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Old 24-11-2016, 19:52
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My favourite soap is now hard to watch. Just characters moving around agonising about endless boring story lines. Bins, yellow Phil , the Christmas panto, floppy Lee, allotment , moody Whitney and Kyle finally off to France. Who cares about any of it?
Please please please bring back the soap I love
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Old 24-11-2016, 19:54
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I think the show is goinga back to basics, which after DTC's hype and OTT storylines is a blessing
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Old 24-11-2016, 20:25
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Watched for 25 years and haven't seen an episode in at least a month. Doubt i'll be going back. Boring now.
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Old 24-11-2016, 20:31
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It's a chore to watch I used to always look forward to EE and rush around making sure I could watch it live now I mostly just catch it in the morning on Iplayer.
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Old 24-11-2016, 20:32
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It's very, very crap. Get's duller by the week.
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Old 24-11-2016, 20:34
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I am a huge EE fan but stopped watching when the Millers came in. I didnt come back until Archie's murder. Now I wish storylines were as good as then
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Old 24-11-2016, 20:38
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So I am the only one flying the EE flag still?
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Old 24-11-2016, 20:56
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I think the show is goinga back to basics, which after DTC's hype and OTT storylines is a blessing
there needs to be some balance though. its gone from one extreme to another!
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Old 24-11-2016, 21:01
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Rubbish. Literally
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Old 24-11-2016, 21:06
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I think the show is goinga back to basics, which after DTC's hype and OTT storylines is a blessing
Yes but going back to the 80's isn't going to work in this era. Viewers want and expect some drama and some sensationalism, even if its a little bit over the top.

All we are seeing here is the everyday lives of a handful of characters that many people don't care about. They have all had a personality transplant and are all as dull as dishwater. As someone else said, its gone from one extreme to another, literally overnight.

Where is the drama, where are the storylines? Its just going round and round in circles every episode its either money woe storylines, Phil's liver, Lee's depression interspersed with Shax and Bex and this awful xmas panto rubbish. If you didn't know any better you would think the show is operating on a shoestring budget and its been taken over by some 6th form school drama group. Even the camerawork is amateurish now!

This muppet needs to go quickly and take his archers style boring tedium with him. EE needs a new producer that is completely unconnected with the show and has fresh ideas. Its got to stop trying to harp back to its former glories and bring the show into the 21st century.
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Old 24-11-2016, 21:06
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Used to be good, now gone down the pan. Honestly wouldn't bat an eyelid if it got axed. I mentioned a month or so back how SOC is ruining Eastenders and how he also got Family affairs axed. Most posters on here laughed and mentioned to be patient for SOC to put his mark on the show , it has actually gone worse than I thought it would.
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Old 24-11-2016, 21:11
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there needs to be some balance though. its gone from one extreme to another!
Yes but going back to the 80's isn't going to work in this era. Viewers want and expect some drama and some sensationalism, even if its a little bit over the top.

All we are seeing here is the everyday lives of a handful of characters that many people don't care about. They have all had a personality transplant and are all as dull as dishwater. As someone else said, its gone from one extreme to another, literally overnight.

Where is the drama, where are the storylines? Its just going round and round in circles every episode its either money woe storylines, Phil's liver, Lee's depression interspersed with Shax and Bex and this awful xmas panto rubbish. If you didn't know any better you would think the show is operating on a shoestring budget and its been taken over by some 6th form school drama group. Even the camerawork is amateurish now!

This muppet needs to go quickly and take his archers style boring tedium with him. EE needs a new producer that is completely unconnected with the show and has fresh ideas. Its got to stop trying to harp back to its former glories and bring the show into the 21st century.
I agree with the fist poster in full. The second poster I agree with but I still think it's early days for the new EP. I think he needs more of a longer run for me to come to a conclusion, over him yet. However as I say I am a minority in being satisfied with the work the new EP has produced so far
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Old 24-11-2016, 22:03
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I'm rather worried about Jim.
I think they're regurgitating old scripts from Mrs Dale's Diary (before my time btw)
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Old 24-11-2016, 23:18
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All this crap about EPs and eras and producer's vision is a nonsense. It is the same show, there should be continuity in style, tone, performance and writing always. The average viewer doesn't know who is producing the show and doesn't care. Its a total cop out for a show that totally changed overnight a few months ago and is now utterly repetitive and grating.
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Old 24-11-2016, 23:33
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I love EE with all my heart, but I have to agree it's in a spot at the moment.

Storylining is unimaginative, ploddy and filler-based.

Continuity needs serious attention.

There is undoubtedly a character surplus and room for even more dead wood to be shaved.

The direction and camera work this week has been appalling and has looked amateurish in the extreme. This is BBCs flagship lets remember.

And then there's the writing. Repetitive scenes replaying the same beat. Next to no dramatic conflict or narrative pace. Aside from the odd authored ep by some of the senior writers, it's been very average for a while now.

