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Why are Larry and Scarlett almost always exempt from doing the trials?
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Alrightmate
22-11-2016
Surely that's one of the key reasons why people want to see celebrities on the show?
Or do they think viewers want to watch them to see what they say in the Bush Telegraph?

Okay, if there are valid reasons why can't they just let us know?
Nobody is going to judge them badly if Larry has a dodgy hip or Scarlett has a condition of some sort.
If it's because of some private health detail which they're embarrassed about revealing I understand that, they don't have to go into depth. They can be vague. But they're not telling us anything.

For celebrities to go into this show and not be able to do the trials sort of misses the point of what the show is mainly about. Because it's not as if we see much of what goes on in there.
catslovelycats
22-11-2016
As you say, it's health issues.
I did wonder the other day, when 3 campers were exempt whether celebs should be allowed to join IAC if they have heath issues that stop them being able to take part. MAybe i'm being harsh. It just seems 'unfair' when campers aren't available for trials.
Alrightmate
22-11-2016
Originally Posted by catslovelycats:
“As you say, it's health issues.
I did wonder the other day, when 3 campers were exempt whether celebs should be allowed to join IAC if they have heath issues that stop them being able to take part. MAybe i'm being harsh. It just seems 'unfair' when campers aren't available for trials.”

I don't think you are being harsh. Because as I said it's part and parcel of the format.
If somebody isn't well they can always put them on the shortlist for next year's series.
A couple of times celebrities have had to leave the show early due to illness. You'd think that they should use the criteria that if they don't feel that celebrities are fit enough to do the trials then perhaps they are a liability in general and should perhaps be asked again next year instead.

The show is based around the hunter/gatherer theme, so if celebrities are incapable of 'hunting' for the tribe it defeats the object of the show. We tend to like to see celebrities go outside of their comfort zone and stretch themselves. And if a celebrity is picked on by the public and does well anyway in the face of adversity we find a new-found respect for them. It's all part of the experience for us and them..
viva.espana
22-11-2016
Maybe it's an overall fitness/insurance issue? Larry is 70ish(?) and while he seems really fit, I read somewhere that he had a serious bout of malaria not so long ago and that may have left him with some longterm health issues...?

Scarlett's exclusion, on the other hand, is a bit of a mystery. I know she can't swim so would be excluded from eg. underwater tasks but there doesn't seem to be much of a consistency in terms of the type of trials she's had exclusion from to date.
FusionFury
22-11-2016
Health issue my ***

They seem fine to me. Larry is an elderly person but Scarlett is winging it big-time, no risk involved with her in anything she does.. she is very PR controlled/managed.
Pitman
22-11-2016
chuck Scarlett in the river, call it 'sink or swim' I bet she swims
murrisk
22-11-2016
Both Larry and Scarlett have a problem with heights which is why they were neither on the rooftop nor in the helicopter. Also Scarlett could not possibly have been able to take part in the upcoming task as she cannot swim.
Pitman
22-11-2016
Originally Posted by murrisk:
“Both Larry and Scarlett have a problem with heights which is why they were neither on the rooftop nor in the helicopter. Also Scarlett could not possibly have been able to take part in the upcoming task as she cannot swim.”

she can't swim, can't boil an egg, can't change a plug, can't have a crap, quarter of a century on this Earth
FusionFury
22-11-2016
Originally Posted by Pitman:
“she can't swim, can't boil an egg, can't change a plug, can't have a crap, quarter of a century on this Earth ”

How does she manage in life? or do mummy and daddy do it all for her!?
Pitman
22-11-2016
Originally Posted by FusionFury:
“How does she manage in life? or do mummy and daddy do it all for her!? ”

her Dad goes round her flat if she needs a plug changing, that's what Dads are for, apparently

course her mum must boil her eggs and cut up her soldiers
blueabu
22-11-2016
But if Scarlett cant swim why was she in a canoe on the opening day?
Pitman
22-11-2016
Originally Posted by blueabu:
“But if Scarlett cant swim why was she in a canoe on the opening day?”

you don't need to swim if you have a canoe, maybe they should let her take her canoe into trials ?
Bedlam_maid
22-11-2016
Originally Posted by murrisk:
“Both Larry and Scarlett have a problem with heights which is why they were neither on the rooftop nor in the helicopter. Also Scarlett could not possibly have been able to take part in the upcoming task as she cannot swim.”

Some of the others were shaking like jellies in the rooftop challenge but they still did it. They were supported by harnesses anyway, it's not as though they were in danger. If it's a phobia of heights, then maybe Adam should be exempt from any bug trials - after all, he has a phobia of spiders. As far as I know, Scarlett's only problems is that she had Bell's Palsy once, and still has a bit of facial paralysis. I don't see why this would exempt her.

