Originally Posted by MARTYM8:
“they don't live in a bubble.”
“they don't live in a bubble.”
No. They just live in ignorance.
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Originally Posted by koantemplation:
“I'm not assuming anything. It has been shown that immigration is NET so it is adding to growth. And in terms of natural growth it has also been shown that the birth rate is higher in the immigrant population than in non immigrant population.
If we had no immigrants for the past 30 years our population would have decreased not increased.”
“I'm not assuming anything. It has been shown that immigration is NET so it is adding to growth. And in terms of natural growth it has also been shown that the birth rate is higher in the immigrant population than in non immigrant population.
If we had no immigrants for the past 30 years our population would have decreased not increased.”
Well it is what it is : much of the UK's "ethnic" population has been in place for decades and are not recent arrivals.
The world's population is growing anyway, what with advances in healthcare and improvements in diet. One thing you'll rarely hear mentioned in the right wing press is that some of the pressures on housing, schools and the NHS are down to natural growth of the population (particularly the health service for obvious reasons.....hospitals tend to be full of ageing British people, not immigrants).
Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“Well it is what it is : much of the UK's "ethnic" population has been in place for decades and are not recent arrivals.
The world's population is growing anyway, what with advances in healthcare and improvements in diet. One thing you'll rarely hear mentioned in the right wing press is that some of the pressures on housing, schools and the NHS are down to natural growth of the population (particularly the health service for obvious reasons.....hospitals tend to be full of ageing British people, not immigrants).”
“Well it is what it is : much of the UK's "ethnic" population has been in place for decades and are not recent arrivals.
The world's population is growing anyway, what with advances in healthcare and improvements in diet. One thing you'll rarely hear mentioned in the right wing press is that some of the pressures on housing, schools and the NHS are down to natural growth of the population (particularly the health service for obvious reasons.....hospitals tend to be full of ageing British people, not immigrants).”
Try Peterborough, Boston, Newham and a whole lot of others.
Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“Well it is what it is : much of the UK's "ethnic" population has been in place for decades and are not recent arrivals.
The world's population is growing anyway, what with advances in healthcare and improvements in diet. One thing you'll rarely hear mentioned in the right wing press is that some of the pressures on housing, schools and the NHS are down to natural growth of the population (particularly the health service for obvious reasons.....hospitals tend to be full of ageing British people, not immigrants).”
“Well it is what it is : much of the UK's "ethnic" population has been in place for decades and are not recent arrivals.
The world's population is growing anyway, what with advances in healthcare and improvements in diet. One thing you'll rarely hear mentioned in the right wing press is that some of the pressures on housing, schools and the NHS are down to natural growth of the population (particularly the health service for obvious reasons.....hospitals tend to be full of ageing British people, not immigrants).”
So growth of world population is of no concern to you? You need to look at just how things are changing as we write. See world population
Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“Well it is what it is : much of the UK's "ethnic" population has been in place for decades and are not recent arrivals.
The world's population is growing anyway, what with advances in healthcare and improvements in diet. One thing you'll rarely hear mentioned in the right wing press is that some of the pressures on housing, schools and the NHS are down to natural growth of the population (particularly the health service for obvious reasons.....hospitals tend to be full of ageing British people, not immigrants).”
“Well it is what it is : much of the UK's "ethnic" population has been in place for decades and are not recent arrivals.
The world's population is growing anyway, what with advances in healthcare and improvements in diet. One thing you'll rarely hear mentioned in the right wing press is that some of the pressures on housing, schools and the NHS are down to natural growth of the population (particularly the health service for obvious reasons.....hospitals tend to be full of ageing British people, not immigrants).”
Yes because the British (including ethnic British people) have been here a lot longer than most immigrants which mainly arrived in the 50s)
There is no point allowing 300,000 extra people into the country each year just because the world is being over populated.
And as I said before which you have ignored. The birth rate of the non immigrant population is going DOWN not UP.
Originally Posted by HenryGarten:
“So growth of world population is of no concern to you? You need to look at just how things are changing as we write. See world population”
“So growth of world population is of no concern to you? You need to look at just how things are changing as we write. See world population”
And you think one country changing its immigration policy is going to have an impact on world population? Otherwise that site is irrelevant.