I'm really hoping Christmas turns a corner and 2017 does the show justice.
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Old 24-11-2016, 23:37
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Used to be good, now gone down the pan. Honestly wouldn't bat an eyelid if it got axed. I mentioned a month or so back how SOC is ruining Eastenders and how he also got Family affairs axed. Most posters on here laughed and mentioned to be patient for SOC to put his mark on the show , it has actually gone worse than I thought it would.
Could you expand on the family affairs comment ?
I haven't heard about this yet and wasn't aware he was even a producer on that show!

Makes sense. He is doing a ****ing dreadful job on EE
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Old 24-11-2016, 23:41
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I've had more fun having dental work done than I did watching tonight's episode.
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Old 25-11-2016, 00:21
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Its just awful, dtc didn't turn out well in the end but he at least had some stories i invested in, usually at this time of year things would be building up and you would feel something back coming, its just awful and from what i hear from SOC he's living in the bloody 80's nd this is the root he wants to go, i hope its a short reign.
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Old 25-11-2016, 06:19
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This week both Emmerdale and Coronation Street have been better than EE.
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Old 25-11-2016, 07:00
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I thought it was me that has given up with it.
I really try and watch it out of some sort of loyalty as it was my absolute favourite soap.
But it is so hard road it is boring. The same storylines run on for weeks and they are dull.
The major thing is the personality transplant in characters and the way characters return and leave every few weeks.
Jack has come back in, is back with Ronnie (again yawn!) and now has little Richard and Aimee living with them and nowwants to go off again.
Abby sort of just hangs around the square doing nothing. As if Tanya would ever leave her especially when she had the whole pregnancy storyline.
Patrick has miraculously made a full recovery from his stroke.
The whole Phil liver storyline is depressing and if he is dying he needs Grant and Sam back in for his final days.
Ian and Jane (yawn!)
The Carters need to toughen up - we need to see the tough side of Mick with big storylines. The Vic is the centre of the soap.
Put Sharon in the Vic.

They need a big storyline with decent characters e.g when Christian and syed got together and his wedding with Ameera that was great. Or Archie Mitchell storyline.
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Old 25-11-2016, 07:03
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It all reminds me of when Brookside started to get bad. I hope it's not the beginning of the end for Eastenders.
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Old 25-11-2016, 07:16
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My favourite soap is now hard to watch. Just characters moving around agonising about endless boring story lines. Bins, yellow Phil , the Christmas panto, floppy Lee, allotment , moody Whitney and Kyle finally off to France. Who cares about any of it?
Please please please bring back the soap I love
Kyle - another pointless character. He had potential but again nothing! They could have put him in a relationship with someone and the difficulties transgenders faced - nope nothing.
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Old 25-11-2016, 07:23
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I thought it was me that has given up with it.
I really try and watch it out of some sort of loyalty as it was my absolute favourite soap.
But it is so hard road it is boring. The same storylines run on for weeks and they are dull.
The major thing is the personality transplant in characters and the way characters return and leave every few weeks.
Jack has come back in, is back with Ronnie (again yawn!) and now has little Richard and Aimee living with them and nowwants to go off again.
Abby sort of just hangs around the square doing nothing. As if Tanya would ever leave her especially when she had the whole pregnancy storyline.
Patrick has miraculously made a full recovery from his stroke.
The whole Phil liver storyline is depressing and if he is dying he needs Grant and Sam back in for his final days.
Ian and Jane (yawn!)
The Carters need to toughen up - we need to see the tough side of Mick with big storylines. The Vic is the centre of the soap.
Put Sharon in the Vic.

They need a big storyline with decent characters e.g when Christian and syed got together and his wedding with Ameera that was great. Or Archie Mitchell storyline.
Get Carmel shacked up with a nasty Michael Moon like character, get Liza Tarbuck in to pair up with Kush as a loud, no nonsense mother in law hating vamp to shake that family up. Where EE is falling us there's no really adversaries and violent family splintering. The characters are anodyne non entities like Vincent, Tina Donna, Kathy, etc and those well past their sell by date like the Carters, Philth, R&R, etc.

They need fresh blood and a few big hitting actors. Don't mind the low key storylines for the time being but there needs to be something worth watching. All the big brewing storylines from when DTC was there have seemingly been shelved and as with sour Babe there's dull themes to fill the vacuum.
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Old 25-11-2016, 07:27
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Kyle - another pointless character. He had potential but again nothing! They could have put him in a relationship with someone and the difficulties transgenders faced - nope nothing.
He became a passenger very quickly who was simply a token character. The producers didn't want anything pejorative to be said about him so gave him a ridiculous neutralised role and in the end, one wonders what value he added to the show. My verdict would be sweet FA.
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Old 25-11-2016, 07:42
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This week both Emmerdale and Coronation Street have been better than EE.
Agreed although Emmerdale has been the poorest of the 3 recently.
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