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Greg was Robbed
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Dervlathedog
21-11-2016
Originally Posted by Paace:
“Good point . I'd forgotten but there was similar posts last year about the imbalance .”

I remember pretty dodgy comments about 'Jay and his Harem', though I think they were meant approvingly given they came from Jay fans
davegold
21-11-2016
Strictly is a reality show and the dance off should be real. Fans shouldn't let bad decisions slide just because their favourite dancer wasn't given the boot.
TomStar
21-11-2016
Out of those two Greg was the right one to go. Both did a better performance in the DO but Claudia's technique was far stronger imo...
notdebbiedingle
21-11-2016
Had it been judged on saturday's performances I would have saved Greg as I thought Claudia's jive was pretty shambolic & she seemed to be constantly correcting her feet between steps, but in the dance off I thought she improved 100% & ultimately deserved to go through...and I say that as a Greg/Nat fan who hasn't really taken to Claudia In a big way!!
katmobile
21-11-2016
Originally Posted by Tweacle Tart II:
“He has. That bloody awful Cha Cha ”

People always remember your mistakes don't they There was plenty of good stuff - the VW but yeah bring that up.
Phalaris
21-11-2016
A messy, technically tougher jive versus a decent but not super-inspiring QS. Claudia probably has a strong dance in her and Greg looked as though he'd reached his limits. Judges all made a point of using "technique" as their reason for saving Claudia.

Greg might have been slightly robbed, but it's not Jamelia levels of injustice. He was unlucky to be up against Claudia.
PickUpAPingu
21-11-2016
I agreee with the OP. based on the dance off alone Greg should ahve gone straight through. But that was never gong to happen. They were never going to allow another woman to go, not with Louise being the only other woman left in it.

Unlike Jay last year, Louise isn't a stand-out dancer, not does she have any story or selling point other than being a nice lady. They couldn't let her be the last woman standing with several weeks yet to go. Claudia was always going to be saved. She could have come on, fallen over 3 times and they'd have still saved her, under the guise of "more to give" or something similar.

As soon as Greg landed in the dance off he was a goner.
who
21-11-2016
don't worry all you greg fans as you will be seeing him again in his next newspaper article,lets face it he's had a good run, but I'm sure the article will say different.
FusionFury
21-11-2016
Ed Balls would go, if it based purely on dance skills. Nobody likes to say it but Craig, the guy is as stompy as hell !

But it is not about dance ability, it is based on popularity and "personality" what is written in the press.

Gregg wasn't controversial or an "out there" personality, so he goes home sadly.

Well done Gregg for sticking to your beliefs/principals. A nice decent man who has done amazing things for this country and gone on an amazing journey with Natalie Lowe. Sleep well, sweet prince
Ellie1967
21-11-2016
The dance off wasn't introduced to 'ensure the good dancers stayed until the end' or to 'avoid another Widdy'. Series 8 and 9 had no dance off and not many people would argue that the best dancers didn't reach the final. IIRC, Widdy wasn't even in the bottom two until the week she left, so the DO would've made no difference. The DO is just there to give the producers more control to manipulate the series - fair enough, but they should just call it Judges Save and let them openly save whichever of the two they want for whatever reason. There's no point in the farcical dance offs between two people where the result is blindingly obvious, complete with embarrassing advice sections from the judges on what they can do to win the DO, when the only real answer is 'hope the other person forgets their entire routine and sits down in the middle of the floor for 90 seconds.'
FusionFury
21-11-2016
The Judges made it clear AJ was going to be saved when they basically said BEFORE the dance-off she was too good to be in the bottom 2.

Gregg didn't stand a chance, no matter if he did a 10 performance. Sad but true.
katmobile
21-11-2016
Originally Posted by davegold:
“Strictly is a reality show and the dance off should be real. Fans shouldn't let bad decisions slide just because their favourite dancer wasn't given the boot.”

Yes and no. I think that in theory they should judge what's in front of them but the point of the DO is to save the better dancers and I can understand why the judges would put through someone they think has more to give other someone who's reached their limit. They were fair to Greg last week which is more than I expected. I haven't seen the results show yet so I can't fully judge how fair they were this week but I can understand their decision and much as I like Greg I think I would have done the same in their shoes.
edy10
21-11-2016
Originally Posted by Tweacle Tart II:
“He has. That bloody awful Cha Cha ”

😂😂😂😂😂
fatskia
21-11-2016
Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“Daisy's doing the tour and they cut her over Greg when they easily could have saved her, so it's not a terribly consistant conspiracy theory.”

