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Guardian: EU agrees to push UK into Hard Brexit
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Kiteview
Yesterday, 16:37
Originally Posted by Steve_Holmes:
“Because it points out, ( even if perhaps somewhat exaggerated), the extent of UK and Irish territorial waters - currently both of which are EU members.....and it was plainly ridiculous to make any association with the UK having desires on Irish waters just because of that!! If I had pointed out that Spanish waters make up another 15% or so, would you take that as a hint that the UK wished to claim theirs too???”

It doesn't point out anything of the sort. The only waters we can lay claim to are U.K. waters. There is absolutely no point in including the waters of another EU member state when discussing U.K. fisheries except to give an incorrect impression.

Originally Posted by Steve_Holmes:
“What an absolute load of bunkum!! Poor taste indeed.....so only egregious Remoaner's references to piracy can be considered in 'good taste'!

The EU is an undemocratic institution , run by self serving pigs -at-the trough, who make our own self serving pigs look like choir boys......but, as a devout Remoaner, your obvious dual standards don't come as a surprise.”

The EU is run by the 28 democracies, democratically elected heads of Government, Ministers, MEPs, and - more centrally - Commissioners duly democratically elected & approved by MEPs and heads of Government.

Neither the EU or, to the best of my knowledge, any of the other member states currently have their government in their Supreme Court trying to argue that their government should be allowed to ignore their democratically elected parliament if it so chooses and make hugely strategic decisions that their Parliaments may or may not disagree with but, being hypocritical, you'll regard such behaviour as laudable because it happens at home whereas you'd condemn it from a height were either the EU institutions or any of the other member states' governments to even contemplate beheaving like that.
grassmarket
Yesterday, 16:40
Originally Posted by andykn:
“There's going to be a lot of disappointed fishermen. The century long decline in European fishing won't be changed one iota by us leaving.”

You have never spoken a truer word. European fishing will continue its century long decline once we leave. British fishing will boom, though, just as Icelandic and Norwegian fishing are booming.
andykn
Yesterday, 16:52
Originally Posted by grassmarket:
“You have never spoken a truer word. European fishing will continue its century long decline once we leave. British fishing will boom, though, just as Icelandic and Norwegian fishing are booming.”

Er, no, not just as at all. Iceland and Norway both have far larger fishing grounds relatively and have tariff free access to the EU.

We don't have one and probably won't have the other.

Try again.
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