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ED Feel a bit sorry for Pierce
They are obviously trying to make him a villain just so Rhona ends up back with annoying Paddy. Surely most people would be angry to be compared to a convicted child rapist? Rhona didn't even seem to be sympathetic towards him.
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Agree, it's a feeble attempt to make humpty look like a noble hero rather than the philandering man-child he actually is. Also what has any of this got to do with liv? If she's so worried about people hooking up with manipulative men with psychotic tendencies shouldn't she be sabotaging a relationship closer to home.
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Agree, it's a feeble attempt to make humpty look like a noble hero rather than the philandering man-child he actually is. Also what has any of this got to do with liv? If she's so worried about people hooking up with manipulative men with psychotic tendencies shouldn't she be sabotaging a relationship closer to home.
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His reaction was completely over the top. Liv was obviously saying that he's manipulative like Gordon, yet Pierce reacted like she'd just called him a molester.
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Pierce is a thoroughly nasty bit of goods. An insecure man who manipulates women and turns to violence when thwarted. It's no wonder that Tess left him.
Paddy was a fool, but has anyone considered what Tess saw in him? She saw a kind and gentle and loving man, and she went for it. An escape from the controlling brutish Pierce. Despite her youth, Liv can see through Pierce, and won't be manipulated, that's why he was so nasty towards her and that's why he's so angry. Someone has stood up to him. Rhona, meanwhile, has her concerns, and is becoming afraid of him. However, as a result of Pierce's manipulations, she's starting to blame herself for Pierce's brutish behaviour. She's turning herself into a doormat. This is the true classic example of domestic violence in development. Rhona needs to get out now, or she'll be found dead on the carpet. |
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His reaction was completely over the top. Liv was obviously saying that he's manipulative like Gordon, yet Pierce reacted like she'd just called him a molester.
But I agree though, I do believe Liv was referring to her father's manipulative side and I think Pierce's reaction was a bit extreme indeed. Kids say stupid things sometimes (though she was right about Pierce). You have to take it with a pinch of salt. |
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Most guys would've reacted angrily in that situation to be fair
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Paddy is the villain in all of this.
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Its all being painted so that man-child paddy can ride in on his white charger and rescue rhona ( yawn)
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Its all being painted so that man-child paddy can ride in on his white charger and rescue rhona ( yawn)
***** pukes **** I didn't blame Pierce for his reaction. Yes, maybe Liv meant he was manipulative but she still compared him to a convicted child molester, so yes, he's going to be angry about that. |
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Agree, it's a feeble attempt to make humpty look like a noble hero rather than the philandering man-child he actually is. Also what has any of this got to do with liv? If she's so worried about people hooking up with manipulative men with psychotic tendencies shouldn't she be sabotaging a relationship closer to home.
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Its all being painted so that man-child paddy can ride in on his white charger and rescue rhona ( yawn)
***** pukes **** And I have no freaking clue what that Livesey brat is doing in the story. Baffling. |
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Pierce is a thoroughly nasty bit of goods. An insecure man who manipulates women and turns to violence when thwarted. It's no wonder that Tess left him.
Paddy was a fool, but has anyone considered what Tess saw in him? She saw a kind and gentle and loving man, and she went for it. An escape from the controlling brutish Pierce. Despite her youth, Liv can see through Pierce, and won't be manipulated, that's why he was so nasty towards her and that's why he's so angry. Someone has stood up to him. Rhona, meanwhile, has her concerns, and is becoming afraid of him. However, as a result of Pierce's manipulations, she's starting to blame herself for Pierce's brutish behaviour. She's turning herself into a doormat. This is the true classic example of domestic violence in development. Rhona needs to get out now, or she'll be found dead on the carpet. As for Liv what a horrible little brat she is. Is there any evidence to suggest Pierce is like Gordon and in any case how is Pierce /Rhona any of her business? |
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His reaction was completely over the top. Liv was obviously saying that he's manipulative like Gordon, yet Pierce reacted like she'd just called him a molester.
