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Ed Balls deserves to win?
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[quote=aimeeaimee1000;84629172]I find it is becoming ridiculous Ed Balls has been fun but his lumbered clonking dancing is certainly not that great., There are others that have had no dance experience and are far far better at this stage than him.
If he gets to the final and wins, SCD will become a farce we need great dancers in the final for an exciting show dance and good dancing unfortunately Ed does not have that.I have thoroughly enjoyed his performances but now it is time for him to go.
I hope the public do not mess this show up for good and vote stupidly we need a great final with the best dancer winning and sorry Ed is certainly not that.[/QUOTE]
So thats danny to win against louise in the final then.
We could have pretty much guessed that after week 1.
ps. are people forgetting chris hollins??
If he gets to the final and wins, SCD will become a farce we need great dancers in the final for an exciting show dance and good dancing unfortunately Ed does not have that.I have thoroughly enjoyed his performances but now it is time for him to go.
I hope the public do not mess this show up for good and vote stupidly we need a great final with the best dancer winning and sorry Ed is certainly not that.[/QUOTE]
So thats danny to win against louise in the final then.
We could have pretty much guessed that after week 1.
ps. are people forgetting chris hollins??
[quote=robbleona;84629756]
I didnt watch any SCD that year. But can guess what he was like.
Originally Posted by aimeeaimee1000:
“I find it is becoming ridiculous Ed Balls has been fun but his lumbered clonking dancing is certainly not that great., There are others that have had no dance experience and are far far better at this stage than him.
If he gets to the final and wins, SCD will become a farce we need great dancers in the final for an exciting show dance and good dancing unfortunately Ed does not have that.I have thoroughly enjoyed his performances but now it is time for him to go.
I hope the public do not mess this show up for good and vote stupidly we need a great final with the best dancer winning and sorry Ed is certainly not that.[/QUOTE]
So thats danny to win against louise in the final then.
We could have pretty much guessed that after week 1.
ps. are people forgetting chris hollins??”
“I find it is becoming ridiculous Ed Balls has been fun but his lumbered clonking dancing is certainly not that great., There are others that have had no dance experience and are far far better at this stage than him.
If he gets to the final and wins, SCD will become a farce we need great dancers in the final for an exciting show dance and good dancing unfortunately Ed does not have that.I have thoroughly enjoyed his performances but now it is time for him to go.
I hope the public do not mess this show up for good and vote stupidly we need a great final with the best dancer winning and sorry Ed is certainly not that.[/QUOTE]
So thats danny to win against louise in the final then.
We could have pretty much guessed that after week 1.
ps. are people forgetting chris hollins??”
I didnt watch any SCD that year. But can guess what he was like.
I'm not sure I'd say anyone "deserves" to win. Or at least not more than anyone else. They may all be of differing levels as dancers and entertainers but they're all working hard and putting in the effort, unlike some past celebs (*cough*Ann Widdecombe and Jerry Hall*cough*) and based on that, they all "deserve" to win. As for who will actually win, that's what the public vote's for.
Originally Posted by aimeeaimee1000:
“I find it is becoming ridiculous Ed Balls has been fun but his lumbered clonking dancing is certainly not that great., There are others that have had no dance experience and are far far better at this stage than him.
If he gets to the final and wins, SCD will become a farce we need great dancers in the final for an exciting show dance and good dancing unfortunately Ed does not have that.I have thoroughly enjoyed his performances but now it is time for him to go.
I hope the public do not mess this show up for good and vote stupidly we need a great final with the best dancer winning and sorry Ed is certainly not that.”
“I find it is becoming ridiculous Ed Balls has been fun but his lumbered clonking dancing is certainly not that great., There are others that have had no dance experience and are far far better at this stage than him.
If he gets to the final and wins, SCD will become a farce we need great dancers in the final for an exciting show dance and good dancing unfortunately Ed does not have that.I have thoroughly enjoyed his performances but now it is time for him to go.
I hope the public do not mess this show up for good and vote stupidly we need a great final with the best dancer winning and sorry Ed is certainly not that.”
Comments like that make me want Ed and Katya to win more than ever.
Who are you to judge about 'voting stupidly'?
Everyone who votes has the exact same right to vote 'stupidly' or otherwise as every other voter.
Originally Posted by roseblue1:
“In my opinion if he wins then good on him.
The British Public will vote for who they want to win...I personally think he has come a long way and is not trying to be a comedy act unlike others.
The guy has never danced unlike others have...would love to see him have a ballroom dance if he gets through.”
