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Fuchsia Groan
25-11-2016
Originally Posted by Dervlathedog:
“I feel that a lot of the same people who supported Jay are supporting Danny and, just like last year, they'll win, but they don't really like Danny as much as they ❤️'d Jay, and it's hard to care as much a second year in any case. If the likely victors -- in my groundless theory -- are finding it flat and stale, the rest of us have no chance ”

Unless your spidey senses tell you that Ed is gonna win, in which case you can sit quietly on the sidelines, smirking knowingly.
mimi dlc
25-11-2016
Originally Posted by Wiskas2:
“We need a WozRobbed to liven things up.”

There's a distinct chance of Danny WozRobbed by Ed....
duckylucky
25-11-2016
Originally Posted by Dervlathedog:
“I feel that a lot of the same people who supported Jay are supporting Danny and, just like last year, they'll win, but they don't really like Danny as much as they ❤️'d Jay, and it's hard to care as much a second year in any case. If the likely victors -- in my groundless theory -- are finding it flat and stale, the rest of us have no chance ”

I must say I really enjoy Danny both his dancing and on ITT . Jay left me cold ! But just not into the whole fandom and lurve !!
But loving this year on the whole , no one I dislike enough to get het up about !'
Wiskas2
25-11-2016
Originally Posted by mimi dlc:
“There's a distinct chance of Danny WozRobbed by Ed....”

Noooo! I meant a Louizzzze WozRobbed, or Ore WozRobbed. Actually, Louizzzze v Ore in the dance off, that would do. Clifton v Clifton, sibling v sibling. They used to base whole Western films on a premise like that. We could go on for months.
duckylucky
25-11-2016
Delete !!!Wrong forum !!'
Pretzel
25-11-2016
Originally Posted by Dervlathedog:
“I feel that a lot of the same people who supported Jay are supporting Danny and, just like last year, they'll win, but they don't really like Danny as much as they ❤️'d Jay, and it's hard to care as much a second year in any case. If the likely victors -- in my groundless theory -- are finding it flat and stale, the rest of us have no chance ”

Trouble is, great dancer aside, Danny is no Jay.

I loved Jay. Whether it was saying something mildly controversial, being inappropriately close to his dance partner, being tantalizingly inconsistent from one week to the next, or just the incomprehensible (to me) pure lust that such an unassuming pleasant looking yet ordinary young guy inflamed in so many, Jay was gold to watch for me. A first class contestant. A real talking point for the forum

Same goes for Peter, Jamelia, Jeremy, and even the 'quieter' ones had their moments, there wasn't a dud amongst the cast.

Danny is handsome and dances very well and er...that's it.

Maybe this year, the best have gone to soon. To be fair, Tameka, Anastasia, Lesley (and possibly Rinder) have had great contestant potential, but we'll never know.
Dervlathedog
25-11-2016
Originally Posted by Pretzel:
“Trouble is, great dancer aside, Danny is no Jay.

I loved Jay. Whether it was saying something mildly controversial, being inappropriately close to his dance partner, being tantalizingly inconsistent from one week to the next, or just the incomprehensible (to me) pure lust that such an unassuming pleasant looking yet ordinary young guy inflamed in so many, Jay was gold to watch for me. A first class contestant. A real talking point for the forum

Same goes for Peter, Jamelia, Jeremy, and even the 'quieter' ones had their moments, there wasn't a dud amongst the cast.

Danny is handsome and dances very well and er...that's it.

Maybe this year, the best have gone to soon. To be fair, Tameka, Anastasia, Lesley (and possibly Rinder) have had great contestant potential, but we'll never know.”

The baby in a bag thing was purely original. I don't believe it's a saying in Notts. Never heard it! His brain threw it out because he didn't grasp the difference between chatting with like-minded mates and broadcasting on BBC2 at teatime. Then clusters of fond and besotted fans had to quickly adjust their perspective to find the way to understand the utterance as a sign of Jay's gentleness and loveliness... (The boy's mother included!)

