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What does Claudia & AJ have to do to get 10's?
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amelia_lee
26-11-2016
Originally Posted by BMLisa:
“Just caught up on YouTube it was phenomenal. Vastly superior to Louise's effort.

Presumably AJs first AT as well? If he didn't dance it competitively”

Yes, he said on ITT that he has never danced it before.
amelia_lee
26-11-2016
Originally Posted by priscilla:
“They always undermark her, she deserved 10s. Everything was amazing, they are so stingy with their 10s when it comes to Claudia.”

Well, no, last week she was vastly OVERSCORED. So you cannot say she is always underscored. But this week she deserved at least one ten.
yellowlabbie
26-11-2016
Originally Posted by amelia_lee:
“Well, no, last week she was vastly OVERSCORED. So you cannot say she is always underscored. But this week she deserved at least one ten.”

So one week you say she was overscored, well hooray to that otherwise we would have missed that fantastic AT.
amelia_lee
26-11-2016
Originally Posted by Brian_Grahams:
“What perhaps irritates me the most is, for someone who is clearly an outstanding dancer and at such a late stage of the competition, when the judges give absolutely no reasons for deducting marks. Craig did give a reason, Len, Bruno and Darcey didn't however - and it must be annoying for the people involved to not actually know why they've dropped a mark!

But yes, I thought it was badly undermarked - I've no idea what they have to do to get 10s!”

Yes, because of their amazing comments from Len, Darcy and Bruno, I even felt they had tens, and I think you could tell by their faces that they felt they may have some. I mean Darcy said even the pros would struggle with some of it and gave no criticism.

I was really very surprised by their scores, and I'm not often.
abrightyz
26-11-2016
maybe claudia needs to dance the whole song up in the air in a lift lolz
amelia_lee
26-11-2016
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“So one week you say she was overscored, well hooray to that otherwise we would have missed that fantastic AT.”

Sorry I don't understand you.

I was responding to comments she is always under marked, but she isn't, last week she was VERY over marked, other weeks under and again over. Her scoring is actually very strange, as another poster said, it seems to have no connection to the dance they actually produce.

I don't see how her being over scored mean she is still in the competition though. It made no difference. She was in the dance off anyway, if she was scored less she would have been in the dance off too.
Artois
26-11-2016
I thought it was amazing. Was surprised by the marking.
Aurora13
26-11-2016
I've voted for Claudia every week and gave her 3 votes this week but I still don't think that was a 10 dance. I gave her a 9.

I scored Louise 9 and Ore 8.

Her dance last week wasn't a 9 in my view I gave it an 8.

So for me it is a case of over scored last week and scored right this week.


Louise was over scored with the 10's but a couple like Kevin and Louise who were likely to make it the latter stages should have danced the waltz early on. it's a first half of the series dance for me. I loved it but it was never going to wow like the other dances did. They attempted to put some extras in to uplift it a bit.
abrightyz
26-11-2016
i expected it to get at least one 10
little_lexie
26-11-2016
Originally Posted by abrightyz:
“maybe claudia needs to dance the whole song up in the air in a lift lolz”

But it wan't as if AJ was just lifting her off the ground and twirling her round. The longer the lift the more core control she needed to hold her position, in many respects more difficult than having a dace that is lighter on lifts.
tabithakitten
26-11-2016
To get tens, Claudia needs to be called Louise Redknapp or Ore Oduba.

What? No of course I don't believe in conspiracy theories .
abrightyz
26-11-2016
Originally Posted by little_lexie:
“But it wan't as if AJ was just lifting her off the ground and twirling her round. The longer the lift the more core control she needed to hold her position, in many respects more difficult than having a dace that is lighter on lifts.”


i was surprised at the amount of time she was in a lift lolz but i actually liked it... it's a 10 from me
Scorpio2
26-11-2016
Originally Posted by tabithakitten:
“To get tens, Claudia needs to be called Louise Redknapp or Ore Oduba.

What? No of course I don't believe in conspiracy theories .”

Or be partnered with Mr Clifton.
fat_bostard
26-11-2016
IMO, a ten from Bruno or Len would have been consistent with this year scoring. Each week they seems to over mark Ore and Louise (and Ed).

Last week Claudia got over marked but they over marked everybody, because Blackpool.

I really hate this year scoring. They give 9s to every good dancers and there's no ranking they all have similar score. And the 10s are meaningless, especially with Louise who is too often out of character during the dances.
An Thropologist
27-11-2016
My view on the correct mark for the dance done by AJ and Claudia depends on which hat I am wearing.

In my viewers that I found it a very entertaining routine. In my dance critics that I would say she danced the material she was given pretty well but not perfectly so a nine is fair IMO. As an AT dancer and teacher I couldn't give it above a 7 because of the lack of AT content, the amount of time she spent in the air (neither being her fault of course) and the lack of essential Argentine Tango style or technique on the rare occassions that her feet were on the floor.
Liza with a Zee
27-11-2016
Their AT was great. it was the first time AJ had danced it too. They should have had a couple of 10s.
thenetworkbabe
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by fat_bostard:
“IMO, a ten from Bruno or Len would have been consistent with this year scoring. Each week they seems to over mark Ore and Louise (and Ed).

