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Are some parents making people afraid to assist lost children
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anne_666
18-12-2016
Originally Posted by treefr0g:
“When I was about 15 I saved a girl in a swimming pool.

It was nothing heroic. I was standing in the pool and felt something tapping my leg. When I turned round I saw a little girl on the bottom of the pool.

I reached down and picked her up and naturally she latched onto me for dear life.

At the time it was an amazing feeling to be in the right place at the right time and maybe for that instant to be the most important person in somebody's life.

If this happened today, my first instinct would be to get the girl as far away from me as soon as possible. ”

You'd leave a child to drown?

Originally Posted by fw750x:
“20 odd Years ago i was Separated from my now exWife, And my self and my 3 Year old daughter used to get our Shopping go to the Pictures The park.Every week without fail i got Dirty Looks Mostly from women who had Made up their mind that i was a Child abductor . Unless its happened to you , You have no idea how that feels. Anyway if i saw a lost Child i would not Approach he/she But would alert Female shop staff or Security, I would if the child was near a road or Danger take the Child by the hand but that would be a last resort.”

You'd do what you could to help and not walk away.
Maxatoria
18-12-2016
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“You'd leave a child to drown?”

I'd imagine you'd create as much noise and attention so that theres no chance of the thought that you've managed to isolate the kid for some naughty business and thus the pools lifeguard can quickly take over charge and thus you spend as little time as possible near the kid reducing your chance of being called a fiddler.
Pumping Iron
18-12-2016
Originally Posted by treefr0g:
“When I was about 15 I saved a girl in a swimming pool.

It was nothing heroic. I was standing in the pool and felt something tapping my leg. When I turned round I saw a little girl on the bottom of the pool.

I reached down and picked her up and naturally she latched onto me for dear life.

At the time it was an amazing feeling to be in the right place at the right time and maybe for that instant to be the most important person in somebody's life.

If this happened today, my first instinct would be to get the girl as far away from me as soon as possible. ”

What's made you so paranoid?
petertree
18-12-2016
A small bit of advice. I have told my daughter to use my name rather than 'mummy' or 'mum' to attract my attention in a busy place. My ear distinguishes my name much clearer than trying to decide which mum is being called. Still works now she's in her thirties.
treefr0g
18-12-2016
Originally Posted by anne_666:
“You'd leave a child to drown?”

Of course not. I meant after saving the child.
Pitman
18-12-2016
Originally Posted by treefr0g:
“Of course not. I meant after saving the child.”

that's what I do when I save kids, just make sure they are ok then I quickly fly off
muggins14
18-12-2016
Originally Posted by petertree:
“A small bit of advice. I have told my daughter to use my name rather than 'mummy' or 'mum' to attract my attention in a busy place. My ear distinguishes my name much clearer than trying to decide which mum is being called. Still works now she's in her thirties.”

I used to tell my daughter to stand still if she's lost,both of us are looking for each other is ridiculous. Each time we go out I make a 'lost' point - a shop doorway or a seating area, depending on where we are (eg. if you're lost go and stand outside the Apple shop), where she should go and wait until I come and find her. She's only got lost twice - busy crowd - and this has worked for us.

ETA: Now she has a phone it's a lot easier of course.
jra
18-12-2016
Originally Posted by Swanandduck2:
“Someone in work is really upset about an incident yesterday. She was in a shopping centre and saw a little boy aged about 3 wandering around on his own. She went over and crouched down and started asking him where his mummy was, and could he point to the shop she was in etc. After a couple of minutes, a woman came along, glared at my colleague, took her child's hand and marched off. My colleague is saying that it's the last time she'll bother to get involved if she's going to be treated like an abductor.

She's not the first person I know who's had that experience, and I think it's really sad. I'm just wondering are some parents so suspicious and hostile that they're actually going to create situations where many people will now think twice about helping a lost child.”

As a male, I'd be very reluctant to assist any small child in case I was accused of being a paedophile/abductor. Phone 999 or show them the nearest shop/help point for example and ask the staff to deal with it, then leave. It's too risky these days for men to help young children out these days (paedophile) or women (potential rapist/sex pest).

Welcome to modern society. Enjoy the seeds that you've sown.
Nilrem
18-12-2016
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“I used to tell my daughter to stand still if she's lost,both of us are looking for each other is ridiculous. Each time we go out I make a 'lost' point - a shop doorway or a seating area, depending on where we are (eg. if you're lost go and stand outside the Apple shop), where she should go and wait until I come and find her. She's only got lost twice - busy crowd - and this has worked for us.

ETA: Now she has a phone it's a lot easier of course.”

That sounds like what my parents used to do when I was a kid, in Milton Keynes for example our "lost point" was the clock inside next to the doors to the Market as it was easy to find, had places to sit and was for a long time close to a manned desk/customer service spot where they did the lost child announcements.