I unequivocally loved him for that statement alone. His dancing left me cold but his brain was an independent joy

No one is nutty enough this year. Or their breakdowns have happened out of sight and offscreen. If Laura and Giovanni had just fish-wifed it out on ITT that could have made a difference. The multilingual harshness of it... Oti talks about arguments with Danny, but we never see them. Let's see Ore pecked by gulls at Blackpool. Gorka spitting teeth. Anastacia vs Brendan.

I agree about Tameka. Her Clauditorium cry-in made me cackle harder and with more natural joy than anything else this year.
VicsMum
25-11-2016
Wow!

I opened the thread and was fully expecting to read a shedload of abuse telling me that I was imagining things and all so I'm glad to see that it's not just me who thinks that. What I'm not glad to see is exactly that it's not just me who is finding the board boring (contradictory, I know).

A lot of interesting points have been made and Danny's been compared to Jay more than once. However, as Monkseal said, I wouldn't be sure for a second that Danny's victory is granted, I don't understand where this perception is coming from. Also, like many people said, Danny is nice, did some great dances and...that's it, basically. If it wasn't for Oti making him a bit more interesting he would be a thousand times more bland.

Too much interference from the production is ruining it for me a bit, tbh. I think it's impossible to go back to the time of no staging, theming or props but the pros really should have more creative freedom, at least they should be allowed to choose their own music. And someone, ANYONE, need to have a word with the music people, whether is one or more people they should all be sacked, music choices have been nothing short of atrocious this year.

The few "controversies" we had weren't even such: racism accusations fly every year, Will Young left quietly being "fine and dandy", Anastacia didn't kill Brendan or danced on her own when she was booted. All in all...meh.

What can it be done for the boards to spring to life?


Originally Posted by mimi dlc:
“THINGY FOR THE WIN!!”

That's made me laugh! Gowan, Thingy!
ESPIONdansant
25-11-2016
It hasn't set the world alight. This series. Pretty bland.

Maybe Len retiring will give the show a boost but it looks tired.

I do wish they would strip it back though. Props and theming. Too overblown for its own good. These are Z-list celebrities. Can we calm it down a tad?
Fudd
25-11-2016
Originally Posted by Wiskas2:
“We need a WozRobbed to liven things up.”

Do enough people care about the remainders for a WozRobbed to take off, though?
ESPIONdansant
25-11-2016
God, no. Not at all.
Monaogg
25-11-2016
Ed is actually dancing, rather than being flung around like a lumpy yellow duster, thanks to Katya's choreography. So people cannot wail and gnash their teeth over him still being in the competition the way they did with Widdecombe.

The remaining contestants are competent at the very least, so nothing really to grumble about in terms of ability.

There is a lack of romance, and for me (and perhaps others) a paucity of Wow dances from the more able celebrities.

One person in terms of ability is in front of the rest, but Oti is the big personality in that pairing. Louise for me is bland and never gets pulled up for looking at the floor so often. Ore is a bit hit & miss and appears to be favoured by some of the judges. Claudia is very diligent, working hard to get things right. Trouble is that diligence does not always translate into dance. Rob Rinder seems to have lost a bit of the fun he started off with. So things are a bit flat IMO.
collaw
25-11-2016
Originally Posted by Pretzel:
“Trouble is, great dancer aside, Danny is no Jay.



Danny dances very well .”

what else do you want , you forgot to add polite to everybody who helps make the show

that is what I watch the show for if I want romance there is books
MACTOWIN
25-11-2016
The X Factor and I am a Celeb Forums are also way down this year imo as was BB in the Summer and there are a lot of regulars missing.
Mrs Spratt
26-11-2016
I somehow got joined into a Facebook group which is purely there to support Ed, I've spent time on there that in previous years I might have spent on the DS Strictly forum.

