Well, compared to you they are.

The UK can't cope with the population we have now let alone any more. Especially those who want to come here just to take advantage of us.

And we should be helping people make their homelands better not helping them to make our country worse.

Whatever. It was a stupid analogy anyway

Which if you'd actually thought about my last post you'd know was a stupid question. People are not evenly distributed. Some places are overcrowded today, others are virtually deserted.

With investment in roads,housing, schools, hospitals, etc, we could easily have a population far higher than today, with better living standards for all. As people are living longer, our population will rise even if we had zero immigration. Or maybe you want to start killing off OAPs to keep within whatever arbitrary number you've decided is the maximum population we can have?

It really is a "how long is a piece of string" type question, and if you can't realise that there is no point discussing it with you.

Loads of space in East Anglia, the South West, Northumberland and other areas. The trouble is that people don't want to move there as there aren't many jobs.

Most analogies are but the intention was to show that it is broadly a binary choice. Compromise means effectively staying in.

Is there? Lots of empty houses, you mean? Or by "space" do you mean countryside which might as well be paved over as it isn't doing anything useful?

I certainly do not want out beautiful countryside to be paved over to house immigrants.

Nor do I want our already over crowded towns and cites built up even more so that population density is worse.

We have just had 3 lots of flats built here yet no extra money or infrastructure put in place for the extra population that will be housed in those flats.

No, neither do I, which is why I asked the poster I quoted for clarification.

Too many people, on here and elsewhere, seem to think that the countryside is expendable. In fact most of it is being cultivated, and even if it is not, it is a valuable resource for recreation, and wildlife habitat.

Loads of space in Wales and Scotland, but nobody wants to go there because it is so bloody miserable.

It would be more miserable if you moved there.

I totally agree. And what with all the flooding we've been having because of building on flood plains.

People won't learn till it is too late though.

Paving over the countryside will be like slowly boiling frogs. People won't see the harm being done till it is too late to do anything about it.

You will be rather disappointed - your leaders say they only want to "control" immigration - yet half of the current figure is non-EU under controls. Anyone, who fancies "sending them back" will be even more disappointed.

Worth noting that many EU go back (I've read half of the 2004 Poles), but that tends not to apply to non-EU.

Ho, hum, much like that £350 million.

Nearly 650,000 homes standing empty http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-34930602 but i suppose that is the fault of immigrants.

London's population is actually smaller than it was pre-WW2.

Which it are you referring to?

However London's population pre WW2 was crammed into many insanitary slums. The whole point of slum clearance was to bring housing stock up to a standard and the population was moved out to dozens of overspill towns like Andover and Basinsgstoke.
Funnily enough the empty homes seem to be not so much the fault of immigrants as rich foreigners, certainly in London. An empty house still belongs to someone just as anyone who has an empty bedroom is a waste of a utility that could be used to house people but infringes on property rights that many people protect with determination.

From the article you quoted.

My part of the world isn't in the least overcrowded. It has depopulated quite a bit.
The local authority will soon get powers to slap tax hikes on folk who have second homes here. I'd be very glad for those to be sold off to immigrants, though there's no guarantee that would happen of course.

Let them come . A bigger population might safeguard our rapidly dwindling public services, transport etc. The immigrants we do have here have already kept the local school open . The Poles down the road have children speaking Welsh

Either Scotland or Wales.

I can recall some of the Welsh burning immigrant homes fairly recently.

They must have been the wrong type of immigrants.

Can you? When?

I see, in your infantile attempt at a cheap shot you utterly failed to address the salient point i.e that the country is not overcrowded, many bits are too sparsely populated

In the late 1970s, the population of London was actually falling and there was a real fear that this meant the city was heading into the doldrums and serious decline.

People keep talking about the UK population growing as if it is a terrible phenomenon but if it was revealed that the population was falling, it would be much worse, as a country being depopulated nearly always is bad news and a very bad sign.

Might well have been. Given the choice between a British second home owner who contributes f** all to my community for 11 months of the year and an EU immigrant who wants to work in my community, support the local economy, raise a family here etc, I know which I'd prefer.

Nothing infantile about it at all well over 200 homes arson attacked and they were all held by individuals and families who were incomers. Started early 80s if I recall and carried on into the 2000s. I think some are still going on. Many of the attacks were specifically in sparsely populated areas.