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Old 26-11-2016, 11:17
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... because no one would understand the smart ones


+ the producers like to keep the good-looking ones in for longer

and an outrageous cv ups your chances of getting on the show ... (think Ricky Martin)


https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbi...he-apprentice/
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Old 26-11-2016, 15:06
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Why does that not surprise me.

Also I get the feeling Selina may have been the blonde in question, she's the only one I can imagine the producers were keen to keep on, as she was the only blonde who was truly controversial.
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Old 26-11-2016, 15:36
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More and more folk are seeing through the bullshit lies
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Old 26-11-2016, 15:57
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Why does that not surprise me.

Also I get the feeling Selina may have been the blonde in question, she's the only one I can imagine the producers were keen to keep on, as she was the only blonde who was truly controversial.
It reads as though it was a candidate while Nick was still on the show which would rule Selina out...
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Old 26-11-2016, 16:03
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It reads as though it was a candidate while Nick was still on the show which would rule Selina out...
Oh wait yes that would be the fundamental error in what I said wouldn't it...

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Old 26-11-2016, 16:31
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The Sun might be sensationalising what Nick has said. Take away the spin and is there anything new or surprising? Note that Nick says Lord Sugar resisted the producers' request to favour "the blonde" (who I think is just used as a generic name here, rather than referring to an actual candidate).

I've not listened to the recording but the Sun's transcription is:

He recalled: “I say to him, ‘Oh, by the way Alan, the blonde: he or she is as thick as a fridge door, and I urge you with every fibre of your being, get rid of them, because they’re going to let you down”.

“And the producers will say, ‘Do you think you could find it in your heart to not get rid of the blonde just yet?’

“He will say ‘The blonde will go when the blonde deserves to go’.”


Note in particular the clauses "producers will say" and "He [Lord sugar] will say" -- that suggest Nick Hewer is generalising about a hypothetical case.

If I am right then the whole thing boils down to: it is hard work running after the teams; the producers cast for television; Lord Sugar holds the line and plays it straight.
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Old 27-11-2016, 02:52
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... because no one would understand the smart ones


+ the producers like to keep the good-looking ones in for longer

and an outrageous cv ups your chances of getting on the show ... (think Ricky Martin)


https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbi...he-apprentice/
Made worse by the fact that the new format excludes most people who are good enough to be taken on by a major corporate employer - and it was those people who often excelled on tasks in series 1-8. .

Worse still when you have more self made people, who opted out of education - self made people tend to come with more parts that don't fit, and the lack of education shows in many cases. With some very notable exceptions that dumbs down the tasks.

The old show's big business successes , and the smartest of those on Young Apprentice, are more often than not those who are now employed by major companies . And a growing number of the better candidates under the new format seem to have been able to do whatever they wanted to before Lord Sugar claimed it was impossible,. Who gtes to the end and wins is increasingly random, and doesn't matter ,
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Old 28-11-2016, 00:40
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Made worse by the fact that the new format excludes most people who are good enough to be taken on by a major corporate employer - and it was those people who often excelled on tasks in series 1-8. .
You should read up on where that lot are now. At least two of the women show up as "paper reviewers" on Sky.
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Old 28-11-2016, 06:31
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You should read up on where that lot are now. At least two of the women show up as "paper reviewers" on Sky.
The people with early CV's most like Sugar's, have often ended up in speaking about training and entrepreneurship,, and a few have made it as proper news pundits by doing some reading and thinking on their feet.
Michelle does a lot more though.
https://uk.linkedin.com/in/michelled...?trk=pub-pbmap

The high flyers flew on - have a look on linked in what Helen, Liz Locke, and Kate Walsh are doing .

https://uk.linkedin.com/in/helenmilligan

https://uk.linkedin.com/in/llocke?trk=pub-pbmap

https://uk.linkedin.com/in/kate-wals...?trk=pub-pbmap

And his better Young Apprentices have gone off to Russell Group Universities and jobs with top City Corporates.

Mr Education - James, for example, didn't bother with university and went to Satchi and Satchi
https://uk.linkedin.com/in/james-mccullagh-98182b44
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Old 28-11-2016, 12:03
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If you look closer, they are not exactly high-flying and bigging themselves up (Business Dev Director just means chief salesman). The Danish outfit (Kate Walsh) has 11000 of its 17600 workers in Thai jewelelry makers. That Michelle Dewberry trades on her Apprentice time to get media jobs - such is the fickle world of celebrity. I cannot watch that Sky "Pledge" nonsense as it is just parading ill-informed agendas.

In general, Nick was really just talking about the conflict between candidate quality and the "personalities" so beloved of celeb/reality telly. Sugar's solution is to go along with it as long as it doesn't really matter and then chuck them overboard at the last moment. Seems pretty sensible in our celeb TV world.
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Old 29-11-2016, 20:14
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The people with early CV's most like Sugar's, have often ended up in speaking about training and entrepreneurship,, and a few have made it as proper news pundits by doing some reading and thinking on their feet.
Michelle does a lot more though.
https://uk.linkedin.com/in/michelled...?trk=pub-pbmap

The high flyers flew on - have a look on linked in what Helen, Liz Locke, and Kate Walsh are doing .

https://uk.linkedin.com/in/helenmilligan

https://uk.linkedin.com/in/llocke?trk=pub-pbmap

https://uk.linkedin.com/in/kate-wals...?trk=pub-pbmap

And his better Young Apprentices have gone off to Russell Group Universities and jobs with top City Corporates.

Mr Education - James, for example, didn't bother with university and went to Satchi and Satchi
https://uk.linkedin.com/in/james-mccullagh-98182b44
interesting , didn't realise how academically successful some of the Young Apprentices have been

Zara - Oxford
Tim, Harry and Lucy - LSE
Arjun - UCL

however my fav Tim has ended up in a pretty mundane job while Lucy looks like a frenetic job hopper atm ...
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