I wonder if part of it is that, with Brenda and Anton being out comparatively early, almost all the pros are comparatively unknown characters, and some are a bit dull in terms of personality at the moment.
Pretzel
26-11-2016
Originally Posted by collaw:
“what else do you want , you forgot to add polite to everybody who helps make the show

that is what I watch the show for if I want romance there is books”

Um, quite a bit really, I'm demanding like that. Well I like the nice dancing, the glitter and all that... but yeah I'll admit to watching for the characters and, that laughs the drama. and then posting about it all on DS. If everybody is nice and everything goes well and the best person always gets through it's a bit well..... boring.

The romance? Nah not really TBH. Yeah I know I was a GG fan last year, and I knew and it was funny watching them describe themselves as 'brother and sister' I'll admit, but I genuinely liked the dancing, I didn't even know they were still together when they broke up. What kind of reality romance fan would that make me? lol In books I prefer thrillers and on TV I like my romance a little more hardcore* mixed with violence and again drama like on Game of Thrones (*I realise that sounds wrong).

The only 'real life' romance I like is my own.

Nothing intrinsically 'wrong' with Danny, I just don't think that they got the cast right this year and that has reflected on the forum and in some peoples interest in the show.
-Sid-
26-11-2016
I suppose it was inevitable a certain jadedness would set in - not so much with the show itself but with discussing it.

I remember back when Kelly & Brendan did an illegal third lift and it seemed like the whole country was up in arms - I half thought it might come up in the House of Commons. Now we just shrug at rule-breaking lifts and move on, they're forgotten about the next day.

I think the series outcomes have become quite formulaic as well. I predicted 4 of the last 5 winners fairly early on (Abbey being the only slight surprise) and it limits discussion somewhat when you already have a good idea what the ending will be.
Monkseal
26-11-2016
I remember saying before the series started that there seemed to be a lot of interesting characters but that they'd all end up getting eliminated early and we'd be left with the dull Hollyoaks Hunk and the mediocre pop star and the gymnast I'd barely heard of as the core of the cast. And that's more or less what's happened, except the interesting characters were a little *too* "interesting" and ended up flaming out a little too controversially. I actually think if Will hadn't had his personal issues he could have ended up being a real flashpoint contestant that could have had people fighting the toss all the way to the end, but it wasn't to be.

All this wouldn't be a problem if I could join the "counterculture" and root for Ed Balls to upend everything but I can't because I don't see nearly as much in his personality, relationship with Katya, dancing etc etc as his fans seem to, and everything around him has become so gimmicky and forced.
VicsMum
26-11-2016
Originally Posted by Pretzel:
“Um, quite a bit really, I'm demanding like that. Well I like the nice dancing, the glitter and all that... but yeah I'll admit to watching for the characters and, that laughs the drama. and then posting about it all on DS. If everybody is nice and everything goes well and the best person always gets through it's a bit well..... boring.

The romance? Nah not really TBH. Yeah I know I was a GG fan last year, and I knew and it was funny watching them describe themselves as 'brother and sister' I'll admit, but I genuinely liked the dancing, I didn't even know they were still together when they broke up. What kind of reality romance fan would that make me? lol In books I prefer thrillers and on TV I like my romance a little more hardcore* mixed with violence and again drama like on Game of Thrones (*I realise that sounds wrong).

The only 'real life' romance I like is my own.

Nothing intrinsically 'wrong' with Danny, I just don't think that they got the cast right this year and that has reflected on the forum and in some peoples interest in the show.”

I've just remembered that you are a Game of Thrones fan.
How's that Jason Momoa gif coming along? 😉
Domestos
26-11-2016
Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“I remember saying before the series started that there seemed to be a lot of interesting characters but that they'd all end up getting eliminated early and we'd be left with the dull Hollyoaks Hunk and the mediocre pop star and the gymnast I'd barely heard of as the core of the cast. And that's more or less what's happened, except the interesting characters were a little *too* "interesting" and ended up flaming out a little too controversially. I actually think if Will hadn't had his personal issues he could have ended up being a real flashpoint contestant that could have had people fighting the toss all the way to the end, but it wasn't to be.

All this wouldn't be a problem if I could join the "counterculture" and root for Ed Balls to upend everything but I can't because I don't see nearly as much in his personality, relationship with Katya, dancing etc etc as his fans seem to, and everything around him has become so gimmicky and forced.”