Originally Posted by Nick1966:
“No. They just live in ignorance.”
“No. They just live in ignorance.”
And there we have it!
They are just ignorant cos they don't agree with you. The arrogance is breathtaking.
Originally Posted by HenryGarten:
“So growth of world population is of no concern to you? You need to look at just how things are changing as we write. See world population”
“So growth of world population is of no concern to you? You need to look at just how things are changing as we write. See world population”
My point would be that stopping or controlling immigration won't have the slightest effect on the growing population of the world. The right wing British press keep saying "The UK is getting overcrowded, so we need to control immigration" but completely ignoring the fact that the population is growing anyway through natural factors. It's almost as if they want to completely dodge the subject of natural population growth and just to pin it on a scapegoat and if that scapegoat is dealt with, the problem will conveniently go away.
Originally Posted by sangreal:
“Blimey, just listened to it now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-DHqFikHoA
What a nasty ignoramus of a bully that woman”
“Blimey, just listened to it now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C-DHqFikHoA
What a nasty ignoramus of a bully that woman”
Is that really the standard of commercial radio in the U.K.?
It's hardly surprising that bullying and intolerance seem to be on the rise - all for the sake of the bottom line showing a profit.
It's scarcely putting the 'great' back in 'Great Britain'.
Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“I was surprised at how hardline the QT audience were on quitting the Single Market the other evening. Perhaps there is a working class / middle class divide going on here?”
“I was surprised at how hardline the QT audience were on quitting the Single Market the other evening. Perhaps there is a working class / middle class divide going on here?”
Maybe they just listened and were paying attention.
'A vote to leave means a vote to leave the single market' - David Cameron
Osborne, Gove and johnson said the same.
Originally Posted by MARTYM8:
“Maybe they just listened and were paying attention.
'A vote to leave means a vote to leave the single market' - David Cameron
Osborne, Gove and johnson said the same.”
“Maybe they just listened and were paying attention.
'A vote to leave means a vote to leave the single market' - David Cameron
Osborne, Gove and johnson said the same.”
Proof if proof is needed
http://order-order.com/2016/10/12/br...single-market/
But it just goes to show how bad the Remainers are at losing.
Originally Posted by MARTYM8:
“Maybe they just listened and were paying attention.
'A vote to leave means a vote to leave the single market' - David Cameron
Osborne, Gove and johnson said the same.”
“Maybe they just listened and were paying attention.
'A vote to leave means a vote to leave the single market' - David Cameron
Osborne, Gove and johnson said the same.”
Well the Italian foreign minister agrees with you. He asked 'Why vote to leave the EU but then say you want to remain in the Single Market?' last week on Newsnight and he does have a point.
Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“Well the Italian foreign minister agrees with you. He asked 'Why vote to leave the EU but then say you want to remain in the Single Market?' last week on Newsnight and he does have a point.”
“Well the Italian foreign minister agrees with you. He asked 'Why vote to leave the EU but then say you want to remain in the Single Market?' last week on Newsnight and he does have a point.”
He doesn't have a point, he has a strawman.
No one who voted leave said they wanted to stay in the single market if it meant keeping everything the EU represents in the first place.
Just heard the radio interview with JHB and the Lib Dems really are showing their contempt for the GBP.
I can only guess that people who vote for them have short memories, or a dislike of the other parties that means they don't care about the Lib Dems treating them crap too.
I can only guess that people who vote for them have short memories, or a dislike of the other parties that means they don't care about the Lib Dems treating them crap too.
Originally Posted by koantemplation:
“He doesn't have a point, he has a strawman.
No one who voted leave said they wanted to stay in the single market if it meant keeping everything the EU represents in the first place.”
“He doesn't have a point, he has a strawman.
No one who voted leave said they wanted to stay in the single market if it meant keeping everything the EU represents in the first place.”
He's talking about the 'soft Brexit' camp (if such a thing actually exists).
Originally Posted by Eurostar:
“Well the Italian foreign minister agrees with you. He asked 'Why vote to leave the EU but then say you want to remain in the Single Market?' last week on Newsnight and he does have a point.”
