A recent poll said 90% of people want to remain in the single market.

Presumably then, if there was to be a by-election in a heavy leave area and the Tories overturned a biggish majority, we'd be going for the hardest Brexit imaginable

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...ols-poll-finds

NatCen study finds 90% favour staying in single market and 70% want limits on EU immigration, posing headache for government

We can't have both, so..........

To put that quote into perspective for you, nethwen believes that Trump can do no wrong.

And she calls someone else rabid.

No, it says that the people of Richmond still don't want Brexit, or Heathrow expansion.

No-one in their right mind would vote for something they don't want, apart from those voting tactically in marginal seats

Just heard that there's going to be a protest against the result in Richmond, as the electorate didn't understand what they we're voting for, and that a 2000 majority is not a resounding mandate from the people of Richmond.

Watch it all via iPlayer. It's speeches like hers, in leafy London suburbs where their life is unaffected by anything like the things those up North experience, that cause the divisions because, whilst she is sticking up for those who voted for her, she is suggesting to the 17,400,000 Leave voters that those in the South East still don't "get it".

High Court Ruling will overrule the protest though!

She is standing up for the views of her constituents. It seems that many Brexiteers still don't get that 48% of the UK has a different view than they do.

That's cheered me up. I've always loved Harrogate, but would have had it down as Brexit territory.

This is the real interesting thing isn't it? Even when the powers that be refuse to collude, the electorate have managed to do so.

Brexit is still going to be exerting a very dividing influence come the next GE. If the remain voters all back LD candidates whilst the brexiters split their votes between hard and harder Tory and UKIP there's a very good chance of an LD recovery in the South and Labour being wiped out in the North.

I'd see a Tory/UKIP government coalition arising from that I'm afraid, but with a credible LD/SNP/Green opposition

I believe no such thing.


...I think a lot of people in this community had the same feeling this summer. Richmond Park is full of people like me who felt that something was going wrong. That the politics of anger and division were on the rise. That the liberal, tolerant values we took for granted were under threat. We were seeing the UKIP vision for Britain in the ascendancy – intolerant, backward-looking, divisive; just as we see it in America and across Europe.

Well today we have said no. We will defend the Britain we love. We will stand up for the open, tolerant, united Britain that we believe in. The people of Richmond Park and North Kingston have sent a shockwave through this Conservative Brexit Government. And our message is clear: we do not want a ‘hard Brexit’; we do not want to be pulled out of the Single Market; and we will not let intolerance, division and fear win.
http://www.libdemvoice.org/in-full-s...ove-52623.html

There you go. Intolerance for anyone with a different point of view, so typical of the illiberal and far left. And she's so tolerant and indvisive that she wants what she wants whilst ignoring the result of the referendum.

I stated that she is sticking up for her constituents. That isn't the problem. It's her accusations of racist, divisional language that she used that is the problem. Get people to see things your way - not label them because you don't like what their views are.

Not quite, but nearly.

Chuckle.

I'm a bit mystified by these predictions. Is there a ward-by-ward breakdown of the referendum results? Without that, it's difficult to extrapolate what the constituency vote would be as the boundaries are so different.

Brighton & Hove includes 3 constituencies, and I wouldn't be at all surprised if Hove voted to leave but the other 2 were strongly remain, producing a strong remain result. My own constituency includes a big chunk of the neighbouring district, and a significant part of the east of the district is in a neighbouring constituency. The referendum results were published for the district as a whole, which is quite a different animal from the constituency.

The referendum wasn't a parliamentary constituency concern. It was an either/or referendum. And Leave won with 52% of the vote. Remainers seem to want to ignore that fact.

But okay then. Let's see how Remainer MPs will vote for Article 50 when their 'constituents' voted overwhelmingly for Leave, shall we?

What exactly does the North experience that London doesn't? If you're suggesting immigrants, London of course has far more than anywhere else but doesn't see immigration as such a terrible thing.

Same on 5 live, took them ages, still the prosecco tasted fine in the bath this morning It was hot too and this little snowflake did not melt

Well they are estimates. Someone put some figures up on here a while ago. I'll see if I can find them.

ETA: Some analysis here

https://www.businessinsider.nl/nomur...onal=true&r=UK

Around 74% of the UK’s 650 MPs were in favour of remaining in the European Union.

But when the referendum vote is applied to traditional parliamentary constituencies, rather than the total percentages used to calculate the vote, only around 39% of constituency seats voted to Remain, according to data from the University of East Anglia and analysts at Nomura.

What did Farage say he would do when he thought his side was getting 48%?

The pro remain Guardian is touting the result as 'a vote that became a de facto plebiscite on the government’s Brexit plans'.
Except it's hardly news in an area which voted remain anyway.
Now if it had been Sunderland....

Richmoaners?

Seriously, I didn't do a prediction for this one but wasn't expecting Labour's vote to go down so much. It shows how fickle the pubic are that the Lib Dems can be forgiven by Labour voters within the space of 18 months.

So another polling failure?

So we're back to the idea that people who are passionate about what they believe in are only right if they're on the right.

Quite. An area that voted 70% remain, voted 49.7% for the "ignore the referendum candidate"