I couldn't agree more it has the feel of Team Cola to me and I disliked that whole forced aren't we cute and different thing.
fatskia
26-11-2016
Originally Posted by VicsMum:
“Wow!

I opened the thread and was fully expecting to read a shedload of abuse telling me that I was imagining things and all so I'm glad to see that it's not just me who thinks that. What I'm not glad to see is exactly that it's not just me who is finding the board boring (contradictory, I know).

A lot of interesting points have been made and Danny's been compared to Jay more than once. However, as Monkseal said, I wouldn't be sure for a second that Danny's victory is granted, I don't understand where this perception is coming from. Also, like many people said, Danny is nice, did some great dances and...that's it, basically. If it wasn't for Oti making him a bit more interesting he would be a thousand times more bland.

Too much interference from the production is ruining it for me a bit, tbh. I think it's impossible to go back to the time of no staging, theming or props but the pros really should have more creative freedom, at least they should be allowed to choose their own music. And someone, ANYONE, need to have a word with the music people, whether is one or more people they should all be sacked, music choices have been nothing short of atrocious this year.

The few "controversies" we had weren't even such: racism accusations fly every year, Will Young left quietly being "fine and dandy", Anastacia didn't kill Brendan or danced on her own when she was booted. All in all...meh.

What can it be done for the boards to spring to life?

That's made me laugh! Gowan, Thingy!”

If you run the Show, you want to keep your job. The bums on seats are numerous enough, so people must be hard to get rid of - just don't do something that might annoy them.
You have 1 person controlling all the music, themes, maybe even choreography, so you know what you're going to get there - problem is, so does everyone else.

So things are all set up.

Then somebody tears their scars open, everybody panics and you have an opportunity for something spectacular to happen, but fortunately that rule no-one ever heard of says the person TPTB want to stay, stays.

Next week, the celeb wearing the knee-brace gets eliminated - there's no pattern so far.

Next week Naga gets eliminated. Nobody notices. Some people argue (a little) about whether a pattern has emerged. Oh - and Ore does a Jive that is so sensational that it scores 2 points more than Jay's, and Ore has never danced before, and people can hardly breathe and if you thought Jay was overwhelmed at the reaction to his Jive, well, you aint seen.... No? - oh well... Will - Where's Will? Will who?

Then Brendan catches an illness and Anastacia catches a break. The oldest celeb/pro retires gracefully. There's no pattern any more. Laura has a busted ankle, but they sidestep the panic this time and declare her incapable of dancing, and hope against hope, that she'll be able to dance next week.

Then Brendan dies. They could have sent him to Wales and declared a Wake themed week (it's already set up for Halloween), instead, they give him the kiss off live on Saturday and he takes Anastacia with him on a hover board. Laura tops the leader board.

Then Laura hobbles off with Giovanni spinning beside her. Louise has a break dow... through! I mean breakthrough! The judges noticed! Kevin believed them!

Then Daisy does a Hippy themed Salsa to Disco music, and the taxi is waiting. Katya does a round the world lift round the biggest world she has ever been lifted round and makes it - missing the floor with her head by millimetres. Greg dances his best dance.

Then Greg is eliminated. It's Blackpool! It's a great success! 40! More extras than you could shake a stick of rock at! Gorka has to go to the dentist.

Everything continues on an even keel - nothing to see here - move along!
Pretzel
26-11-2016
Originally Posted by VicsMum:
“I've just remembered that you are a Game of Thrones fan.
How's that Jason Momoa gif coming along? 😉”

Jasons still mine,,,in my head;-), Hey maybe I am a little bit crazy romance fan after all . I haven't had the chance to use my fave 'dis gonna be good' gif as sadly all excitement at anything vaguely controversial being posted on the forum is quashed by the realization that it will almost immediately be deleted these days.

