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I think it brings out everyone's personal most-hated episode.
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Amazingly, it wasn't until the last couple of series that my list of hated episodes has grown and grown. Until then, it was a very, very small list!
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Absorbalof always took quite a bit of space up on my list
![]() Even the Gatiss episode during that time (which I dislike but not hate) haven't got me as much as those episodes. Then, now since Peter's been in the role, the list has grown quite considerably. It's easier to say what I've liked rather than disliked during his time....and that isn't much! ![]() (Oh, and I absolutely adored The Doctor, the Widow and the Wardrobe as an episode by the way. One of my favourites, ever! )
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The Daleks Masterplan, The Massacre, The Silurians, Inferno???
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4 brilliant stories IMO, but there we go. Different tastes. So why
and , man? Really like The Ark, The Gunfighters (great fun), The Savages and The War Machines too. Oh, and Heaven Sent is an absolute classic. Slipped that in after Mulett's post. ![]()
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I love how every time Love & Monsters is mentioned here, an enormously long thread results.
It must have something going for it! ![]() I think because it was the original 'bad' new who episode for so many, that opens up the floor to a general discussion of bad episodes in new who in general. It also creates a lot of discussion because some still hate it, some never hated it, and some have better feelings towards it now because their have been much worse episodes since. For me, at one time it was the worst, but there are so many in the Moffat era that are worse. In The Forest of the Night seems to be generally agreed as the worse these days. |
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I liked "the one with the leaf", apart from the comedy alien you couldn't understand, and the song. Who was playing the bass guitar? It was early days for Clara 3, and I was hopeful
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Until Peter took over, my list of hated episodes only consisted of Love & Monsters, Fear Her, Voyage of the Damned, The Snowmen and A Town Called Mercy.
Even the Gatiss episode during that time (which I dislike but not hate) haven't got me as much as those episodes. Then, now since Peter's been in the role, the list has grown quite considerably. It's easier to say what I've liked rather than disliked during his time....and that isn't much! ![]() (Oh, and I absolutely adored The Doctor, the Widow and the Wardrobe as an episode by the way. One of my favourites, ever! ) |
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I love how every time Love & Monsters is mentioned here, an enormously long thread results.
It must have something going for it! ![]() It sure had that going for it, as well as an enticing premise, it's just a shame what a joke the end product was. |
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It's so easy for a Moffat fanboy/girl to choose their worst RTD era episode as there are so few bad ones to choose from (L&M isn't one of them). Much harder for an RTD fanboy/girl to choose their worst Moffat era episode as there are so many bad ones to choose from!
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It's so easy for a Moffat fanboy/girl to choose their worst RTD era episode as there are so few bad ones to choose from (L&M isn't one of them). Much harder for an RTD fanboy/girl to choose their worst Moffat era episode as there are so many bad ones to choose from!
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Yep I swear to God Love and Monsters and The Slitheen are the go to for Moffat fans when trying to discredit the RTD Era.
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Yep I swear to God Love and Monsters and The Slitheen are the go to for Moffat fans when trying to discredit the RTD Era.
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It's so easy for a Moffat fanboy/girl to choose their worst RTD era episode as there are so few bad ones to choose from (L&M isn't one of them). Much harder for an RTD fanboy/girl to choose their worst Moffat era episode as there are so many bad ones to choose from!
![]() ![]() It could be argued that many Moffat era episodes missed the mark because, as a showrunner, he's willing to try new ideas, and they don't always work. To be fair, there were a fair few episodes in RTD's time that made me groan a bit. It's just that overall I think of his tenure as fast and fun, edge of seat sometimes, nicely sentimental at other times. And Moffat's contribution to those years was up there with the best. With Moff it's the other way round. There have been some brilliant episodes, but against a rather dull background. And the last two series have been overall very dreary. |
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So any criticism must be work of Moffat fans? What is with this division as well, it is the same show...
Fan B: Egg Moon! Fan A: Paving slab Ursula! Fan B: Eye Bogey Monster! Fan A: Birdcage Elf Doctor! Fan B: Fat Daleks! etc That's fandom for yer! Guess there are plenty of Fan C's who've enjoyed both eras, warts and all, mind. And going by some tinternet places, Fan D's who think it's *all* been sh!te from 'Rose' on and is an insult to C20 Who! |
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I am _not_ a Moffat fan (understatement of the year!) and I am not a fan of Love and Monsters. That said, it is still better than many, many Moffat stories (Rings of Akhatan, The Doctor, The Widow and the Wardrobe, Series 8, Series 9, etc.).
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To be honest I'd rather watch that stuff again than Love and Monsters which is one of the worst Doctor Who stories ever. That stuff you mentioned is great in comparison.
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Is it wrong that we completely skipped 'Fear Her' and went straight to 'Army of Ghosts'?
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Is it wrong that we completely skipped 'Fear Her' and went straight to 'Army of Ghosts'?
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Yes, very wrong. As a punishment you must watch Heaven Sent 10 times.
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I actually thought, like L&M, the first 2/3rds of 'Fear Her' was alright! Not even remotely original like that story (part 'Paperhouse', part 'Sapphire & Steel, part 'Twilight Zone') though; and then like L&M it went completely to pieces! Poor Huw Edwards (and his poor disappearing mate! Was it Geoff?) and the whole picking up the torch stuff on was absolutely excruciating. By the time we got to the the Doctor whoo-hooing and lighting the flame, I was biting my knuckles.
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I actually thought, like L&M, the first 2/3rds of 'Fear Her' was alright! Not even remotely original like that story (part 'Paperhouse', part 'Sapphire & Steel, part 'Twilight Zone') though; and then like L&M it went completely to pieces! Poor Huw Edwards (and his poor disappearing mate! Was it Geoff?) and the whole picking up the torch stuff on was absolutely excruciating. By the time we got to the the Doctor whoo-hooing and lighting the flame, I was biting my knuckles.
Obviously the Olympic committee aren't DW fans.
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I quite liked that bit. I was hoping they'd choose DT dressed á la Doctor to carry the actual Olympic torch, but sadly not.
Obviously the Olympic committee aren't DW fans. ![]() |
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It's so easy for a Moffat fanboy/girl to choose their worst RTD era episode as there are so few bad ones to choose from (L&M isn't one of them). Much harder for an RTD fanboy/girl to choose their worst Moffat era episode as there are so many bad ones to choose from!
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