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Politics Home saying Lib Dems just might have made it and Tories gloomy. Why are they gloomy with no horse in the race eh?
But by-elections have the power to stop divisive Prime Ministers in their tracks. Our victory at Ribble Valley, for instance, killed the poll tax. And on Thursday a victory for Liberal Democrat Sarah Olney in Richmond Park and North Kingston has the potential to kill an even greater evil: Hard Brexit. Anyway, the BBC's predicting a result at about 3am. |
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If that is so, then take a look at the potential consequences:
But by-elections have the power to stop divisive Prime Ministers in their tracks. Our victory at Ribble Valley, for instance, killed the poll tax. And on Thursday a victory for Liberal Democrat Sarah Olney in Richmond Park and North Kingston has the potential to kill an even greater evil: Hard Brexit. Anyway, the BBC's predicting a result at about 3am. Not sure what that result would tell you about the country's attitude to hard Brexit in reality. No more than UKIP winning the Sleaford by election would suggest the UK wants hard Brexit. |
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They are very slow in Richmond - they always have very late declarations for an urban seat.
If the turnout is as low as some people are saying though surely they might finish early. Seems the winner may have been apathy - elections in December are not exactly going to deliver big turnouts. |
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Thousand either way in terms of majority is a shot across the bows of Theresa May and her cabal. Especially after Whitney result. Ploughing on claiming they don't need to speak with / consult other elected MP's will look threadbare.
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Goldsmith is very popular as an M.P.
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Great news for the LDs in local by election in Chichester
![]() Southbourne (Chichester) result: LDEM: 57.7% (+15.8) CON: 25.8% (-32.3) UKIP: 11.8% (+11.8) LAB: 4.7% (+4.7) |
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Goldsmith is very popular as an M.P.
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Great news for the LDs in local by election in Chichester
![]() Southbourne (Chichester) result: LDEM: 57.7% (+15.8) CON: 25.8% (-32.3) UKIP: 11.8% (+11.8) LAB: 4.7% (+4.7) |
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That's a swing of 24% from Con to LD, I think that's the highest Tory to Libdem swing in a local by-election this year.
EDIT: Although the LibDems are apparently running Zac Goldsmith very closely and could beat him! |
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How popular he actually is remains to be seen...
Still seems close - LDs doing best on the day but postal votes more pro Zac. |
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Dragging people out to vote in a rather pointless by election 3 weeks before Christmas may have been a step too far even for the posh folk of Richmond.
Still seems close - LDs doing best on the day but postal votes more pro Zac. |
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Do you think Zac will win? The result only affects the Tories in as much as they'll lose a bit of opposition support in votes as their majority has already dropped.
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Do you think Zac will win? The result only affects the Tories in as much as they'll lose a bit of opposition support in votes as their majority has already dropped.
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If he loses, it'll give their Commons majority a trim that they could do without.
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Zac Goldsmith does have a diva complex.
I think nearly every MP who flounces and calls a by-election like this does really. |
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They have already lost a bit of their majority regardless. He's standing as an independent.
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They have already lost a bit of their majority regardless. He's standing as an independent.
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Zac Goldsmith does have a diva complex.
I think nearly every MP who flounces and calls a by-election like this does really. |
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BBC London reporting the turnout is 53.6%, meaning 41,367votes
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Nobody believes he is an Independent the voters in Richmond or the Tory Party in Westminster. This election is a £250K vanity project. Having said that I would be very surprised if he doesn't win but with a low majority. It's the message being sent to Tories in two of their most safe seats in Whitney and Richmond that matters.
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A 54% turnout apparently! High for December according to Neil. I guess it is considering Labour won by-elections with 34% in the summer!
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What was the turnout in May 2015? Given the demographic I'd expect it to be high even though it was a very safe seat.
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I forgot all about this taking place today.
Is Andrew Neil covering this through the night? It was nice to see Peter Whittle just then. |
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Andrew Neil is such a brazen brexiter.
He didn't much like some of the pertinent points made by the LibDem just then, hence shutting her down and belittling her. |
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This LibDem woman is bonkers! She thinks that many people in Remain areas like Twickenham are under represented and that Tories should be in danger! She fails to mention that these areas are already represented by Remain supporting Tory MP's so what's the incentive of voting LibDem?
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