I'll start by saying that I'm not a believer in any conspiracy theory, but if anyone is "fixing" things then surely it would be the production team, not the judges?

You have got your way there is no reason to be a tit about it.

The judges attempted to fix things by giving Claudia four undeserved 9s.
Whose idea that was is anyone's guess. I mean four nines including Craig's.
"What were the chances of that happening?"

The idea was to keep her out of the dance off, where the way things are going this year that could have included anyone.
The bad news was that despite their efforts she still ended up there. The good news was she ended up in there with Greg. So panic over, there's still two women left in the competition.

I don't see why it's a big deal why there are still women in the competiton and I self indentify as a feminist some years the women are better than the men and some years it's the reverse. Some people entertain you and some don't - sometimes 'good' dancers are a bit dull and the 'bad' are entertaining. Like people said Jay was the last man standing for quite some considerable time last year and no one seemed to care despite women winning for the previous two years.

Would the bouncy floor confuse a novice dancer doing a jive?

And what about those who think Greg was robbed and are continually trashing Claudia's dancing? If they think Greg is better than Claudia then they are the tits.

Wow! Calm down.

He's a horribly boring dancer so yes, that is the only dance of his that I can actually recall. As for any of his others......no sorry, I got nothing.

Personal taste I know, but I have to disagree with you on that one!!

In the routines that required 'a performance' eg the Robin Hood one, the Paso & Natalie's 'Rumba that wasn't a Rumba' I think he always delivered on that!! Fair enough his footwork was often a bit questionable & he was more than fortunate to escape the DO in Cha cha week but to say he was a boring dancer is a bit unfair imo!!

I doubt it really, as it actually makes the dancing easier in my opinion. It probably felt different to what she is used to, but it would not affect her. The technique just was not there.

Anita left last year because she made errors in a dance that was not what it was supposed to be!! I'll never understand why they chose to redo that 'salsa' rather than the Foxtrot which could have been ironed out into a great routine!! Katie was much better in the DO than she had been in the main show!! 5th was a wonderful result for Anita last year imo and all credit to Gleb & his stunning theatrical choreography that covered up her shortcomings!!

As for Ore & Greg on Saturday night, I'm a big fan of both but I'm sorry, Ore's routine & performance were a different class to Greg's & in my opinion apart from the outrageous overmarking of Claudia's first dance which left me speechless I think the rest were marked quite accurately!!

What you forget is the partnership. Katya and Ed are a joyful couple with great senses of humour. Katya has choreographed clever routines, which have earned her praise for not letting Ed off the hook in terms of the steps, even if his technique leaves a lot to be desired. What's more their relationship has encouraged Ed to flourish performance-wise.

On the other hand the partnership between Greg and Natalie has turned me off Natalie again and Greg was dull to watch for those who are not his fans. I find this surprising as he seems to be a 'soul of the party' guy but between him and Natalie this lacked expression on the floor, aside from his opening jive. He should have gone last week against Daisy and outstayed his welcome afaic.

This ^^ I loved Ore's routine and he can outdance Greg, as nice as Greg is. Again, yes he and Louise had to be overmarked to put them in the right leader board position.

I don't think he was better than Claudia so not robbed in the Dance off in that way but should've gone further than Ed so in that way he was robbed

Fair enough. It would be boring if we all like the same people.

I want someone who makes me 'feel' something and he just did nothing for me. Same as Louise - yeah, I'm sure she's technically very good but Christ, she's so dull much like she is in real life.

Be fair. Claudia's jive was a mess. I've liked her dancing so far, but let's not get crazy and pretend that ALL her dances are wonderful. That jive wasn't, and while Greg's QS wasn't perfect, it was better than that jive. Probably not better than Claudia's dance last week, but DEFINITELY better than the dance she did on the week.

But somehow that suddenly doesn't matter in the DO when it's inconvenient.

Surely it should be the the better dancer who,is saved ?

I agree it wasn't Claudia's best dance but it was far more difficult than Gregs. Greg did an ok dance well, Claudia did a difficult dance with a few little errors. It would have been a travesty is the judges had saved Greg over her.

Well the better dancer was saved.

Why? Greg danced better. Maybe AJ should have thought about the difficulty of the dance and tailored it better to Claudia's abilities. Why should Greg be punished for it?

He wasn't punished, he was voted out by the judges and, anyway, why should Claudia be 'punished' because of AJ.

I'm sure Greg doesn't begrudge Claudia staying over him.

AJ is her partner. Celebs have fallen because of their pro's bungling before.

Of course Greg doesn't begrudge her. That's a ridiculous thing to add.

I'm female- but I don't buy this as a reason for putting someone through: tokenism sucks. I'm with the many on here who say that Claudia's definitely better overall (her ballroom is looking really beautiful now) but in this DO, Greg kicked ass.

It's just so mealy-mouthed of the show to keep repeating that "the DO matters", and to dangle the carrot of allowing the lower marked dancer their dramatic chance to turn the tables, when clearly the judges just use it to put through "the better dancer"
I was totally expecting Len to go against the other 3 last night and say that Greg got his vote.

Maybe they have but that doesn't make it right.

It's just a pity most of his fans don't begrudge her or Ed. Poor Ed, he's not even in the bottom 2 and he's getting in the neck. It's not as if they are going to win anyway.

Perhaps he's getting it in the neck because he's not in the bottom two.

Still, I somehow think he'll survive this ~horrible abuse~.

So that makes it OK? Maybe some of Greg's fans should follow his example and be gracious in defeat.