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Old 21-11-2016, 07:21
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Do they think he is the next Alan Sugar or some big CEO of a company or what, I know that Whitney and the Carters are not exactly the sharpest tools in the box, but didn't Whitney actually meet him out of work once didn't she notice the sign outside saying the name of the company?
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Old 21-11-2016, 07:38
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Old 21-11-2016, 07:48
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It is very silly... it's lazy writing that they all just fawn over him with shit lines like "aww here's our businessy Lee, how was all the important executive business stuff darling? Did you make lots of important business deals? You've gotta look professional and flash and businessy and have those swinging pendulum things on your desk to be proper business like, just like every 90s cliche about working in the City."

Obviously Mick is clinically stupid, but surely the others can pool a few brain cells to figure out that 2 months working on a fish stall doesn't qualify you for a high flying investment bank career.
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Old 21-11-2016, 08:59
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I love how they never stop reminding us that Lee is a high flying business man everytime he walks into the Vic 'there's our City kid' or how Martin & Kush find it fascinating that when they around Lee they never fail to mention it. Even his presents are all about his job, he can never escape from it.
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Old 21-11-2016, 09:06
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The Carters probably think Lee has a job like the supervisor we keep seeing who's always reminding Lee of what a poor job he's doing. When Whitney met Lee at the back entrance to where he works that day, she assumed smart ass, Osman, was one of Lee's employees.
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Old 21-11-2016, 09:52
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It does seem a bit odd that it doesn't seem to strike anyone that Lee, who as far as I can see has no business training and is hardly the most dynamic young man, would be some kind of hotshot.
However, I know that in the past that I've been deliberately vague about unglamorous jobs myself - People do sometimes dress up what they do a bit, not least when you're in your twenties and you want to be seen to be doing well.
Even so, people aren't dumb - If you're still living in one room of a shared house and
buying your clothes at mid-range shops then they know you're not exactly raking in the cash, whatever you're doing.
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Old 21-11-2016, 09:57
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I do think that plot points like this are what give soaps a bit of a bad reputation at times. Needing to suspend your disbelief to such a degree basically shows that the writers don't think much of the audience's intelligence. Lee's storyline is for the most part fantastic; well acted, paced and genuinely emotive. If the writers really invested in the smaller details then the the storyline would fly.
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Old 21-11-2016, 11:08
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I love how they never stop reminding us that Lee is a high flying business man everytime he walks into the Vic 'there's our City kid' or how Martin & Kush find it fascinating that when they around Lee they never fail to mention it. Even his presents are all about his job, he can never escape from it.
Remember this is Walford where everyone works locally and never ventures outside to the square for work. Nobody seems to have any professional training !!!

Most of them probably get a nosebleed if they get on the tube to the West End.
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Old 21-11-2016, 11:16
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Knowing he works in a call centre, I suspect Lee's job title is something like "Sales Executive" and the family have assumed executive = manager.

The way all the Carters have reacted to Lee's "City Job" as if he is Gordon Gekko/the Wolf of Walford is completely unrealistic; even if Mick, Linda and Whitney are naïve/stupid enough to believe that Lee has at least a management role on no experience, Johnny is supposed to be studying law at University and therefore intelligent enough to realise that the stereotypical "City Jobs" like stock-brokers or investment bankers require at least a degree.

Lee obviously feels that he has to live up to the expectations of his family, but it seems to me that he has made it worse for himself by not explaining at the beginning what his new job. Whitney and his parents would have been just as proud of him for getting a job.
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Old 21-11-2016, 11:56
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Knowing he works in a call centre, I suspect Lee's job title is something like "Sales Executive" and the family have assumed executive = manager.

The way all the Carters have reacted to Lee's "City Job" as if he is Gordon Gekko/the Wolf of Walford is completely unrealistic; even if Mick, Linda and Whitney are naïve/stupid enough to believe that Lee has at least a management role on no experience, Johnny is supposed to be studying law at University and therefore intelligent enough to realise that the stereotypical "City Jobs" like stock-brokers or investment bankers require at least a degree.

Lee obviously feels that he has to live up to the expectations of his family, but it seems to me that he has made it worse for himself by not explaining at the beginning what his new job. Whitney and his parents would have been just as proud of him for getting a job.
The only way that I can rationalise this is that all through the advert and interview stage Lee was fed salary figures, including commission, for the top salespeople, told that's what he could be achieving and he's not questioned it. Thus he's assumed that's normal and that he'll easily make enough sales to bring in a decent salary, so the family's assumptions wouldn't become an issue. He hadn't considered that those figures weren't what most people were likely to get or that getting the sales might not be easy. Obviously he knows now.