Last week Claudia got over marked but they over marked everybody, because Blackpool.

I really hate this year scoring. They give 9s to every good dancers and there's no ranking they all have similar score. And the 10s are meaningless, especially with Louise who is too often out of character during the dances.”

Darcey's comment was only consistent with a ten . She was calling it exceptional - without finding a single word to describe why it wasn't. She also ticked off the boxes including acting, and the dance specific moves.

They can't argue its because she's short, or because she uses her gymnastic ability. She can't grow, they slobbered over Louis doing gymnastics tricks , and she's already doing better at acting, And if incoming experience was counted, they would then have to allow for Danny's training too.

Meanwhile 3 judges found fault with Ore ,and one with Louise, neither of whom can act well , So how you justify the tens there - when there's a problem indicated, and don't give a ten when three judges have nohing but heavy praise , escapes me.

It just looks like they are stuck with a set three for the final. There's Danny - though many of his year at arts ed would be as good or better. They seem to have something for Louise - who isn't notably better than Laura or Daisy at their best. And they may be terrified of the next claim of racism - if Ore gets thrown out before the final. Thats looking like a truly, ultra, dull, predictable, final.

And there's still that question of the importance , if any, of avoiding having a tour where the winner, or main competition, is absent, preparing for her national championships.
tabithakitten
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by thenetworkbabe:
“Darcey's comment was only consistent with a ten . She was calling it exceptional - without finding a single word to describe why it wasn't. She also ticked off the boxes including acting, and the dance specific moves.

They can't argue its because she's short, or because she uses her gymnastic ability. She can't grow, they slobbered over Louis doing gymnastics tricks , and she's already doing better at acting, And if incoming experience was counted, they would then have to allow for Danny's training too.

Meanwhile 3 judges found fault with Ore ,and one with Louise, neither of whom can act well , So how you justify the tens there - when there's a problem indicated, and don't give a ten when three judges have nohing but heavy praise , escapes me.

It just looks like they are stuck with a set three for the final. There's Danny - though many of his year at arts ed would be as good or better. They seem to have something for Louise - who isn't notably better than Laura or Daisy at their best. And they may be terrified of the next claim of racism - if Ore gets thrown out before the final. Thats looking like a truly, ultra, dull, predictable, final.

And there's still that question of the importance , if any, of avoiding having a tour where the winner, or main competition, is absent, preparing for her national championships.”

Hey - I think she's been dealt a rough deal tonight but that's bit OTT.
She's not that bloody good. She'd be worth a place in the final but the tour wouldn't particularly be that worse off without her. Relatively speaking, she's no better than Kellie last year and the tour suffered not one iota from not having her there.
snafu65
27-11-2016
Up until now I don't think they've deserved a 10 but last night I thought they'd get one or two at least. It was way better than last week's dance but scored the same, explain that judges!
VintageWhine
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by james_von05:
“first time to say this... I think the judges are stupid tonight... giving Ore a 10 and not Claudia...”

Quite agree. I thought that was an outstanding AT - definitely one of the best ever.

Ore (especially) and Louise appear to be the judges' favourites, for some reason.
hilary2329
27-11-2016
Sorry to buck the trend but it reminded me of Anton and Widders when she said that Anton had said that the only way to stop her doing the wrong steps was to keep her off the ground!
Far too many lift for my taste in the AT choreography.
little_lexie
27-11-2016
Half of her dances have now been 36- Charleston, AS, VW, Jive (overmarked) and now the AT

At least with the AS, VW the judges clearly said what they were marking her down for, but to rave about her AT and Charleston and offer no criticism then give it a 9...hmmm. I can see what people are saying about too many lifts in the AT (but the judges should have pointed it out if that was the case).

Her Charleston though....I couldn't spot a fault, one of the best ever on the show imo.

I think compared to some of the dances that have got 10 hers have been at least equally good. If Louise can get 3 10s for a Waltz with no heel leads...
james_von05
27-11-2016
Originally Posted by An Thropologist:
“My view on the correct mark for the dance done by AJ and Claudia depends on which hat I am wearing.

In my viewers that I found it a very entertaining routine. In my dance critics that I would say she danced the material she was given pretty well but not perfectly so a nine is fair IMO. As an AT dancer and teacher I couldn't give it above a 7 because of the lack of AT content, the amount of time she spent in the air (neither being her fault of course) and the lack of essential Argentine Tango style or technique on the rare occassions that her feet were on the floor.”

So how how you gonna explain the very bad posture of ore's paso with a 10 if they are focusing so much on technique?
holly berry
27-11-2016
Grow several inches of leg? The height difference and how its managed detract from her much improved dancing skills.
water_carrier
27-11-2016
Just finished watching Strictly on catch up. I thought Claudia and AJ's did the best dance of the night. Amazing to watch, thought she should have got 40. Also thought she should have finished second in the cha cha challenge.
I'm not a dancer by any stretch but she was exceptionally good and like the OP I wonder what she has to do to get top marks from the judges. It's very sad
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