“In my opinion if he wins then good on him.
The British Public will vote for who they want to win...I personally think he has come a long way and is not trying to be a comedy act unlike others.
The guy has never danced unlike others have...would love to see him have a ballroom dance if he gets through.”
Err, according to his recently released Autobiography, among many hobbies of his youth, he participated at varsity level in ballroom dancing.
Originally Posted by sheaky wakes:
“Err, according to his recently released Autobiography, among many hobbies of his youth, he participated at varsity level in ballroom dancing.”
“Err, according to his recently released Autobiography, among many hobbies of his youth, he participated at varsity level in ballroom dancing.”
And yet he still manages to be crap at it.
If Strictly is all about pure dancing ability, why is it necessary to have a pantomime villain judge? We all know why Craig nitpicks and votes down. Even the rows with the other judges are scripted. We've all watched and wondered what will Craig have to say this week. Without Craig's comments the programme would be really bland.
I, for one, have had my fill of watching stage school trained celebs pretending to have forgotten how to dance. Dancing is like riding a bike, once you've had hours of practice and performance, you've got it. Ed is starting from scratch, years of Dad Dancing will never make up for the experience others started with.
If Ed should win, millions will be happy, who cares if a few forum 'experts' are upset. It certainly won't affect the popularity of the programme.
I, for one, have had my fill of watching stage school trained celebs pretending to have forgotten how to dance. Dancing is like riding a bike, once you've had hours of practice and performance, you've got it. Ed is starting from scratch, years of Dad Dancing will never make up for the experience others started with.
If Ed should win, millions will be happy, who cares if a few forum 'experts' are upset. It certainly won't affect the popularity of the programme.
Originally Posted by trebanos:
“If Strictly is all about pure dancing ability, why is it necessary to have a pantomime villain judge? We all know why Craig nitpicks and votes down. Even the rows with the other judges are scripted. We've all watched and wondered what will Craig have to say this week. Without Craig's comments the programme would be really bland.
I, for one, have had my fill of watching stage school trained celebs pretending to have forgotten how to dance. Dancing is like riding a bike, once you've had hours of practice and performance, you've got it. Ed is starting from scratch, years of Dad Dancing will never make up for the experience others started with.
If Ed should win, millions will be happy, who cares if a few forum 'experts' are upset. It certainly won't affect the popularity of the programme.”
“If Strictly is all about pure dancing ability, why is it necessary to have a pantomime villain judge? We all know why Craig nitpicks and votes down. Even the rows with the other judges are scripted. We've all watched and wondered what will Craig have to say this week. Without Craig's comments the programme would be really bland.
I, for one, have had my fill of watching stage school trained celebs pretending to have forgotten how to dance. Dancing is like riding a bike, once you've had hours of practice and performance, you've got it. Ed is starting from scratch, years of Dad Dancing will never make up for the experience others started with.
If Ed should win, millions will be happy, who cares if a few forum 'experts' are upset. It certainly won't affect the popularity of the programme.”
Absolutely
Originally Posted by trebanos:
“If Strictly is all about pure dancing ability, why is it necessary to have a pantomime villain judge? We all know why Craig nitpicks and votes down. Even the rows with the other judges are scripted. We've all watched and wondered what will Craig have to say this week. Without Craig's comments the programme would be really bland.
I, for one, have had my fill of watching stage school trained celebs pretending to have forgotten how to dance. Dancing is like riding a bike, once you've had hours of practice and performance, you've got it. Ed is starting from scratch, years of Dad Dancing will never make up for the experience others started with.
If Ed should win, millions will be happy, who cares if a few forum 'experts' are upset. It certainly won't affect the popularity of the programme.”
“If Strictly is all about pure dancing ability, why is it necessary to have a pantomime villain judge? We all know why Craig nitpicks and votes down. Even the rows with the other judges are scripted. We've all watched and wondered what will Craig have to say this week. Without Craig's comments the programme would be really bland.
I, for one, have had my fill of watching stage school trained celebs pretending to have forgotten how to dance. Dancing is like riding a bike, once you've had hours of practice and performance, you've got it. Ed is starting from scratch, years of Dad Dancing will never make up for the experience others started with.
If Ed should win, millions will be happy, who cares if a few forum 'experts' are upset. It certainly won't affect the popularity of the programme.”
Spot on my friend.
Originally Posted by trebanos:
“If Strictly is all about pure dancing ability, why is it necessary to have a pantomime villain judge? We all know why Craig nitpicks and votes down. Even the rows with the other judges are scripted. We've all watched and wondered what will Craig have to say this week. Without Craig's comments the programme would be really bland.
