Wow, I think both Remain and the Lib Dems needed this.
The fast Lib Dem come back is astonishing, 12 months ago this would have been unthinkable.
The fast Lib Dem come back is astonishing, 12 months ago this would have been unthinkable.
Richmond Park by-election
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Originally Posted by Dan 54:
“Don't like it the other way round, do you?”
“Don't like it the other way round, do you?”
It's not comparable so your rather infantile comparison is about as feeble as the above post.
No-one challenged the ref result in court. Or did you not notice that?
Originally Posted by Dan 54:
“You must be the the life and soul at parties...”
“You must be the the life and soul at parties...”
If you make Brexit jokes at parties, god help your friends.
Originally Posted by aurichie:
“This is just the start towards that ultimate prize, but believe me tonight's result is a stunning upset and will have the government very worried.”
“This is just the start towards that ultimate prize, but believe me tonight's result is a stunning upset and will have the government very worried.”
I wouldn't get your hopes up,you've been wrong on absolutely everything so far.
Originally Posted by Aurora13:
“On the money again I see. Lol 😃😎
Out of touch. Who is? 😉”
“On the money again I see. Lol 😃😎
Out of touch. Who is? 😉”
TBF this is an even bigger upset than the referendum itself. It shows how appalled people are by the prospect of the so-called hard brexit that will decimate jobs and our economy and drive millions upon millions into absolute poverty.
I never believed tonight's result was possible in my wildest dreams. I didn't even bother commenting on it until now.
This. Is. Huge.
Originally Posted by Cheetah666:
“Oh, I know you're taking the piss. Your piss take is a total misfire because you apparently don't understand what you're trying to take the piss out of.”
“Oh, I know you're taking the piss. Your piss take is a total misfire because you apparently don't understand what you're trying to take the piss out of.”
Exactly
Originally Posted by aurichie:
“TBF this is an even bigger upset than the referendum itself. It shows how appalled people are by the prospect of the so-called hard brexit that will decimate jobs and our economy and drive millions upon millions into absolute poverty.
I never believed tonight's result was possible in my wildest dreams. I didn't even bother commenting on it until now.
This. Is. Huge.”
“TBF this is an even bigger upset than the referendum itself. It shows how appalled people are by the prospect of the so-called hard brexit that will decimate jobs and our economy and drive millions upon millions into absolute poverty.
I never believed tonight's result was possible in my wildest dreams. I didn't even bother commenting on it until now.
This. Is. Huge.”
You do make me laugh aurichie. A seat which is one of the most pro-remain in the country voted against a Brexiter and there are now 9 Lib Dem MPs as opposed to 8. It's hardly earth shattering.
Based on this i'd imagine that the Lib Dems would currently win a by-election in my home constituency of Harrogate and Knaresborough (LD until 2010, Tory since. Voted remain) if there was one, I bet this result has our Tory MP quaking in his boots for 2020.
Originally Posted by Welsh-lad:
“It's not comparable so your rather infantile comparison is about as feeble as the above post.
No-one challenged the ref result in court. Or did you not notice that?”
“It's not comparable so your rather infantile comparison is about as feeble as the above post.
No-one challenged the ref result in court. Or did you not notice that?”
I'd say being pedantic/dissecting a bit of pisstaking is rather feeble and shows how you can't take any humour when its turned around against what you and cheetah usually use.
Originally Posted by InMyArms:
“Based on this i'd imagine that the Lib Dems would currently win a by-election in my home constituency of Harrogate and Knaresborough (LD until 2010, Tory since. Voted remain) if there was one, I bet this result has our Tory MP quaking in his boots for 2020.”
“Based on this i'd imagine that the Lib Dems would currently win a by-election in my home constituency of Harrogate and Knaresborough (LD until 2010, Tory since. Voted remain) if there was one, I bet this result has our Tory MP quaking in his boots for 2020.”
Not comparable I don't think. It was only just remain in the referendum. 48,211 v 46,374.
Originally Posted by MARTYM8:
“Seat which voted 70 per cent remain votes for a pro remain candidate - but the pro leave candidate gets way more than 30 per cent on a very low turnout.”
“Seat which voted 70 per cent remain votes for a pro remain candidate - but the pro leave candidate gets way more than 30 per cent on a very low turnout.”
53% turnout in a byelection is not 'very low.' It isn't even low.
