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Ore is presenting This Morning with Holly
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Mrs Checks
24-11-2016
I caught a few minutes, they were doing a section on Ore's phobia of birds. He was sat in a room with a parrot looking terrified but trying to play it down.

Needless to say (no offence at all to Ore, whom I think is great), I turned it off.

I'm sure I saw Anita Rani presenting This Morning during the summer so the theories of showcasing BBC staff via Strictly probably have a lot of truth to them.
tealover
24-11-2016
I had never seen him prior to the Olympics in Rio.

I found his presenting style there, wandering around the Olympic village catching quick chats with passing people and competitors, very enjoyable, his personality came across as warm and sparky, full of quick come backs, great fun to watch.

I have found him stilted totally in SCD, his personality is very restrained so much so I cannot warm to him today.

I watched a cuppa's worth of THis morning today - the section where they finished doing some Black Friday bargains, and then met the Father and his sons whom Holly had previously met, talking about "Mum's list" book and film.......he didn't really say much, hopped up and down every time Holly stood up but didn't really have much of a "part". Felt a bit sorry for him, but it was only a short section.

So actually - stick to being a roaming sports reporter because it really suits you and you seem to feel very comfortable in it.
Pontywarrior
24-11-2016
Originally Posted by Sho Nuff:
“What's the betting he doesn't return as a BBC Sports Presenter after Strictly ”

Happy days - we can but hope!

I really don't see what some people here do, I find him cringeworthy and did so before he appeared on SCD.

I am a sports fan and watch BBC Breakfast not a fan yet I appear to know more about him than some so called 'fans'!
Doghouse Riley
24-11-2016
Originally Posted by StrictlyEastend:
“You make very good points. ”

Thanks for that.

As a retired businessman, I look at what happens in the TV industry from that point of view. I'm often accused of being cynical, though I prefer to think of it as being able to work out, "what's in it for whom?"
I like to think I can recognise "corporate PR and Spin."
slappers r us
25-11-2016
Originally Posted by Sho Nuff:
“What's the betting he doesn't return as a BBC Sports Presenter after Strictly ”

Oh god he is going to be popping up like a jack in the box filling in for every presenter on holiday isnt he

hope he gets better than he was this morning
snafu65
25-11-2016
Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley:
“It's all part of his "career development."

Someone at the BBC a while back might have decided he had potential, but if he were to attract television viewers, his profile needed to be raised.
That's why he is doing Strictly.

I did say at the beginning of Strictly, that his inclusion, though he be relatively unknown, (I'd never heard of him) that this was likely to happen.

Maybe ITV made him a better offer than the BBC, or maybe he has no contract with them, which seems strange.

They were also trying to make Naga "more viewer friendly," that's why she was in it. Unfortunately, it didn't work. In the earlier stages when popularity is more important than being an improving dancer, she obviously wasn't.

They might have had similar plans for Laura, though there again, it might have been a case of inviting someone from "the opposition," to deflect any criticisms of bias.

Although she has worked for the BBC, she's probably freelance.
If she'd proved popular, they might have offered her a job, this still might happen

Still, "one out of three ain't bad."

You can't beat an appearance on Strictly, as an opportunity for improving your "market value."”

In a nutshell this. It's why most young, up and coming people do Strictly in the first place.
ianmatt
25-11-2016
Originally Posted by Doghouse Riley:
“It's all part of his "career development."

Someone at the BBC a while back might have decided he had potential, but if he were to attract television viewers, his profile needed to be raised.
That's why he is doing Strictly.

I did say at the beginning of Strictly, that his inclusion, though he be relatively unknown, (I'd never heard of him) that this was likely to happen.

Maybe ITV made him a better offer than the BBC, or maybe he has no contract with them, which seems strange.

They were also trying to make Naga "more viewer friendly," that's why she was in it. Unfortunately, it didn't work. In the earlier stages when popularity is more important than being an improving dancer, she obviously wasn't.

They might have had similar plans for Laura, though there again, it might have been a case of inviting someone from "the opposition," to deflect any criticisms of bias.