What's more I'd assume he's currently working in some kind of probationary period, say three months or six months, during which time he can be let go if he's not performing. That point can't be far away, given he's at the very bottom of the sales table, has already lied about being sick and lost his temper in the middle of the office.
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Old 21-11-2016, 12:54
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This whole storyline reminds me a bit about that storyline in 2001-ish when Barry Evans lost his job and Natalie was under the impression he was still working. He spent he days at a cafe, until Natalie found out. Of course the difference here is that Lee has a job but it's not a good one and he's terrible at it.

I'm not so surprised by Mick and Linda being oblivious although they should've raised an eyebrow by now. As his wife Whitney should've caught on not long ago IMO especially when seeing that Osman guy dressed down for a supposed city job. But Johnny and even Shirley should have been suspicious at this stage.

I guess the only person in the family who would've found out by now was Nancy but she's off travelling the world. She'd have been very good in this storyline which is a shame since she's a lot smarter than her both parents and Lee.
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Old 21-11-2016, 13:04
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This whole storyline reminds me a bit about that storyline in 2001-ish when Barry Evans lost his job and Natalie was under the impression he was still working. He spent he days at a cafe, until Natalie found out. Of course the difference here is that Lee has a job but it's not a good one and he's terrible at it.

I'm not so surprised by Mick and Linda being oblivious although they should've raised an eyebrow by now. As his wife Whitney should've caught on not long ago IMO especially when seeing that Osman guy dressed down for a supposed city job. But Johnny and even Shirley should have been suspicious at this stage.

I guess the only person in the family who would've found out by now was Nancy but she's off travelling the world. She'd have been very good in this storyline which is a shame since she's a lot smarter than her both parents and Lee.
BIB: Would she, though? Ultimately the reason all the Carters are playing dumb, even Johnny who is supposed to be an intelligent university student, is down to plot purposes. Lee needs time to work himself into a huge web of lies so if Nancy had been here she'd have either worked out what was happening but for some contrived reason decide not to say anything, or she'd have been as oblivious as the rest of them. I think they've essentially given Johnny Nancy's old role during this by having him find out about the loan but not the full extent of his lies.
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Old 21-11-2016, 13:10
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Honestly, Lee could tell them he's got a job as a Hollywood blockbuster actor and they'd probably fall for it!

Mick: "I'm pwoud of you son!"
Linda: "My Lee is now a star!"
Whitney: "With all that millions you're earning I've found the perfect mansion we can live in! Come on Lee let's buy it NOW!"
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Old 21-11-2016, 16:34
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Honestly, Lee could tell them he's got a job as a Hollywood blockbuster actor and they'd probably fall for it!

Mick: "I'm pwoud of you son!"
Linda: "My Lee is now a star!"
Whitney: "With all that millions you're earning I've found the perfect mansion we can live in! Come on Lee let's buy it NOW!"
Whitney may even have convinced them the house she found was on The Bishop's Avenue
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Old 21-11-2016, 17:18
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Whitney may even have convinced them the house she found was on The Bishop's Avenue
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Old 21-11-2016, 19:07
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It is very silly... it's lazy writing that they all just fawn over him with shit lines like "aww here's our businessy Lee, how was all the important executive business stuff darling? Did you make lots of important business deals? You've gotta look professional and flash and businessy and have those swinging pendulum things on your desk to be proper business like, just like every 90s cliche about working in the City."

Obviously Mick is clinically stupid, but surely the others can pool a few brain cells to figure out that 2 months working on a fish stall doesn't qualify you for a high flying investment bank career.
I actually think that is deliberate though. Nobody in that family has ever had an office job so all their preconceptions of what 'The City' is like comes from tv and films. Whitney probably thinks it is like Dynasty or Dallas.

This,will be even worse if he does have executive in his title as a poster suggested. They're unlikely to know that the title means nothing in itself and some really crappy jobs include it.
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Old 21-11-2016, 19:16
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The Carters probably think Lee has a job like the supervisor we keep seeing who's always reminding Lee of what a poor job he's doing. When Whitney met Lee at the back entrance to where he works that day, she assumed smart ass, Osman, was one of Lee's employees.
That was ridiculous. She seemed to assume that anybody that worked at the company must work for him. Even if he was management, he wouldn't be the only one, there would be others equal to him so why automatically think that they were lower rather than level or above? Does she think he is the CEO?

Don't get me started on her referring to hom as Lee's staff, to his face. Even if Lee had been his manager, that was crass. But she clearly doesn't know any better.
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Old 21-11-2016, 20:05
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Although I'm really enjoying Lee's storyline, it's clear he's told them he has some "flash" job just not exactly what. The fawning over him is so annoying.

Otherwise, it's a really good storyline.
Him stealing the charity jar was a big new low.

Interesting to see where it will all end.
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