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Old 25-11-2016, 14:55
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Paul should have definitely gone, but so did Jessica. It's painful seeing how incapable she is of stringing a simple sentence together in the boardroom without choking and desperately going for the water.
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Old 25-11-2016, 14:59
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I've just caught up with last nights programme. What a pooping mess-up by both teams. Did either of the venues claim compensation? Some random thoughts.
Paul's team seemed to go off with hardly any planning, witness the pricing/food fiasco. If I was promised a mermaid I'd at least expect her to be in a tank swimming around. It has been done before (remember a stage show that toured the country in the early 70s put on by Raymond's Revuebar, anyone?). MrsJ and I both had views on Francis' chats with Paul, making comments similar to those used on "The Apprentice-ish" follow up programme.
We expected a triple firing, and Jessica should certainly go. Next load of tears and she's out!, and can someone tell her to talk slower. It will be interesting to see how a group of amateurs can come up with a computer game in a couple of days, when it takes professionals months.
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Old 25-11-2016, 17:09
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I've just caught up with last nights programme. What a pooping mess-up by both teams. Did either of the venues claim compensation? Some random thoughts.
Paul's team seemed to go off with hardly any planning, witness the pricing/food fiasco. If I was promised a mermaid I'd at least expect her to be in a tank swimming around. It has been done before (remember a stage show that toured the country in the early 70s put on by Raymond's Revuebar, anyone?). MrsJ and I both had views on Francis' chats with Paul, making comments similar to those used on "The Apprentice-ish" follow up programme.
We expected a triple firing, and Jessica should certainly go. Next load of tears and she's out!, and can someone tell her to talk slower. It will be interesting to see how a group of amateurs can come up with a computer game in a couple of days, when it takes professionals months.
All pretty random this week. Why wouldn't you ask for your money back if subjected to Courtney's shockingly bad tour, or swimming mermaids who didnt swim. And why was there only a 10% penalty ? And how can you sell the same ticket to different people at different prices and not get comeback?

Paul was deadful, he said things wee included to justify a high price, when thye were not, then changed it multiple times. Avoided the main selling task to be safe, and just fumed when things went wrong. Jressica probably arrived at the right price, but was then undercut and Trishna produced a good tour , Everyone else was pretty hopeless.
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Old 25-11-2016, 19:03
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Old 25-11-2016, 19:09
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Thing is, it's easy for us all to sit at home on the sofa and criticise but could any of us do any better, I wonder? They are under enormous time pressure for these tasks, remember. Real events are weeks if not months in the planning.
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Old 25-11-2016, 19:11
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Thing is, it's easy for us all to sit at home on the sofa and criticise but could any of us do any better, I wonder?
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Old 25-11-2016, 20:01
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Thing is, it's easy for us all to sit at home on the sofa and criticise but could any of us do any better, I wonder? They are under enormous time pressure for these tasks, remember. Real events are weeks if not months in the planning.
By and large, candidates do a good job given the pressure they are under, although in the early tasks they make it a lot harder for themselves by flat out refusing to work as a team.

But on almost every task they shoot themselves in the foot by not planning properly. There is no strategy. Prices are plucked out of thin air, and they go haring across London at the drop of a hat.

Take this week -- Jessica was in a Dutch auction with herself to see who could sell the cheapest tickets, and Frances and Paul decimated the food to save an insignificant amount compared to the ticket price. Probably a fiver's worth of smoked salmon would have sufficed for the canapes, or about 10p a person. Both show that no-one was thinking about pricing or income vs expenses.
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Old 25-11-2016, 20:11
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By and large, candidates do a good job given the pressure they are under, although in the early tasks they make it a lot harder for themselves by flat out refusing to work as a team.
I do wonder if it might be better to have older business people applying for this show, say in their 40s or even 50s. That much more experience and acumen and less aggression. But then of course it wouldn't be so watchable, no eye candy or stilt heels or thrusting young whippersnappers! But as a one-off it might be quite entertaining.
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Old 27-11-2016, 03:02
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Its an interesting question as to whether they fail to ask the obvious questions - how many people , like - whats the expected price range, do we include food, can the mermaids swim, how many can do the tou? . Are they thick, or just too tired and stressed? Or doomed by a bad leader? Or do they not bother because they have no way of finding out what the norms are ? Or do they get divided, with limited communications, at a point when they have to make decisions before gathering the data , or deciding what they are doing?

This week Paul was too thick to want to be bothered by questions - has been for weeks - but things went wrong as soon as they had to think of a price for early customers - before they had got any data on prices, or costs, or content. It would be difficult not to get that key initial price wrong.
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Old 27-11-2016, 06:03
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Its an interesting question as to whether they fail to ask the obvious questions - how many people , like - whats the expected price range, do we include food, can the mermaids swim, how many can do the tou? . Are they thick, or just too tired and stressed? Or doomed by a bad leader? Or do they not bother because they have no way of finding out what the norms are ? Or do they get divided, with limited communications, at a point when they have to make decisions before gathering the data , or deciding what they are doing?

This week Paul was too thick to want to be bothered by questions - has been for weeks - but things went wrong as soon as they had to think of a price for early customers - before they had got any data on prices, or costs, or content. It would be difficult not to get that key initial price wrong.
Lack of imagination and intelligence to a degree but I think a bigger factor is that for the most part, the candidates have no experience of working in teams; they are lone traders or bosses. Grainne and Courtney managed first to overbook the tour, and then over-refund it while working in the same room: teamwork is clearly not a factor. And of course, they are all aware that at the end of the process, this is an individual not a team competition.

Tiredness by now is also kicking in. You can see some candidates starting to wilt, drift in and out of tasks, and fly off the handle or break down. No-one thinks clearly when they are out on their feet.

But mainly teamwork.
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Old 28-11-2016, 12:27
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Hiya Genius and you are one of those re the above. Shall I ring up Tussauds and ask them to get the wax out as you want to be famous

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What else am I meant to do? He's got me over a barrel. You don't know what its like man, you were never in 'Nam...
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