Although she has worked for the BBC, she's probably freelance.
If she'd proved popular, they might have offered her a job, this still might happen

Still, "one out of three ain't bad."

You can't beat an appearance on Strictly, as an opportunity for improving your "market value."”

I agree with what you say SCD is a vehicle for testing the water for BBC looking for presenters for peaktime shows.

I believe though their talent spotting is flawed, they look for appearance and subordination than real talent. Oduba looks another in a long line of wooden performers in key slots of which the current SCD presenters are perfect examples.

More Obuba on TV would be bad and typical of the modern BBC, a sycophant of the most obvious proportions. He has the potential to match the very worst of those the BBC can put up Winkleman or Baker
postit
25-11-2016
Originally Posted by slappers r us:
“Oh god he is going to be popping up like a jack in the box filling in for every presenter on holiday isnt he

hope he gets better than he was this morning”

I thought he was excellent. Ore is such a personable presenter and he made the programme his own.
lulu g
25-11-2016
I only saw a little bit of the programme, but I thought he was doing OK, certainly a million miles better than the awful Rylan, and two million miles better than Rylan's dreadful husband.
Fatima502
25-11-2016
Originally Posted by Mrs Checks:
“I caught a few minutes, they were doing a section on Ore's phobia of birds. He was sat in a room with a parrot looking terrified but trying to play it down.

Needless to say (no offence at all to Ore, whom I think is great), I turned it off.

I'm sure I saw Anita Rani presenting This Morning during the summer so the theories of showcasing BBC staff via Strictly probably have a lot of truth to them.”

They'e not "BBC staff", they're independent contractors
mimi dlc
25-11-2016
Originally Posted by Fatima502:
“They'e not "BBC staff", they're independent contractors”

Absolutely. Most presenters like Ore and Naga will be freelance, contacted to do certain hours or programmes for the BBC. They will be doing non-TV corporate work for other companies and organisations, who do employ them because of the public profile they have created through the BBC.

The idea that "they" at the BBC are masterminding Ore's upward career trajectory is most amusing. On the contrary, working too hard to promote an presenter can backfire, like when Susanna Reid - after proclaiming she had "BBC running through her like a stick of rock" - upped and left for ITV and doubtless a bigger pay cheque.

Louise Rainbow is not interested in raising Ore's profile, she wants contestants that make people watch strictly. She's hit gold with Never Danced Before Ore.

There are people who have a vested interest in raising Ore's profile.
Ore and his agent, who are doing a very good job thank you very much.
ianmatt
25-11-2016
Originally Posted by mimi dlc:
“Absolutely. Most presenters like Ore and Naga will be freelance, contacted to do certain hours or programmes for the BBC. They will be doing non-TV corporate work for other companies and organisations, who do employ them because of the public profile they have created through the BBC.

The idea that "they" at the BBC are masterminding Ore's upward career trajectory is most amusing. On the contrary, working too hard to promote an presenter can backfire, like when Susanna Reid - after proclaiming she had "BBC running through her like a stick of rock" - upped and left for ITV and doubtless a bigger pay cheque.

Louise Rainbow is not interested in raising Ore's profile, she wants contestants that make people watch strictly. She's hit gold with Never Danced Before Ore.

There are people who have a vested interest in raising Ore's profile.
Ore and his agent, who are doing a very good job thank you very much.”

Oduba is hardly striking gold, most of the interest has been generated by Balls, Oduba has barely raised a ripple other than as a big headed irritant. The only way he will get an upward trejectory is through the BBC. Reid was one of the few BBC presenters of real quality to lose her was very careless and she is now building a promising partnership with Morgan.
Baz_James
25-11-2016
Originally Posted by ianmatt:
“Oduba is hardly striking gold, most of the interest has been generated by Balls, Oduba has barely raised a ripple other than as a big headed irritant. The only way he will get an upward trejectory is through the BBC. Reid was one of the few BBC presenters of real quality to lose her was very careless and she is now building a promising partnership with Morgan.”

There appear to be several possibilities here ..

