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Old 28-11-2016, 12:58
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I think it brings out everyone's personal most-hated episode.
Amazingly, it wasn't until the last couple of series that my list of hated episodes has grown and grown. Until then, it was a very, very small list!
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Old 28-11-2016, 13:20
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Amazingly, it wasn't until the last couple of series that my list of hated episodes has grown and grown. Until then, it was a very, very small list!
Absorbalof always took quite a bit of space up on my list
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Old 28-11-2016, 13:32
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Absorbalof always took quite a bit of space up on my list
Until Peter took over, my list of hated episodes only consisted of Love & Monsters, Fear Her, Voyage of the Damned, The Snowmen and A Town Called Mercy.

Even the Gatiss episode during that time (which I dislike but not hate) haven't got me as much as those episodes.

Then, now since Peter's been in the role, the list has grown quite considerably. It's easier to say what I've liked rather than disliked during his time....and that isn't much!

(Oh, and I absolutely adored The Doctor, the Widow and the Wardrobe as an episode by the way. One of my favourites, ever! )
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Old 28-11-2016, 18:39
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The Daleks Masterplan, The Massacre, The Silurians, Inferno???

Dalek Masterplan and Inferno very much an exception to the rule in their respective Seasons. Don't like The Massacre that much and The Silurians is just one long borefest bar a few notable scenes.

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Old 28-11-2016, 19:30
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4 brilliant stories IMO, but there we go. Different tastes. So why and , man?

Really like The Ark, The Gunfighters (great fun), The Savages and The War Machines too. Oh, and Heaven Sent is an absolute classic.

Slipped that in after Mulett's post.
No offence meant. Davey is someone I get on well with on here, and I was just genuinely surprised, that's all.
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Old 28-11-2016, 21:01
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I love how every time Love & Monsters is mentioned here, an enormously long thread results.
It must have something going for it!

I think because it was the original 'bad' new who episode for so many, that opens up the floor to a general discussion of bad episodes in new who in general. It also creates a lot of discussion because some still hate it, some never hated it, and some have better feelings towards it now because their have been much worse episodes since.

For me, at one time it was the worst, but there are so many in the Moffat era that are worse.

In The Forest of the Night seems to be generally agreed as the worse these days.
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Old 28-11-2016, 21:35
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I liked "the one with the leaf", apart from the comedy alien you couldn't understand, and the song. Who was playing the bass guitar? It was early days for Clara 3, and I was hopeful
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Old 29-11-2016, 09:24
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Until Peter took over, my list of hated episodes only consisted of Love & Monsters, Fear Her, Voyage of the Damned, The Snowmen and A Town Called Mercy.

Even the Gatiss episode during that time (which I dislike but not hate) haven't got me as much as those episodes.

Then, now since Peter's been in the role, the list has grown quite considerably. It's easier to say what I've liked rather than disliked during his time....and that isn't much!

(Oh, and I absolutely adored The Doctor, the Widow and the Wardrobe as an episode by the way. One of my favourites, ever! )
With the exception of the last line which is a story I loathe, I agree
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Old 29-11-2016, 19:07
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I love how every time Love & Monsters is mentioned here, an enormously long thread results.
It must have something going for it!
Regardless of quality, it's still a rather unique episode. Single worst episode of C21 Doctor Who yet? Definitely. An experimental and daring attempt? Definitely.

It sure had that going for it, as well as an enticing premise, it's just a shame what a joke the end product was.
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Old 29-11-2016, 20:53
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It's so easy for a Moffat fanboy/girl to choose their worst RTD era episode as there are so few bad ones to choose from (L&M isn't one of them). Much harder for an RTD fanboy/girl to choose their worst Moffat era episode as there are so many bad ones to choose from!
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Old 30-11-2016, 01:26
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It's so easy for a Moffat fanboy/girl to choose their worst RTD era episode as there are so few bad ones to choose from (L&M isn't one of them). Much harder for an RTD fanboy/girl to choose their worst Moffat era episode as there are so many bad ones to choose from!
Yep I swear to God Love and Monsters and The Slitheen are the go to for Moffat fans when trying to discredit the RTD Era.
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Old 30-11-2016, 01:35
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Yep I swear to God Love and Monsters and The Slitheen are the go to for Moffat fans when trying to discredit the RTD Era.
So any criticism must be work of Moffat fans? What is with this division as well, it is the same show...
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Old 30-11-2016, 03:00
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Yep I swear to God Love and Monsters and The Slitheen are the go to for Moffat fans when trying to discredit the RTD Era.
I am _not_ a Moffat fan (understatement of the year!) and I am not a fan of Love and Monsters. That said, it is still better than many, many Moffat stories (Rings of Akhatan, The Doctor, The Widow and the Wardrobe, Series 8, Series 9, etc.).
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Old 30-11-2016, 09:29
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It's so easy for a Moffat fanboy/girl to choose their worst RTD era episode as there are so few bad ones to choose from (L&M isn't one of them). Much harder for an RTD fanboy/girl to choose their worst Moffat era episode as there are so many bad ones to choose from!
Naughty Boz.