Originally Posted by fatskia:
“If you run the Show, you want to keep your job. The bums on seats are numerous enough, so people must be hard to get rid of - just don't do something that might annoy them.
You have 1 person controlling all the music, themes, maybe even choreography, so you know what you're going to get there - problem is, so does everyone else.

So things are all set up.

Then somebody tears their scars open, everybody panics and you have an opportunity for something spectacular to happen, but fortunately that rule no-one ever heard of says the person TPTB want to stay, stays.

Next week, the celeb wearing the knee-brace gets eliminated - there's no pattern so far.

Next week Naga gets eliminated. Nobody notices. Some people argue (a little) about whether a pattern has emerged. Oh - and Ore does a Jive that is so sensational that it scores 2 points more than Jay's, and Ore has never danced before, and people can hardly breathe and if you thought Jay was overwhelmed at the reaction to his Jive, well, you aint seen.... No? - oh well... There's no pattern any more. Will - Where's Will? Will who?

Then Brendan catches an illness and Anastacia catches a break. The oldest celeb/pro retires gracefully. Laura has a busted ankle, but they sidestep the panic this time and declare her incapable of dancing, and hope against hope, that she'll be able to dance next week.

Then Brendan dies. They could have sent him to Wales and declared a Wake themed week (it's already set up for Halloween), instead, they give him the kiss off live on Saturday and he takes Anastacia with him on a hover board. Laura tops the leader board.

Then Laura hobbles off with Giovanni spinning beside her. Louise has a break dow... through! I mean breakthrough! The judges noticed! Kevin believed them!

Then Daisy does a Hippy themed Salsa to Disco music, and the taxi is waiting. Katya does a round the world lift round the biggest world she has ever been lifted round and makes it - missing the floor with her head by millimetres. Greg dances his best dance.

Then Greg is eliminated. It's Blackpool! It's a great success! 40! More extras than you could shake a stick of rock at! Gorka has to go to the dentist.

Everything continues on an even keel - nothing to see here - move along!”

hey fatskia, when's this show on? It sounds great.

The way you write it has fabulous potential. I hope the cast is better than the current lot on Strictly though.
choucroute
26-11-2016
Having been here only for a year, I'm wondering what it was like here in the past and who those dearly missed posters are .... was it really so much better, or is just nostalgia? The line-up is definitely less entertaining this year, so I suppose that does affect what goes on here.

On the bright side, Monkseal's recaps have been even better.
MaggieMcGee
26-11-2016
Originally Posted by Monaogg:
“Ed is actually dancing, rather than being flung around like a lumpy yellow duster, thanks to Katya's choreography. So people cannot wail and gnash their teeth over him still being in the competition the way they did with Widdecombe.

The remaining contestants are competent at the very least, so nothing really to grumble about in terms of ability.

There is a lack of romance, and for me (and perhaps others) a paucity of Wow dances from the more able celebrities.

One person in terms of ability is in front of the rest, but Oti is the big personality in that pairing. Louise for me is bland and never gets pulled up for looking at the floor so often. Ore is a bit hit & miss and appears to be favoured by some of the judges. Claudia is very diligent, working hard to get things right. Trouble is that diligence does not always translate into dance. Rob Rinder seems to have lost a bit of the fun he started off with. So things are a bit flat IMO.”

I agree there's been a lack of wow dances. Only four so far got me going - Rinder's cha cha cha, Ed's cha cha cha and salsa and Ore's jive. Louise's AS and Danny's jive didn't quite hit the mark. Also on Team Doti, I think Oti being the personality of the pairing does detract from their pairing for me as I've been coming round to Danny the contestant.
Monaogg
26-11-2016
Originally Posted by MaggieMcGee:
“I agree there's been a lack of wow dances. Only four so far got me going - Rinder's cha cha cha, Ed's cha cha cha and salsa and Ore's jive. Louise's AS and Danny's jive didn't quite hit the mark. Also on Team Doti, I think Oti being the personality of the pairing does detract from their pairing for me as I've been coming round to Danny the contestant.”

Agree, he manages to be modest without putting himself down and is not in your face, seeming to hide at the back quite a lot. Gets my vote.
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