I, for one, have had my fill of watching stage school trained celebs pretending to have forgotten how to dance. Dancing is like riding a bike, once you've had hours of practice and performance, you've got it. Ed is starting from scratch, years of Dad Dancing will never make up for the experience others started with.
If Ed should win, millions will be happy, who cares if a few forum 'experts' are upset. It certainly won't affect the popularity of the programme.”
“If Strictly is all about pure dancing ability, why is it necessary to have a pantomime villain judge? We all know why Craig nitpicks and votes down. Even the rows with the other judges are scripted. We've all watched and wondered what will Craig have to say this week. Without Craig's comments the programme would be really bland.
I, for one, have had my fill of watching stage school trained celebs pretending to have forgotten how to dance. Dancing is like riding a bike, once you've had hours of practice and performance, you've got it. Ed is starting from scratch, years of Dad Dancing will never make up for the experience others started with.
If Ed should win, millions will be happy, who cares if a few forum 'experts' are upset. It certainly won't affect the popularity of the programme.”
I wouldn't be too sure about that. Obviously thousands may be voting for Ed but in total many more thousands are voting for all the others. There may be many who will not watch again if a joke act wins the glitterball. I certainly won't - I want to see beautiful dancing in the final and I want the best dancer to win. Still if that's not what other people want, that's fine, I can watch something else on Saturday night.
Originally Posted by maggie_07:
“I wouldn't be too sure about that. Obviously thousands may be voting for Ed but in total many more thousands are voting for all the others. There may be many who will not watch again if a joke act wins the glitterball. I certainly won't - I want to see beautiful dancing in the final and I want the best dancer to win. Still if that's not what other people want, that's fine, I can watch something else on Saturday night.”
“I wouldn't be too sure about that. Obviously thousands may be voting for Ed but in total many more thousands are voting for all the others. There may be many who will not watch again if a joke act wins the glitterball. I certainly won't - I want to see beautiful dancing in the final and I want the best dancer to win. Still if that's not what other people want, that's fine, I can watch something else on Saturday night.”
you mean like dull factor? good luck with that.
ps...two words ....chris hollins.
he didn't put 10 miilion plus viewers off watching again, so why would Ed and katya!!
IMO he should have been out weeks ago and it amazes me that people admit they will vote for him no matter how badly he perorms.
Originally Posted by maggie_07:
“I wouldn't be too sure about that. Obviously thousands may be voting for Ed but in total many more thousands are voting for all the others. There may be many who will not watch again if a joke act wins the glitterball. I certainly won't - I want to see beautiful dancing in the final and I want the best dancer to win. Still if that's not what other people want, that's fine, I can watch something else on Saturday night.”
“I wouldn't be too sure about that. Obviously thousands may be voting for Ed but in total many more thousands are voting for all the others. There may be many who will not watch again if a joke act wins the glitterball. I certainly won't - I want to see beautiful dancing in the final and I want the best dancer to win. Still if that's not what other people want, that's fine, I can watch something else on Saturday night.”
But you would see beautiful dancing in the final. Ed wouldn't be in the final all on his own, would he?
Is there anything wrong with compromise? Something for everybody?
Originally Posted by robbleona:
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you mean like dull factor? good luck with that.
ps...two words ....chris hollins.
he didn't put 10 miilion plus viewers off watching again, so why would Ed and katya!!”
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you mean like dull factor? good luck with that.
ps...two words ....chris hollins.
he didn't put 10 miilion plus viewers off watching again, so why would Ed and katya!!”
No, I wouldn't watch X-factor if I was paid. There are plenty of other options, like a pile of box sets I need to watch.
I didn't like Chris Hollins winning either but he wasn't as bad as Ed. Didn't he get a 40 for his charleston? The following year was Kara's year so she brought viewers in from the beginning.
Chris Hollins in fact got 50 for his Charleston, so technically speaking it's the best dance ever on Strictly.
Originally Posted by trebanos:
“If Ed should win, millions will be happy, who cares if a few forum 'experts' are upset. It certainly won't affect the popularity of the programme.”
“If Ed should win, millions will be happy, who cares if a few forum 'experts' are upset. It certainly won't affect the popularity of the programme.”
If Ed should win, millions will also be unhappy!
Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“If he wins then he'll have to have topped the public vote not only in the final, but also almost certainly the semi final and most probably the week before that as well. If he can do that, then fair enough he wins. The public gets what the public wants.”