It could be argued that many Moffat era episodes missed the mark because, as a showrunner, he's willing to try new ideas, and they don't always work.

To be fair, there were a fair few episodes in RTD's time that made me groan a bit. It's just that overall I think of his tenure as fast and fun, edge of seat sometimes, nicely sentimental at other times.

And Moffat's contribution to those years was up there with the best.

With Moff it's the other way round. There have been some brilliant episodes, but against a rather dull background. And the last two series have been overall very dreary.
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Old 30-11-2016, 09:30
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So any criticism must be work of Moffat fans? What is with this division as well, it is the same show...
Fan A: Farting Aliens!
Fan B: Egg Moon!
Fan A: Paving slab Ursula!
Fan B: Eye Bogey Monster!
Fan A: Birdcage Elf Doctor!
Fan B: Fat Daleks!

etc That's fandom for yer!

Guess there are plenty of Fan C's who've enjoyed both eras, warts and all, mind. And going by some tinternet places, Fan D's who think it's *all* been sh!te from 'Rose' on and is an insult to C20 Who!
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Old 04-12-2016, 18:04
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I am _not_ a Moffat fan (understatement of the year!) and I am not a fan of Love and Monsters. That said, it is still better than many, many Moffat stories (Rings of Akhatan, The Doctor, The Widow and the Wardrobe, Series 8, Series 9, etc.).
To be honest I'd rather watch that stuff again than Love and Monsters which is one of the worst Doctor Who stories ever. That stuff you mentioned is great in comparison.
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Old 05-12-2016, 05:26
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To be honest I'd rather watch that stuff again than Love and Monsters which is one of the worst Doctor Who stories ever. That stuff you mentioned is great in comparison.
I respect the difference in opinion. However, nothing will ever convince me that The Doctor, The Widow and The Wardrobe has any redeeming qualities whatsoever. It makes Love and Monsters look like Romeo and Juliet.
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Old 05-12-2016, 07:21
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Is it wrong that we completely skipped 'Fear Her' and went straight to 'Army of Ghosts'?
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Old 05-12-2016, 09:38
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Is it wrong that we completely skipped 'Fear Her' and went straight to 'Army of Ghosts'?
Yes, very wrong. As a punishment you must watch Heaven Sent 10 times.
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Old 05-12-2016, 10:04
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Yes, very wrong. As a punishment you must watch Heaven Sent 10 times.

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Old 05-12-2016, 10:45
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I actually thought, like L&M, the first 2/3rds of 'Fear Her' was alright! Not even remotely original like that story (part 'Paperhouse', part 'Sapphire & Steel, part 'Twilight Zone') though; and then like L&M it went completely to pieces! Poor Huw Edwards (and his poor disappearing mate! Was it Geoff?) and the whole picking up the torch stuff on was absolutely excruciating. By the time we got to the the Doctor whoo-hooing and lighting the flame, I was biting my knuckles.
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Old 05-12-2016, 13:51
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I actually thought, like L&M, the first 2/3rds of 'Fear Her' was alright! Not even remotely original like that story (part 'Paperhouse', part 'Sapphire & Steel, part 'Twilight Zone') though; and then like L&M it went completely to pieces! Poor Huw Edwards (and his poor disappearing mate! Was it Geoff?) and the whole picking up the torch stuff on was absolutely excruciating. By the time we got to the the Doctor whoo-hooing and lighting the flame, I was biting my knuckles.
I quite liked that bit. I was hoping they'd choose DT dressed á la Doctor to carry the actual Olympic torch, but sadly not.

Obviously the Olympic committee aren't DW fans.
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Old 05-12-2016, 14:23
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I quite liked that bit. I was hoping they'd choose DT dressed á la Doctor to carry the actual Olympic torch, but sadly not.

Obviously the Olympic committee aren't DW fans.
Matt carried it for a bit down Cardiff Bay as part of the UK 'torch tour'! (He wasn't in costume. Knowing Smithy he would've set fire to his bow tie or something....)
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Old 05-12-2016, 14:46
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It's so easy for a Moffat fanboy/girl to choose their worst RTD era episode as there are so few bad ones to choose from (L&M isn't one of them). Much harder for an RTD fanboy/girl to choose their worst Moffat era episode as there are so many bad ones to choose from!
Love and Monsters, Fear Her, Voyage of the Damned, the One with the Flying Bus, the End of Time, World War Three, Army of Ghosts, Lazarus Experiment and the farting Slitheen, burping waste bins and RTD's obsession with the companions' dreary families (except Wilf) show that the stories RTD did were just as bad at times as the .Widow and the Wardrobe, Sleep No More, the woman who Lived etc and Moffett's obsession with the endless impossible girl stuff. The only thing guaranteed to be good, in many varying degrees, in every single episode is that the Doctor is in it
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