“Well the Italian foreign minister agrees with you. He asked 'Why vote to leave the EU but then say you want to remain in the Single Market?' last week on Newsnight and he does have a point.”
Frankly its hard Brexit or no Brexit.
Soft Brexit is effectively staying in the EU but having no say or vote in how its run. You might as well not bother.
Originally Posted by koantemplation:
“Proof if proof is needed
http://order-order.com/2016/10/12/br...single-market/
But it just goes to show how bad the Remainers are at losing.”
“Proof if proof is needed
http://order-order.com/2016/10/12/br...single-market/
But it just goes to show how bad the Remainers are at losing.”
They'll literally do anything to cling to their beloved eu.
Its no wonder its so easy to scam people nowadays,these are the sorts who fall for ponzi schemes,time shares etc,they cant strike out on their own,they have to belong to something,a club etc even though its ripping them off blind,its a sort of comfort to them against a nasty wasty world of change they're petrified of.
Just read their responses to brexit-
"I feel a sense of bereavement"
"Im horrified at the result"
They've basically been mollycoddled all their life surrounded by people who shape their views,brexit happens and they run round like headless chickens.
Originally Posted by MARTYM8:
“Frankly its hard Brexit or no Brexit.
Soft Brexit is effectively staying in the EU but having no say or vote in how its run. You might as well not bother.”
“Frankly its hard Brexit or no Brexit.
Soft Brexit is effectively staying in the EU but having no say or vote in how its run. You might as well not bother.”
Very good point.
It shouldn't need to be said, but sadly some people don't seem to understand that is why it has to be a hard Brexit.
Originally Posted by niceguy1966:
“And you think one country changing its immigration policy is going to have an impact on world population? Otherwise that site is irrelevant.”
“And you think one country changing its immigration policy is going to have an impact on world population? Otherwise that site is irrelevant.”
I am more concerned with the population of Britain. Just how big a population can Britain manage?
Originally Posted by MARTYM8:
“Frankly its hard Brexit or no Brexit.
Soft Brexit is effectively staying in the EU but having no say or vote in how its run. You might as well not bother.”
“Frankly its hard Brexit or no Brexit.
Soft Brexit is effectively staying in the EU but having no say or vote in how its run. You might as well not bother.”
Exactly.
Funny how those who cant stand Farage seem to be determined to drag him back out.
If theres any soft brexit nonsense,thats what will happen.
Originally Posted by HenryGarten:
“I am more concerned with the population of Britain. Just how big a population can Britain manage?”
“I am more concerned with the population of Britain. Just how big a population can Britain manage?”
Endless according to the the usual whiners on here...
Originally Posted by HenryGarten:
“I am more concerned with the population of Britain. Just how big a population can Britain manage?”
“I am more concerned with the population of Britain. Just how big a population can Britain manage?”
I agree, I don't see how us allowing the UK to become over crowded helps overcrowding in the world?
It is the same with pollution, just because the rest of the world might produce more pollution, doesn't mean we should if we can help it.
We should be leading by example.
Showing how a low population density makes things better.
Originally Posted by MARTYM8:
“Frankly its hard Brexit or no Brexit.
Soft Brexit is effectively staying in the EU but having no say or vote in how its run. You might as well not bother.”
“Frankly its hard Brexit or no Brexit.
Soft Brexit is effectively staying in the EU but having no say or vote in how its run. You might as well not bother.”
I thought Brexit was about how the UK is run, not how the EU is run. Taking back control of the UK should not mean losing the EU as a trading partner, should it?
Originally Posted by Dan's Dad:
“Is that really the standard of commercial radio in the U.K.?
It's hardly surprising that bullying and intolerance seem to be on the rise - all for the sake of the bottom line showing a profit.
It's scarcely putting the 'great' back in 'Great Britain'.”
“Is that really the standard of commercial radio in the U.K.?
It's hardly surprising that bullying and intolerance seem to be on the rise - all for the sake of the bottom line showing a profit.
It's scarcely putting the 'great' back in 'Great Britain'.”
She really is an incredibly nasty, smug and spiteful woman.
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“She really is an incredibly nasty, smug and spiteful woman.”
“She really is an incredibly nasty, smug and spiteful woman.”
I'd love her as Prime minister.
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