“If he wins then he'll have to have topped the public vote not only in the final, but also almost certainly the semi final and most probably the week before that as well. If he can do that, then fair enough he wins. The public gets what the public wants.”
Agreed, when the public are told to vote for their favourite, if he is their favourite and most of them vote for him, then he not only deserves to win, it will be entirely within the premise of the show.
As has been the case since the beginning, people vote for different things and for many different reasons, dance and how it affects people is subjective and what one person likes, another one won't. That's why people aren't told to vote for the best dancer.
Originally Posted by Ann_Dancer:
“But you would see beautiful dancing in the final. Ed wouldn't be in the final all on his own, would he?
Is there anything wrong with compromise? Something for everybody?”
“But you would see beautiful dancing in the final. Ed wouldn't be in the final all on his own, would he?
Is there anything wrong with compromise? Something for everybody?”
No, that's fine. If he's in the final I can skip through his dances. The poster I was replying to was talking about Ed winning though. That I would be upset about as it would just be a kick in the teeth for the celebs and pros who have worked hard to perform lovely dance routines all these weeks.
However if that's what people vote for and that's what they want, fair enough and I'll say goodbye to Strictly after about 14 years.
Originally Posted by maggie_07:
“No, that's fine. If he's in the final I can skip through his dances. The poster I was replying to was talking about Ed winning though. That I would be upset about as it would just be a kick in the teeth for the celebs and pros who have worked hard to perform lovely dance routines all these weeks.”
“No, that's fine. If he's in the final I can skip through his dances. The poster I was replying to was talking about Ed winning though. That I would be upset about as it would just be a kick in the teeth for the celebs and pros who have worked hard to perform lovely dance routines all these weeks.”
And how does not also apply to Ed or are him and Katya not working hard to perform their routine each week? Every one of his routines has contained recognisable steps from the dance type it's supposed to be.
He's not a naturally talented dancer but he's working no less hard than any of the others and it could be argued that as he doesn't have the experience of Danny or Louise or the innate ability of Ore, he's working even harder.
Originally Posted by Cadiva:
“And how does not also apply to Ed or are him and Katya not working hard to perform their routine each week? Every one of his routines has contained recognisable steps from the dance type it's supposed to be.
He's not a naturally talented dancer but he's working no less hard than any of the others and it could be argued that as he doesn't have the experience of Danny or Louise or the innate ability of Ore, he's working even harder.”
“And how does not also apply to Ed or are him and Katya not working hard to perform their routine each week? Every one of his routines has contained recognisable steps from the dance type it's supposed to be.
He's not a naturally talented dancer but he's working no less hard than any of the others and it could be argued that as he doesn't have the experience of Danny or Louise or the innate ability of Ore, he's working even harder.”
I didn't say he's not working hard. It's the end product that counts though and if people are still enjoying his dances, fair enough but it doesn't mean I have to.
Originally Posted by Cadiva:
“And how does not also apply to Ed or are him and Katya not working hard to perform their routine each week? Every one of his routines has contained recognisable steps from the dance type it's supposed to be.
He's not a naturally talented dancer but he's working no less hard than any of the others and it could be argued that as he doesn't have the experience of Danny or Louise or the innate ability of Ore, he's working even harder.”
“And how does not also apply to Ed or are him and Katya not working hard to perform their routine each week? Every one of his routines has contained recognisable steps from the dance type it's supposed to be.
He's not a naturally talented dancer but he's working no less hard than any of the others and it could be argued that as he doesn't have the experience of Danny or Louise or the innate ability of Ore, he's working even harder.”
I disagree. Danny, Louise or Ore dance steps are way more complicated than Ed's so they have to work much harder. No matter what dance experience or natural talent that they have, they are still new to ballroom and latin.
To be honest it's ridiculous arguing over who is working the hardest when we don't even know the total training hours any more.
I don't understand why the GBP can't make a difference between a beginner learning to dance and an intermediate learning to dance?
Surely the complexity of say Danny's choreography is 10 times or more difficult than Ed's?
And that's how it should be. But please let's not say - oh he can dance, so he is learning nothing and not making any effort at all just because his starting point was higher than Ed's.
Both are learning.
The rest is personal taste to which everyone is entitled.
Surely the complexity of say Danny's choreography is 10 times or more difficult than Ed's?
And that's how it should be. But please let's not say - oh he can dance, so he is learning nothing and not making any effort at all just because his starting point was higher than Ed's.
Both are learning.
The rest is personal taste to which everyone is entitled.
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