Richmond Park by-election

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koantemplation

02-12-2016

Originally Posted by ClarkF1:
“Hurrah for Susan Kramer telling that idiot off for stereotyping the constituents. It's all like that here.”

Oh the irony, after the Lib Dem candidate practically called Leavers thick racists.

Welsh-lad

02-12-2016

Originally Posted by MARTYM8:
“They voted to stop Brexit and they won't stop it

They also voted against Heathrow expansion - I wouldn't be surprised now if Mrs May builds the third runway on Richmond park!

Even though it was a stupid decision by him an honourable constituency would have rewarded Goldsmiths faith in them by giving it back in return.”

Read: "Anyone who disagrees with me = dishonourable"

No-one owes him anything. People vote for the representatives who will best represent their views and wishes.

thenetworkbabe

02-12-2016

Originally Posted by MARTYM8:
“So Sleaford and North Hykeham to look forward to next week.

Will there be a surprise there too? Doubtful but May would be a lot more worried if she lost there methinks.”

Leave voting seat . Liberals would need a 25% swing. Everyone standing. A more typical seat - does labour's vote hold up, does UKIPs? Next door to a Labour marginal.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ll#c=E14000703 Sleaford

Dan 54

02-12-2016

But,but,I'm not sure it was clear that was what they were voting for,how do they know if it wasn't on the ballot paper? Maybe someone needs to challenge it in court?

apaul

02-12-2016

Your boss should have been down to the bookies.

koantemplation

02-12-2016

Originally Posted by Dan 54:
“But,but,I'm not sure it was clear that was what they were voting for,how do they know if it wasn't on the ballot paper? Maybe someone needs to challenge it in court?”

Yes were they voting to stop Heathrow Expansion, or to reverse the referendum result?

Welsh-lad

02-12-2016

Go on then. See how far you get.

aurichie

02-12-2016

I have to say this is a stonking victory for remain.

It sends a huge message to the hardline brexiteers that voters do not want what you think they want. But I think the message is already being heard, even David Davis yesterday has raised the chances the gov will pursue a single market deal with us paying into the club with free movement.

The game is nearly up for the brexiteers. We're going to win the long war after losing one battle.

koantemplation

02-12-2016

Originally Posted by aurichie:
“I have to say this is a stonking victory for remain.

It sends a huge message to the hardline brexiteers that voters do not want what you think they want. But I think the message is already being heard, even David Davis yesterday has raised the chances the gov will pursue a single market deal with us paying into the club with free movement.”

All it 'says' is that remainers don't accept the result of the referendum.

Dan 54

02-12-2016

Originally Posted by koantemplation:
“Yes were they voting to stop Heathrow Expansion, or to reverse the referendum result?”

They have no idea of the economic consequences to Richmond of this vote.

Cheetah666

02-12-2016

Its a common complaint with Brexiters that people keep accusing them of being stupid, but with posts like the above, is it any wonder the stupid charge is used?

FYI, Dan - nobody challenged the result of the referendum in court, they challenged the use of the Royal Prerogative to invoke Article 50. Do you understand the difference?

Dan 54

02-12-2016

Originally Posted by Welsh-lad:
“Go on then. See how far you get.”

Don't like it the other way round, do you?

koantemplation

02-12-2016

Originally Posted by Dan 54:
“They have no idea of the economic consequences to Richmond of this vote.”

Yes just think of all those jobs they will lose if they don't build the runway there.

We must over turn this result as the people didn't vote to harm Richmond.

aurichie

02-12-2016

Originally Posted by koantemplation:
“All it 'says' is that remainers don't accept the result of the referendum.”

It tells politicians what will happen to them if they support hard brexit. They will lose their jobs. Hard brexit just died a total death tonight.

Dan 54

02-12-2016

Originally Posted by Cheetah666:
“Its a common complaint with Brexiters that people keep accusing them of being stupid, but with posts like the above, is it any wonder the stupid charge is used?

FYI, Dan - nobody challenged the result of the referendum in court, they challenged the use of the Royal Prerogative to invoke Article 50. Do you understand the difference?”

I'd say you're too stupid to notice I'm taking the piss.

koantemplation

02-12-2016

Originally Posted by aurichie:
“It tells politicians what will happen to them if they support hard brexit. They will lose their jobs. Hard brexit just died a total death tonight.”

No it doesn't. It was a byelection where 2 parties didn't even stand. And it was a high Remain voting area.

Lets see what happens to a Remainer in a pro leave area.

Cheetah666

02-12-2016

Originally Posted by Dan 54:
“I'd say you're too stupid to notice I'm taking the piss.”

Oh, I know you're taking the piss. Your piss take is a total misfire because you apparently don't understand what you're trying to take the piss out of.

fornowagain

02-12-2016

All it says is a 70% Remain area voted for a Remain candidate. It actually says the voters of either persuasion will take advantage of by-elections to vote on Brexit. Leave voters will vote for Leave candidates in Leave areas.

SULLA

02-12-2016

Originally Posted by Cheetah666:
“If the Conservatives had fielded a candidate it would have split Goldsmith's vote and given her an even bigger majority.”

Let's not get too excited.

The Lib dems defeated an independent

SULLA

02-12-2016

Originally Posted by fornowagain:
“All it says is a 70% Remain area voted for a Remain candidate.”

and thought it would cancel out the referendum result

Dan 54

02-12-2016

Originally Posted by Cheetah666:
“Oh, I know you're taking the piss. Your piss take is a total misfire because you apparently don't understand what you're trying to take the piss out of.”

You must be the the life and soul at parties...

Resonance

02-12-2016

Originally Posted by koantemplation:
“No it doesn't. It was a byelection where 2 parties didn't even stand. And it was a high Remain voting area.

Lets see what happens to a Remainer in a pro leave area.”

.......and where a load of remainers still voted Goldsmith (he got 45% of the vote, in an area where 30% voted leave).

It was always going to be a tough one for him. I thought he'd probably still win. He backed himself into a corner when he made the commitment to stand down over the 3rd runway.

aurichie

02-12-2016

Originally Posted by SULLA:
“and thought it would cancel out the referendum result ”

This is just the start towards that ultimate prize, but believe me tonight's result is a stunning upset and will have the government very worried.

Aurora13

02-12-2016

Originally Posted by Saker:
“The Libs have wasted a lot of money on this seat. Once again they showed they are out of touch. Of course the residents of Richmond will care more about how many 787 dreamliners are flying directly above their heads - shaking the furniture inside their multi-million pound homes - than a far left Lib Dem candidate running on a Remain ticket.”

On the money again I see. Lol 😃😎

Out of touch. Who is? 😉

koantemplation

02-12-2016

Originally Posted by Resonance:
“.......and where a load of remainers still voted Goldsmith (he got 45% of the vote, in an area where 30% voted leave).

It was always going to be a tough one for him. I thought he'd probably still win. He backed himself into a corner when he made the commitment to stand down over the 3rd runway.”

Yes the trouble was that he already had the Anti Heathrow vote, but he lost the Leavers to the Lib Dems.

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