Even to this day it's one of the points where we arrange to meet up.
Maxatoria
18-12-2016
Originally Posted by jra:
“As a male, I'd be very reluctant to assist any small child in case I was accused of being a paedophile/abductor. Phone 999 or show them the nearest shop/help point for example and ask the staff to deal with it, then leave. It's too risky these days for men to help young children out these days (paedophile) or women (potential rapist/sex pest).

Welcome to modern society. Enjoy the seeds that you've sown.”

Yep, and with more and more jobs requiring a DBS check anything slightly iffy on the response could cost you a new job its better for you to stand back and let someone who's paid to handle such things like a police officer sort out the problem if its not life threatening.

The other way to ensure you do not seem like a kiddie fiddler is generally to make as much noise and attract a crowd of people to watch your actions to have as many witnesses as possible.

Given my child holding skills are once when i was about 15 with my cousins oldest for a photo and since then zero interactions with the little bleeps i'll settle for letting someone (anyone) else to rescue the little 'darling' as i've got zero (at best) parenting skills and at my age I don't really fancy having to learn them.
anne_666
18-12-2016
Originally Posted by treefr0g:
“Of course not. I meant after saving the child.”


I do apologise for my misinterpretation and thank you for the clarification.
anne_666
18-12-2016
Originally Posted by muggins14:
“I used to tell my daughter to stand still if she's lost,both of us are looking for each other is ridiculous. Each time we go out I make a 'lost' point - a shop doorway or a seating area, depending on where we are (eg. if you're lost go and stand outside the Apple shop), where she should go and wait until I come and find her. She's only got lost twice - busy crowd - and this has worked for us.

ETA: Now she has a phone it's a lot easier of course.”

My parents used lost points which I carried on with my feral pack. Sadly they worked.
Soundbox
18-12-2016
Last year when crossing a local common I was called by a girl aged about 5 to help her friend as she had got tangled in the thorny wild rose bushes. I did assist after asking if they lived near and if so to get their parents. Turned out they lived a way off and should not have been that far from home. I tell you it felt REALLY awkward helping her get clear and despite the fact that we were alone I felt I was going to be shouted at or worse. I shouldn't have to feel like that for simply helping but that's the way it is.
Keyser_Soze1
18-12-2016
There was Lido in park when I was a toddler me and other kids went around in it naked (very vague memories plus seen a photo).

Can you imagine that today!

The mind boggles!
Resonance
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by Keyser_Soze1:
“There was Lido in park when I was a toddler me and other kids went around in it naked (very vague memories plus seen a photo).

Can you imagine that today!

The mind boggles! ”

We used to do the same on the beach. Most young kids did if they were paddling in the sea.
BlueEyedMrsP
19-12-2016
It's unfortunate your friend got that reaction, but I think most parents would be grateful. When my son was about 2 we lost him at the grocery store, it was one of those situations where his dad thought I had his hand and I thought he was going off with his dad. Stuff happens. He was gone for just a couple of minutes when I realised neither of us had him. Panic set in and a few seconds later a little old lady came around the end of an aisle holding his hand, my son just smiling away like nothing happened. We thanked her and she didn't try to make us feel guilty for losing track of him. I wouldn't hesitate to help what I thought was a lost child. I'd observe first though, sometimes mom or dad is just a few steps away and the kid isn't lost at all, perhaps just bewildered by bright lights and big crowds. I suppose the difficulty comes in when the child is genuinely lost. How long do you wait before making a phone call or walking away with them to an information/help desk?
Pumping Iron
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by Resonance:
“We used to do the same on the beach. Most young kids did if they were paddling in the sea.”

Still very common abroad where paedophobia isn't so rife.
Swanandduck2
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by Flubber.:
“I had a man recently point out a lost child to me. I'm currently carrying a 6 month old round in a sling everywhere i go so i get i make a good point person for this type of thing. I dont blame him i think my husband would do the same thing.

I know that 99.99 per cent of men are not peodophiles but i will still be teaching my daughter when she's old enough to understand that if she is ever seperated from us to go to someone in uniform for help or a women with a buggy.

This is a straightforward direction for a child to understand and its not about teaching children to fear adults but pointing out those who are more willing to help. Considering the response on this page it sounds like if a child was to go to a man for help he might rebuff them out of fear.”

Why would a woman with a buggy be more willing to help a lost child than any other woman?
Resonance
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by Pumping Iron:
“Still very common abroad where paedophobia isn't so rife.”

I doubt it's any less rife, just the perception of it is less. Same in the UK, I doubt there are more paedophiles now than when I was a toddler paddling naked in the sea. We just hear more about it.
Ben_Copland
19-12-2016
Originally Posted by Swanandduck2:
“Why would a woman with a buggy be more willing to help a lost child than any other woman?”

"Piss off kid, got enough to deal with here with these 2 shits screaming the shop down"
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