You really do show your ignorance, more often than even I originally thought.
Value , does NOT require to be in monetary terms - but perhaps you 'value' your friends in accordance with their wealth!
Incidentally, I very much doubt that my post misled anybody with a modicum of intelligence - and I do apologise if you were misled - but I did very clearly explain, (which shouldn't have been necessary), that as the EU's portion of trade is declining in terms of the UK's total trade, it obviously is declining in value to the UK.
If for example, the monetary value of the EU's portion of UK trade doubled, but despite that , it only represented 10% of UK trade - then obviously it's 'value' to the UK would have declined.

Surely even you can see that?????

No it didn't. Your claim was an extreme distortion.


Our economic position, relative to other countries IS assessed by standard measurements of GDP ..... I'm absolutely sure of that. But you cannot pretend to have explained anything once - never mind twice.

No country's economy is static - they all fluctuate for a variety of reasons.....and the UK's is no different - but the UK's 'decline' that you claimed is not supported by the statistics. So I guess most other countries were declining too .......


No - you provide the evidence to support your claim.......instead of your usual waffling

Yet you omitted your own posts. Wonder why.

On the contrary - the various advantages to the UK have been pointed out on numerous occasions - and if you really believe there is no benefit to being able to conclude mutually beneficial trade deals then you have clearly 'lost the plot'. You are beyond redemption - as you will never see the 'wood for the trees'.

Already forgotten the classic -European Commission Regulation No. 1677/88, "Class I" and "Extra class" cucumbers are allowed a bend of 10mm per 10cm of length. "Class II" cucumbers can bend twice as much. Any cucumbers that are curvier may not be bought or sold.



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It's a stupid question! We can sell more of ANYTHING , ANYWHERE if the price is right - AND, we would have the benefit of BUYING ANYTHING ,from ANYWHERE, if the price is right - and outside of the EU we WILL have a lot more scope to obtain more advantageous deals - WITHOUT having to pay a fortune for it!!
Priceless!!

No, but when you're talking about trade it's kinda implied. Especially if you don't state any other yardstick.

But as the monetary value is still rising is obviously not.

As it's not true, no.

Just see jmclaugh's post. It has all the facts you seek. If you wish to dispute them with him, be my guest.

Do you mean that your comment of the UK 's 'decline' in GDP position was about trade???

Nonsense - the monetary rise could even result from a smaller trade volume - whereas, the importance (as you seem to struggle even comprehending a proper use of the word 'value' ), of the 'portion' of UK trade with the EU is shrinkling - irrespective of monetary value.


Well that explains everything. You certainly need a lot more that a good dictionary......but in any event, that feeble excuse of 'because it 's not true' is truly risible .....because you clearly , constantly fail to see what IS true !!!!

Lololololol

Indeed, lots of people have pointed out vague benefits. But no-one has yet been able to point out one product or service we can export more of.

So you stick to your fine words and I'll wait for something more tangible to hope for. And meanwhile I'll worry about China dumping cheap steel on us under some hastily arranged free trade agreement

Got a credible link for that?

Really? So how can we sell more cars to Japan that already have a zero tariff with the right deal?

Those few with a record of getting it right, like Warren Buffet and Steve Keen, both of whom predicted the banking crash, and were ridiculed by 99% of the 'experts'. As Professor Keen put it, they called him the village idiot. But those same 'experts' who got it so catastrophically wrong are completely unabashed, and without making even the slightest apology, still pop up on tv and in the papers giving us the benefit of their 'expertise'.

Nope - ii is up to YOU to respond to your assertions
.- not use other peoples posts. Still, you constantly fail to support your various claims with credible evidence - so what's new!

No, it was about GDP league position.

Your formless rants do not constitute "truth".

I don't need to but seeing as it's there.

So what has Steve Keen predicted recently for the economic outlook for the UK? Or Warren Buffet?

Yes I am sure. When Ireland was plunged into recession by the failure of its banks, the then government said it would be wrong to make the people of Ireland bail out the billionaires and investment funds, known as the bond holders, who'd lent money to the banks. That, of course, is how capitalism is meat to work. You make a bad investment, you lose your money. Not according to the ECB and Commission, who ordered Ireland to repay the loans, with interest, to the bondholders. I'll see if I've still got the link.

Which indicates the relative strengths/positions of a countrys economies - not how musdhtrade they undertake.

At least I deal in facts - so unlike yourself, I don't have to bleat, and pretend or lie!

Actually we didn't. At the beginning of 2008, just before the banking crash, UK public debt was not excessive, it was actually lower than in 1997.

I'm in agreement with that. But I suspect Allaorta would still consider it too high.

So, find me the credible link to your "Any cucumbers that are curvier may not be bought or sold." fact.

Hardly vague.

A 'clue' was already provided -
European Commission Regulation No. 1677/88,


Because we could have a product that is superior to what is available in Japan! It isn't always the 'price' of a product is it?

That was indeed a clue, but not one I can find containing your "Any cucumbers that are curvier may not be bought or sold." fact.

So I was hoping you could provide one.

That was a disgraceful episode and should never happened. The ECB were bang out of order and acting like bullies. Interestingly though, it didn't turn Irish people against the EU : they took a pragmatic approach and decided that bad things sometimes happen in life and there's not much point in looking for scapegoats.

Of course he would, Allaorta would put it down, as ever, to mismanagement by politicians, supported by people like you.

The ECB is still there and, along with the EU, the IMF, the Bank of International Settlements, the Rothschilds and Goldman Sachs, all wanting their last ounce of flesh, at the end of the day, served by politicians including a bagful of Irish ones.

http://blogs.ec.europa.eu/ECintheUK/...ved-cucumbers/

So the has lost Malta as an ally. How?

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...rexit-malta-pm