It's beyond a joke, sitting back expecting others to do the trials then scoffing the food.
slappers r us
22-11-2016
Im trying to think of some illness or disability that stops you from heights and water and I cant think of any

I read somewhere that Larry had a case of maleria and that Scarlett had Bells Palsy at one time but that doesnt stop you from going in the water, wasnt she photographed in a pool while on holiday?

if they are troubled by heights how the hell did they manage to get on an aeroplane to get there

inner ear trouble??? but then again flying would be a no no
kaycee
22-11-2016
Originally Posted by murrisk:
“Both Larry and Scarlett have a problem with heights which is why they were neither on the rooftop nor in the helicopter. Also Scarlett could not possibly have been able to take part in the upcoming task as she cannot swim.”

Ola has trouble with heights as well but she was on the rooftop.

Adam has a genuine fear of spiders, but faced his fear.

I know Scarlett can't swim - if only because Larry had to rescue her - but that isn't a health reason.
kaycee
22-11-2016
Originally Posted by FusionFury:
“How does she manage in life? or do mummy and daddy do it all for her!? ”

Possibly. She admits she doesn't work. No - watching tv for Gogglebox is NOT work.
DiamondDoll
22-11-2016
Originally Posted by FusionFury:
“Health issue my ***

They seem fine to me. Larry is an elderly person but Scarlett is winging it big-time, no risk involved with her in anything she does.. she is very PR controlled/managed.”

OK.
We'll send everyone to you for your expertise as a diagnostician.
Pitman
22-11-2016
the doctor passed her fit, but she broke down in tears and climbed on his knee
slappers r us
22-11-2016
Originally Posted by Bedlam_maid:
“Some of the others were shaking like jellies in the rooftop challenge but they still did it. They were supported by harnesses anyway, it's not as though they were in danger. If it's a phobia of heights, then maybe Adam should be exempt from any bug trials - after all, he has a phobia of spiders. As far as I know, Scarlett's only problems is that she had Bell's Palsy once, and still has a bit of facial paralysis. I don't see why this would exempt her.

It's beyond a joke, sitting back expecting others to do the trials then scoffing the food.”

I had a phobia of heights and could not get on an aeroplane I could not even drive over a main flyover in our area and made a 20 mile detour to avoid it I also used to throw up if I had to go up further than three steps on a ladder
(threw up on hubby once while trying to put up curtains)

The first time I flew or drove over anywhere high was 12 year ago when I was 48 after a year of exposure therapy, CBT and counselling

I still get worried about flying but I can now drive over heights and hang my curtains
cris182
22-11-2016
People saying they shouldn't be allowed on the show if they can't do trials, This isn't information that is dropped on the producers once the people are in the jungle, They know this before hand and still want the people so it's hardly likely to change

Not really much point complaining is there? They want person x, Person x can't do a trial they make a a choice. We have no say in it
Stockingfiller
22-11-2016
Ola can't swim either so it can't ge that it's just that Scarlett can't swim. Puzzling.
Verence
22-11-2016
Originally Posted by viva.espana:
“Maybe it's an overall fitness/insurance issue? Larry is 70ish(?) and while he seems really fit, I read somewhere that he had a serious bout of malaria not so long ago and that may have left him with some longterm health issues...? ”

Originally Posted by murrisk:
“Both Larry and Scarlett have a problem with heights which is why they were neither on the rooftop nor in the helicopter. Also Scarlett could not possibly have been able to take part in the upcoming task as she cannot swim.”

Someone was saying last night that Larry's malaria left him with hearing problems which may in turn cause him to have problems with balance

http://www.medicinenet.com/script/ma...ticlekey=21685

That would explain why he was excused from doing the BTT that involved climbing up scaffolding and bursting balloons
Blondie X
22-11-2016
Originally Posted by Pitman:
“she can't swim, can't boil an egg, can't change a plug, can't have a crap, quarter of a century on this Earth ”

I'm 20 years older than her and have never changed s plug, never boiled an egg and never been swimming snd I'm not a spoilt pampered princess
SuperSoaper
22-11-2016
I don't think anybody should be able to win if they don't do any of the trials.
calamity
22-11-2016
Originally Posted by viva.espana:
“Maybe it's an overall fitness/insurance issue? Larry is 70ish(?) and while he seems really fit, I read somewhere that he had a serious bout of malaria not so long ago and that may have left him with some longterm health issues...?

Scarlett's exclusion, on the other hand, is a bit of a mystery. I know she can't swim so would be excluded from eg. underwater tasks but there doesn't seem to be much of a consistency in terms of the type of trials she's had exclusion from to date.”

wasnt Bells Palsy mentioned about Scarlett, but it says she had it aged eleven, so why cant she do the tasks I wonder.
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