We live in a world where logic is underrated.

Even as a Daisy fan, I accept that Greg danced his best dance ever last week and just edged the D O.
jiroos
21-11-2016
Originally Posted by fatskia:
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Even as a Daisy fan, I accept that Greg danced his best dance ever last week and just edged the D O.”

Greg called on every last drop of his competitive spirit in last week's DO - and the difference was clear. He was amazing (his best dance) and rightly booted Daisy out of the water.

This week, Claudia rightly went through. Greg appeared to accept he would not beat Claudia before he even danced, leading to a lacklustre and, to me, a worst performance than his original effort.
Vientre
21-11-2016
As soon as Claudia was named in the dance off I knew she would be saved, couldn't imagine only having one female celeb left at this stage of the competiton.
Venetian
21-11-2016
Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“Totally agree. The judges take the public for idiots. They have a system now, they will
overmark in the main show, so in case these people are in the DO, they can save them and say we did score them higher in the main show. They are two steps ahead of the voting public, trying save their favourites. Scrap the DO and send the lowest scored couple home.

I am happy for Claudia to win, but she made mistakes in the main show and in the DO.”

I agree with scrapping the DO, but did you wrote your post from the top of the grassy knoll?. OK, yes that is facetious but no one will ever convince me that the shop is set up in favour of certain contestants. I will now retreat to the other side of the barricades!
GabeRich
21-11-2016
Originally Posted by Christopher D:
“Thankfully she was saved as their would have been only one woman left, The judges made the right choice.”

And believe what you will but that is a very big factor in the result of that particular DO. Were they really going to vote off yet another woman? No, no way in hell unless Claudia fell flat on her face. As a lot of people have said Claudia is the better dancer out of the two throughout the series, but on Saturday there was nothing to choose between her and Greg's dancing. Did I think it was Greg's time to go ... well, I would have preferred he stay and Ed leave, but if that couldn't happen then yes, it was probably his time to leave. I would have just preferred it to be against someone who's performance was obviously better, and Claudia's wasn't.
katmobile
21-11-2016
Originally Posted by Venetian:
“I agree with scrapping the DO, but did you wrote your post from the top of the grassy knoll?. OK, yes that is facetious but no one will ever convince me that the shop is set up in favour of certain contestants. I will now retreat to the other side of the barricades!”

I think the judges have favourites or they develop them during the competition and that some people's agents or star power possibly influence things behind the scenes. However the public always has a say and we can always say 'no' to them. I do think Louise is being set up to win this series for example and also that it will not happen.
Katenutzs
21-11-2016
No Greg wasn't robbed, he just did not get enough votes sadly
Littlegreen42
21-11-2016
Such a shame this series has been ruined by the scoring. Judges obviously saving certain dancers (Ore and Joanne) mistakes mentioned yet award 10's while Greg puts everything into a dance and is only given an 8?

Claudia was awful both times, while Greg improved in the DO. Therefore he should have gone through.

But like Anita leaving before Katie last year, the Judges fix these things.
davedub
21-11-2016
Claudia was better in the Dance off IMO
yellowlabbie
21-11-2016
Originally Posted by davedub:
“Claudia was better in the Dance off IMO”

She was and her dance was far more difficult. Greg was always going to go against the better dancers, thank goodness.
Jennifer_F
21-11-2016
Based on the dance off, I would have saved Greg. The jive was not a good dance for Claudia, she really didn't get the jive action at all, it was a fast and furious hot mess to me. However, whether thejudges made their decision, based on just the DO, who knows.
davegold
21-11-2016
Originally Posted by katmobile:
“Yes and no. I think that in theory they should judge what's in front of them but the point of the DO is to save the better dancers and I can understand why the judges would put through someone they think has more to give other someone who's reached their limit. They were fair to Greg last week which is more than I expected. I haven't seen the results show yet so I can't fully judge how fair they were this week but I can understand their decision and much as I like Greg I think I would have done the same in their shoes.”

The dance off is there for the better dancers to demonstrate their ability. If they can't prove it, they're not getting votes, then should they stay?

A lot of the excuses put forward in this thread are of the lines of "the producers are fixing it so that .... ". All that cynicism is ultimately bad for the show, a show where the public pay to vote (by telephone). It's good for the show if it looks like a genuine competition.
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