When does 'agreement' become 'a clique' though - and does that depend on what side of the fence you inhabit ...

True. I'm tabling a motion to the UN as we speak

Thank you for your robustness, by the way

Then aggs, honestly, exempt yourself from my worries. They're my worries after all. If you don't feel or recognise them in your own feelings, then they're not you... I'd be frankly astonished if they were to be honest.

'The Judges' comment makes sense

I'm not in a clique with anyone but I agree there are cliques probably on both sides of the fence. Threads are littered with posters agreeing with each other. I don't see that as an issue or even strange unless they are specifically attacking one poster. But yes you are right that it could look different depending on which side you inhabit.

As I was saying to my friends Dervla Clifton, M Liza Clifton and Domestos Clifton, since when we we all members of a clique?

Ah, I said I wasn't going to post any more.

Signed A_D Clifton

I have not expressed my thoughts on the matter well because your post has gone somewhere else with what I was thinking.

My post of the day!

Actually as you know I genuinely am open to different points of views when I don't have a fixed opinion and you didn't need to invite me.

Again Dervla somewhat patronising.

I do have decided opinions on the Cliftons, all of them already stated on this thread and all of them stated without needing to apologise to posters for any offence caused.

It really does seem to me that you do love your lame ducks but you also need to realise that those who don't share that view are not wrong per se.

We often agree on various differing things not just on this one, I genuinely have no idea why, however the Pro Clifton faction has decided to take this quite as far as they have.

Whether or not you were just musing and should never have put that thought down on the internet your brain did go to there, to equating people not liking the Cliftons ( for me Kevin , no, Jo at times I like her, just not when she dances sometimes, Karen no real feelings about her personally, but hate the way she dances) to persecution of the Roma. That really isn't at all equivalent and really isn't at all respectful of those who don't hold the same opinion as you
Also to Trump supporters which you know very well we do agree about. We also both know how wrong Trump supporters are, no question

I am really absolutely fed up of this now , genuinely I would ask the Clifton supporters to step back and think what they are actually posting.

This supposed to be a board where we discuss SCD , where we discuss the programme and its participants, not each other, which I have done lately and will stop right in one moment.

Both of us dislike injustice, as I know Moanylisa does, but when the dislike of injustice leads to causing such ill feeling because ultimately there is no real injustice being done, just a group of people who choose to act as a family on a programme where no other family has done so, being disliked as a family.

It absolutely doesn't need the genuine ill feeling caused by over the top support on view in this thread.

No idea but I really like them!

any chance of reciprocating?

most of the 'support' i see has been offered as a response not a provocation.

and really, I find myself quite worried about you when i read your posts these days.

I need that memo too!

Quite surprised that this thread is still open tbh. It just keeps getting personal and more personal.

On the big things that matter, I know we agree. I know that.

Enough said!

You've missed the point. You do when it suits you. Work it out yourself. Nothing to do with me. Not my issue.

Best of luck with that.

I missed nothing. Your message came across loud and clear.

Yep, in the words of the great Solomon Burke, 'One of us is chained, none of us are free'

(Pretty sure this is the fiftieth time I've posted that song in various places on DS. What can I say? I stop listening to it, somehow I go right back to the beginning again)

ETA Suddenly nervous about disproportion again... I just love the guy and this song. The way he gets it

You're perfectly free to post what you want. Who's to judge what's disproportionate or not? Anyway, you wouldn't be you if the reader didn't need to pause occasionally with a very large question mark poised carefully above their head.

You made me check, and yes, there it is. I have a balloooooon!!

I shouldn't worry about it. It's when you proceed with the dogmatic certainty of a sleepwalker - much as Adolf H professed to do - that you're in trouble.

Jeez...that's mean, even for this board. 😔

Somebody open the bubbly!

Godwin's Law has been invoked.

I aim to please.

I wondered who the first one would be.

| don't particularly like the Clifton's, but I can perfectly understand that other people do not hold the same opinion as me. In fact, life would be pretty boring if we all held the same opinions. There are some people on this thread and this board who seem to get seriously disturbed if anyone's opinion differs from theirs. Personally, I always thought that the sign of an adult was that they could deal with differences of opinion.
So here's a little motto I donate to the forum "LIVE AND LET LIVE" !

Hatred of a group Wth Is it really THAT serious This is tv show for goodness sake !!!

Absolutely!


Hitler has been mentioned as well!

Proportion what proportion ?

And I too absolutely fail to see despite reporting it why this thread is allowed to go on.

Anyone else who wants to report it feel free !