Stop trying to guild the turd that has just been handed to May.
Her majority just went down. How long before she starts begging the Ulster Unionists for support, like Major was reduced to.
Originally Posted by Resonance:
“Not comparable I don't think. It was only just remain in the referendum. 48,211 v 46,374.”
“Not comparable I don't think. It was only just remain in the referendum. 48,211 v 46,374.”
I live in neighbouring constituency and this area is not hard brexit territory. If Tories persist with it (looking less likely) then they will lose votes to a centre party.
Originally Posted by Aurora13:
“I live in neighbouring constituency and this area is not hard brexit territory. If Tories persist with it (looking less likely) then they will lose votes to a centre party.”
“I live in neighbouring constituency and this area is not hard brexit territory. If Tories persist with it (looking less likely) then they will lose votes to a centre party.”
Well if people did end up voting on the basis of how they voted in the referendum the Tories would win a landslide in any election.
Why do you think the Tories won't persist with it btw? It's politically impossible for them not to do so. It's for that reason that Labour have said they won't block A50.
Originally Posted by aurichie:
“This is just the start towards that ultimate prize, but believe me tonight's result is a stunning upset and will have the government very worried.”
“This is just the start towards that ultimate prize, but believe me tonight's result is a stunning upset and will have the government very worried.”
Is this a joke
Originally Posted by Radlestort:
“53% turnout in a byelection is not 'very low.' It isn't even low.
Stop trying to guild the turd that has just been handed to May.
Her majority just went down. How long before she starts begging the Ulster Unionists for support, like Major was reduced to.”
“53% turnout in a byelection is not 'very low.' It isn't even low.
Stop trying to guild the turd that has just been handed to May.
Her majority just went down. How long before she starts begging the Ulster Unionists for support, like Major was reduced to.”
Perhaps whe would like to be forced to have an election
Originally Posted by aurichie:
“TBF this is an even bigger upset than the referendum itself. It shows how appalled people are by the prospect of the so-called hard brexit that will decimate jobs and our economy and drive millions upon millions into absolute poverty.
I never believed tonight's result was possible in my wildest dreams. I didn't even bother commenting on it until now.
This. Is. Huge.”
“TBF this is an even bigger upset than the referendum itself. It shows how appalled people are by the prospect of the so-called hard brexit that will decimate jobs and our economy and drive millions upon millions into absolute poverty.
I never believed tonight's result was possible in my wildest dreams. I didn't even bother commenting on it until now.
This. Is. Huge.”
Well, quite a few people in Richmond are upset about it, certainly.
Originally Posted by SULLA:
“Perhaps whe would like to be forced to have an election”
“Perhaps whe would like to be forced to have an election
”
If the Tories lose the confidence of the house, we might see Prime Minister Corbyn blinking in confusion of the steps of Downing Street, with Deputy Prime Minister Angus Robertson at his Elbow, and Chancellor Tim Farron next door at Number 11 ...
Excellent result that couldn't have happened to a smugger git. So much for his hissy fit
Shame the Labour party couldn't have saved themselves the embarrassment and gone for not putting up a candidate but at least the Labour voters deserted en masse, Wolmar losing his deposit is is a nice final giggle, at least it will be when the Labour party spinners try to explain why the party is in anyway still relevant when Jerry's popularity has engorged Richmond CLP to 1600+ members but they could still only muster 1515 votes
First by-election in ages where the result has been played for laughs. Hope we get a few more before the big comedy festival in 2020
Shame the Labour party couldn't have saved themselves the embarrassment and gone for not putting up a candidate but at least the Labour voters deserted en masse, Wolmar losing his deposit is is a nice final giggle, at least it will be when the Labour party spinners try to explain why the party is in anyway still relevant when Jerry's popularity has engorged Richmond CLP to 1600+ members but they could still only muster 1515 votes
First by-election in ages where the result has been played for laughs. Hope we get a few more before the big comedy festival in 2020
I think this result may lead to a vote in Parliarment to get rid of the fixed term act (or whatever it's called) and a General Election sooner rather than later
Wasn't Richmond a Lib Dems stronghold until 2010 anyway ?
Wasn't Richmond a Lib Dems stronghold until 2010 anyway ?
Perfect just perfect. Unashamedly vote LibDems tactically in my constituency at GEs, so very easily see how this has come about, it's Europe, its Heathrow, its untasteful London Mayor Campaign, it's Conservative government.
