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To remove foreign objects, dust, dirt, hair etc. Can't remove that by cooking wouldn't want to eat any of that. Or let's put it this way what are you hoping to achieve when you wash veg?
If you have good food hygiene you won't need to worry about spreading bacteria. Do you wash everything - sausages, steaks, pasta, pies? That would be silly, wouldn't it? Why is a chicken more likely to have 'foreign objects' on it than anything else? |
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Where are people buying these chickens covered in hair and foreign objects? Sounds like someone's been playing football with them
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To remove foreign objects, dust, dirt, hair etc. Can't remove that by cooking wouldn't want to eat any of that. Or let's put it this way what are you hoping to achieve when you wash veg?
If you have good food hygiene you won't need to worry about spreading bacteria. As has already been said, good food hygiene means not washing a chicken for no reason whatsoever. |
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I have been cooking chicken for 40 plus years & I have never washed it before cooking, nor do I ever intend to.
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Do you mean chicken pieces? I wouldn't cook a whole chicken from frozen. Meat is quite a good insulator, and ice takes a lot of energy to melt, and salmonella can live deep in the muscle. Those three facts make it hard to cook a whole chicken from frozen and be sure there are no cold spots with living bacteria.
. But I used to know a lot of people who seemed to think it was actually poisonous to cook it from frozen, which it's definitely not. |
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That stollen is edible.
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Yeah, pieces, a whole chicken would cook too unevenly.
But I used to know a lot of people who seemed to think it was actually poisonous to cook it from frozen, which it's definitely not. |
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People who say you don't need to be concerned about calories if the food your eating is what they deem nutritionally "good".
Ok - eat 10000calories worth of quinoa and butternut squash a day and you won't end up 40 stone |
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Chicken is far more contaminated by bacteria than it used to be thanks to intensively rearing them and the overuse of antibiotics in order to allow them to rear them in such awful conditions. Washing them simply spreads the bacteria around as has been said previously and is a dangerous thing to do. I prefer chickens that come oven ready in a roasting bag, more hygienic than having to handle it and it keeps the oven clean!
Antibiotic resistance in animals we eat is becoming a huge problem as it is in people
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Carbohydrates are the great evil.
Better to smoke than eat pasta. |
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The only reason to wash veg is when it's straight out of the ground, to get rid of any loose earth clinging to them. Bacteria is not killed by a rinse in water and pesticides are lipid and won't wash away under a tap (they break down very quickly anyway).
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I prefer chickens that come oven ready in a roasting bag, more hygienic than having to handle it and it keeps the oven clean!
I've perfected the art of not touching chicken with my hands. I use utensils if necessary, to put it straight into the roasting dish. If I am cutting up chicken for home hooked pet food, I cut it up without touching by spearing it with a fork and using some sharp scissors - in the pan it is being cooked in. It doesn't go near a work surface. But if there is any accidental contact, I clean up with a spray and paper towels - not a dishcloth. Anything that has been in contact with the chicken gets disinfected and washed separately in the sink. OK I'm paranoid.... ![]() Edit Just realised I could use my disposable latex gloves - bought originally for doing the dog's anal glands or setting the outside rat trap
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Chicken is far more contaminated by bacteria than it used to be thanks to intensively rearing them and the overuse of antibiotics in order to allow them to rear them in such awful conditions. Washing them simply spreads the bacteria around as has been said previously and is a dangerous thing to do. I prefer chickens that come oven ready in a roasting bag, more hygienic than having to handle it and it keeps the oven clean!
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The 5 second rule
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Pre-packed fresh chickens used to include instructions to wash them (along with cooking instructions), so anyone following those would have been liberally spraying bacteria around their kitchen.
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I've tried those (from a supermarket) but to me they are not the same quality as chicken from a trusted source - say a small local butcher.
I've perfected the art of not touching chicken with my hands. I use utensils if necessary, to put it straight into the roasting dish. If I am cutting up chicken for home hooked pet food, I cut it up without touching by spearing it with a fork and using some sharp scissors - in the pan it is being cooked in. It doesn't go near a work surface. But if there is any accidental contact, I clean up with a spray and paper towels - not a dishcloth. Anything that has been in contact with the chicken gets disinfected and washed separately in the sink. OK I'm paranoid.... ![]() Edit Just realised I could use my disposable latex gloves - bought originally for doing the dog's anal glands or setting the outside rat trap ![]() I couldn't cook properly without handling food. My roast chicken gets massaged with salt and pepper and olive oil and rubbed and then stuffed with garlic and lemon. I can't do that without using my hands. |
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I was reading last week that something like 70% of whole supermarket chickens contain the salmonella bug so must be cooked long enough to kill it. Was gobsmacked that the number was so high!
I had visions of people eating it medium rare and thinking that was ok. |
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I nearly wrote the sushi one myself.
Another one from a recent thread in general that I agree with. The best sausages have the highest meat content. My favourite sausages usually have other ingredients other than meat, such as caramelised red onions, apple, cheese, leeks, herbs and spices, curry paste in them and I think a small amount of breadcrumbs only improves the sausage. 70-80% meat is about right IMO, if using good quality meat. |
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I don't like people who are closed minded about food, the "I know what I like" types. They're so ****ing dull! And they sit, picking at their food and ordering beige meals no matter what country they visit.
I know people will say they are entitled to like what they like and I agree, but I'm also entitled to think they're closed minded dullards. |
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I don't like people who are closed minded about food, the "I know what I like" types. They're so ****ing dull! And they sit, picking at their food and ordering beige meals no matter what country they visit.
I know people will say they are entitled to like what they like and I agree, but I'm also entitled to think they're closed minded dullards.
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I hate sausages with a really high pork content. They have a horrible texture. If i wanted pure pork, i would eat a pork chop.
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It tastes fine, it tastes the same as if you'd cooked it from fresh.
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I nearly wrote the sushi one myself.
Another one from a recent thread in general that I agree with. The best sausages have the highest meat content. My favourite sausages usually have other ingredients other than meat, such as caramelised red onions, apple, cheese, leeks, herbs and spices, curry paste in them and I think a small amount of breadcrumbs only improves the sausage. 70-80% meat is about right IMO, if using good quality meat. Quote:
I always wash so called pre washed bagged salad. In fact I prefer not to buy bagged at all but when you are a single person household - to get variety in a salad you would have to buy one of everything and would end up throwing half of it away.
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Vine-ripened tomatoes. Sold on the actual vine with fruits of varying sizes from large to tiny. All ripened at the same time - amazing!
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I don't like people who are closed minded about food, the "I know what I like" types. They're so ****ing dull! And they sit, picking at their food and ordering beige meals no matter what country they visit.
I know people will say they are entitled to like what they like and I agree, but I'm also entitled to think they're closed minded dullards. We were in a tour group and two people moved to another table immediately (to enjoy their burger and chips without being upset) but a "veggie" next to me said "Your choice, I'm not offended". I was more peed off by the person opposite who wouldn't order it but badgered me for a taste before I'd even tasted it myself. |
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