1) you actually don't have any idea of the meaning of these words

2) you haven't actually watched SCD at all

3) you have mistaken Ore for another person altogether

4) you are on day release from a psychiatric institution and your minder has forgotten that you're not allowed on the Internet

I know which one I'm favouring!
penelopesimpson
26-11-2016
Originally Posted by NotaTypo:
“Tru dat! Anyway, I can't imagine Ore would have been top of the list as a stand in prior to Strictly. Jay McGuinness went from some guy from a boyband to lead role in Big The Musical, Tom Chambers parlayed his Strictly win into a West End lead and it's increased the profile of a lot of contestants. Strictly is a great shop window.”

Unless you are Will Young
sugar puff
28-11-2016
I thought Ore did a good job on This Morning, much better than most of the stand ins they have had. There were a couple of awkward moments, but nothing terrible, that he can't learn from.

However, what I did find awkward was the amount of touching he did - of Holly. At one point he put his arm round her, and there were various other touchy feeley moments. Could be just his way, or maybe because he's used to it from Strictly where they always stand arm in arm. But was it ok with Holly?

What I think he'd be great at is narrating - not that he doesn't look good, but I love his voice and his tone is perfect for reading a script.
bornfree
28-11-2016
Originally Posted by Sho Nuff:
“What's the betting he doesn't return as a BBC Sports Presenter after Strictly ”

Thats why he is on strictly. A bit of career development. Susannah did the same.
Skyrah
28-11-2016
Originally Posted by Sho Nuff:
“What's the betting he doesn't return as a BBC Sports Presenter after Strictly ”

Ore is still the BBC Sports Reporter...

He was on BBC Breakfast this morning doing a VT about the Sports Personality of the Year, which he is also one of the Judges this year
MistyMorn
28-11-2016
Originally Posted by Pontywarrior:
“He is already a presenter???

He is a sports presenter on BBC Breakfast as well as presenting other programmes.

I am somewhat confused as to why this appears to be 'news'??

Am I missing something? ”

I'm just surprised he has been reporting on ITV while still with the BBC.

I like him as a presenter but for some reason I find him a annoying on Strictly.
mimi dlc
28-11-2016
Originally Posted by Skyrah:
“Ore is still the BBC Sports Reporter...

He was on BBC Breakfast this morning doing a VT about the Sports Personality of the Year, which he is also one of the Judges this year ”

I saw that clip this morning, and found him natural and engaging.
So why do I want to throw my slippers at the TV when he opens his mouth on Strictly?
VintageWhine
29-11-2016
Originally Posted by Baz_James:
“There appear to be several possibilities here ..

1) you actually don't have any idea of the meaning of these words

2) you haven't actually watched SCD at all

3) you have mistaken Ore for another person altogether

4) you are on day release from a psychiatric institution and your minder has forgotten that you're not allowed on the Internet

I know which one I'm favouring!”

Too many personal attacks in these forums. Posters should be able to make comments about TV shows without being vilified.
Dervlathedog
29-11-2016
Originally Posted by VintageWhine:
“Too many personal attacks in these forums. Posters should be able to make comments about TV shows without being vilified.”

Or to rephrase, posters should be allowed to vilify people on TV without being personally attacked

If there must be vilification, I think that what you say has to be right. (Just not s u r e there absolutely has to be vilification)
VintageWhine
29-11-2016
Originally Posted by Dervlathedog:
“Or to rephrase, posters should be allowed to vilify people on TV without being personally attacked

If there must be vilification, I think that what you say has to be right. (Just not s u r e there absolutely has to be vilification)”

Well, exactly right. Though in this case, a passing comment about being mildly irritated with someone's behaviour hardly qualifies for the description of vilification.

It seems to me that a lot of forum members don't seem to appreciate the difference between critical comments about TV shows (which are after all what these forums are all about), and personal abuse directed at other forum members.
Pontywarrior
29-11-2016
I am sat here with a confused face........ why are people critiquing his ability on This Morning as a presenter? THAT'S HIS JOB!!!!!

Am I missing something?
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