Are we really going to get excited about 53% of people in one of the most prosperous areas of the country registering a protest vote against the government (who didn't even field a candidate) and dumping a charisma- free sitting MP who decided to turn himself into a one issue candidate at precisely the wrong time.
Who knew that a typical voter in this area would be anti-Brexit? People in Richmond live in an area largely untouched by problems caused by immigration ( squeezes on schools,housing and hospitals and are probably more likely to benefit from a so called thriving economy that is underpinned by low wages.
The government played this by election badly but the result changes nothing.
The government need to do the best they can to retain the benefits of the single market without compromising the country's right to decide its own affairs and control it's borders.
Who knew that a typical voter in this area would be anti-Brexit? People in Richmond live in an area largely untouched by problems caused by immigration ( squeezes on schools,housing and hospitals and are probably more likely to benefit from a so called thriving economy that is underpinned by low wages.
The government played this by election badly but the result changes nothing.
The government need to do the best they can to retain the benefits of the single market without compromising the country's right to decide its own affairs and control it's borders.
Originally Posted by Dan 54:
“I'd say being pedantic/dissecting a bit of pisstaking is rather feeble and shows how you can't take any humour when its turned around against what you and cheetah usually use.”
“I'd say being pedantic/dissecting a bit of pisstaking is rather feeble and shows how you can't take any humour when its turned around against what you and cheetah usually use.”
Ah... it was a 'joke'.
You should be on the stage..... sweeping it.
Originally Posted by Resonance:
“
You do make me laugh aurichie. A seat which is one of the most pro-remain in the country voted against a Brexiter and there are now 9 Lib Dem MPs as opposed to 8. It's hardly earth shattering.”
“
You do make me laugh aurichie. A seat which is one of the most pro-remain in the country voted against a Brexiter and there are now 9 Lib Dem MPs as opposed to 8. It's hardly earth shattering.”
He/she is very enthused!
I don't think it's earth shattering either but it is significant.
The way she said she'd vote down Article 50, without batting eyelid, will embolden the remain majority in both houses of parliament. Someone said it
Someone who just trounced a brexiter at the polls said it
And that is signinficant.
Originally Posted by James1953:
“I think this result may lead to a vote in Parliarment to get rid of the fixed term act (or whatever it's called) and a General Election sooner rather than later
Wasn't Richmond a Lib Dems stronghold until 2010 anyway ?”
“I think this result may lead to a vote in Parliarment to get rid of the fixed term act (or whatever it's called) and a General Election sooner rather than later
Wasn't Richmond a Lib Dems stronghold until 2010 anyway ?”
Yes, it had been theirs since it was created in '97. In 2010, Goldsmith took it from them 29461 to 25370.
Interestingly, Labour were down 8.6% last night, so a bad result for them.
Originally Posted by Welsh-lad:
“He/she is very enthused!
I don't think it's earth shattering either but it is significant.
The way she said she'd vote down Article 50, without batting eyelid, will embolden the remain majority in both houses of parliament. Someone said it
Someone who just trounced a brexiter at the polls said it
And that is signinficant.”
“He/she is very enthused!
I don't think it's earth shattering either but it is significant.
The way she said she'd vote down Article 50, without batting eyelid, will embolden the remain majority in both houses of parliament. Someone said it
Someone who just trounced a brexiter at the polls said it
And that is signinficant.”
I'm surprised Trevgo isn't here, wetting himself all over the forum
Originally Posted by Welsh-lad:
“He/she is very enthused!
I don't think it's earth shattering either but it is significant.
The way she said she'd vote down Article 50, without batting eyelid, will embolden the remain majority in both houses of parliament. Someone said it
Someone who just trounced a brexiter at the polls said it
And that is signinficant.”
“He/she is very enthused!
I don't think it's earth shattering either but it is significant.
The way she said she'd vote down Article 50, without batting eyelid, will embolden the remain majority in both houses of parliament. Someone said it
Someone who just trounced a brexiter at the polls said it
And that is signinficant.”
It won't make any difference imo. If the government lose their case A50 will be voted through by a big margin (similar to the vote for the referendum act).
I actually think her saying she'll vote down A50 without batting an eyelid will be bad for Lib Dems in the long run. Openly saying you want to ignore the result of a referendum doesn't play well with most voters, whichever side of the EU argument they're from. Most people support democracy.
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