been for a while yet - and that is despite the ADVANTAGE of tariff free trading.
And back to developing countries are developing hoping no-one will notice that our trade with the EU is still increasing.Just not as fast as developing countries. That you still try and pretend it's significant that our EU trade isn't increasing as fast as the sum of other markets including developing countries shows how little you have. |
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I have never been right, but your are infected with Fear!
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Too costly - and although technically out of the EU, we would still be subject to many of the EU anti-Sovereign rules - such as not being able to control immigration from the EU etc. The people have voted for Brexit - which clearly means a complete break from ALL aspects of EU control.
Except "Brexit" of course. |
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nope, because I have a healthy set of testicles.
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Don't be so silly - there are several valid reasons for leaving the EU - not just one. Your excuse for quoting a greater growth rate in developing countries than the EU and many western countries doesn't explain why the EU trade share of the UK's total trade has decline.
I don't believe you can't understand this simple point |
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