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I would prefer if they addressed pierces anger issues. Not every man who has a temper is violent towards women
As for Liv what a horrible little brat she is. Is there any evidence to suggest Pierce is like Gordon and in any case how is Pierce /Rhona any of her business? |
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I hate this story line and everything about it. It's nothing but a ploy to get Rhona back with Paddy and a way to redeem Paddy after his affair, he will ride in on a white horse and save Rhona from abusive Pierce! Booo
Tess, never , ever indicated that he was anything close to a violent abuser, it's so contrived. Why not just leave Rhona with Pierce and have the relationship play out naturally. |
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I don't feel sorry for pierce at all, he manipulated his way into rhonnas life, has been trying to control her for weeks, can't just accept a child bettered him and get over it. The normal reaction surely would have been to tell Aaron or chas that liv was wasting money and causing problems for Rhonna. Not yell like a small child thwarted, and break a mirror scaring his partner.
Actually see him as just as much an over grown man child now as paddy ! |
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I hate this story line and everything about it. It's nothing but a ploy to get Rhona back with Paddy and a way to redeem Paddy after his affair, he will ride in on a white horse and save Rhona from abusive Pierce! Booo
Tess, never , ever indicated that he was anything close to a violent abuser, it's so contrived. Why not just leave Rhona with Pierce and have the relationship play out naturally. Tess may not have said much, abuse victims usually don't. But it was obvious from the start that her relationship with her husband wasn't normal. We thought at first that she was going to be the bunny boiler so they threw in a little twist there. Think of all the tricks Pierce played when he first got with Rhona to make Paddy look like a stalker - did you think that was normal? At least it appears from the spoilers that they are giving him a bit of back story to explain his problems - more than they normally do for their 'villains'. |
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I hate everything about this story. It's all engineered to make a hero of that woman bullying clown paddy.
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I think that the principal purpose of this story line is not the rehabilitation of Paddy, or the behaviour of Liv, or any other such thing. It is to raise public awareness of the new offence of coercive control, introduced in the Serious Crime Act 2015 (see https://www.gov.uk/government/upload...y_guidance.pdf).
I'm expecting, I'm afraid, that Leo will start to feature more in the storyline too. It's going to be nasty and brutish and we'll just have to go with it. |
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I don't feel sorry for pierce at all, he manipulated his way into rhonnas life, has been trying to control her for weeks, can't just accept a child bettered him and get over it. The normal reaction surely would have been to tell Aaron or chas that liv was wasting money and causing problems for Rhonna. Not yell like a small child thwarted, and break a mirror scaring his partner.
Actually see him as just as much an over grown man child now as paddy ! |
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I hate everything about this story. It's all engineered to make a hero of that woman bullying clown paddy.
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I am absolutely stunned that once again people seem happy to overlook Pierce and his violent outburst in fact not just overlook it, justify it?!!? Viewers dislike of Paddy means that they would prefer to see Rhona enter into a possibly abusive relationship just to prevent her getting back with Paddy?!
Coming from a home of domestic abuse I can honestly say that I find Pierce to be abhorrent. Anyone who thinks his disgraceful behaviour last night can be explained away as a bit of tantrum, justifiable because the local brat wound him up, is ridiculous. Liv was clearly out of order, but Rhona is right she's just a meddlesome child, whether she said something outrageous or not, there is not way that he had the right to speak to Rhona the way he did, and throw crap about, smashing mirrors. Paddy was right, what if Leo was there? Is that acceptable behaviour to display in front of an already vulnerable child?! Whether Pierce was violent with Tess or not, her death has clearly sent him into some kind of meltdown where he feels he has the right to exact vengeance on those who have wronged him. Anyone who believes he truly loves Rhona and isn't manipulating her to punish Paddy is deluded if you ask me!! |
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Plenty of evidence. She knows her father manipulated her during his prosecution and she is angry. However, she now knows manipulation when she sees it.
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Pierce is a thoroughly nasty bit of goods. An insecure man who manipulates women and turns to violence when thwarted. It's no wonder that Tess left him.
Paddy was a fool, but has anyone considered what Tess saw in him? She saw a kind and gentle and loving man, and she went for it. An escape from the controlling brutish Pierce. Despite her youth, Liv can see through Pierce, and won't be manipulated, that's why he was so nasty towards her and that's why he's so angry. Someone has stood up to him. Rhona, meanwhile, has her concerns, and is becoming afraid of him. However, as a result of Pierce's manipulations, she's starting to blame herself for Pierce's brutish behaviour. She's turning herself into a doormat. This is the true classic example of domestic violence in development. Rhona needs to get out now, or she'll be found dead on the carpet. |
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Where's the evidence Pierce is a paedophile?
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