Originally Posted by harrypalmer:
“Don't be daft.”
“Don't be daft.”
I could never take 'Dickie' Attenborough that seriously for him to be sinister. Same about him in Brighton Rock.
Rillington Place.
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I could never take 'Dickie' Attenborough that seriously for him to be sinister. Same about him in Brighton Rock.
Originally Posted by vauxhall1964:
“I could never take 'Dickie' Attenborough that seriously for him to be sinister. Same about him in Brighton Rock.”
“I could never take 'Dickie' Attenborough that seriously for him to be sinister. Same about him in Brighton Rock.”
I could and he was.
One of my favourite films of all time for all the wrong reasons.
My what happened to the Nations attention span?
Back in those times the pace of life was slower and whole evenings use to consist of nothing more than listening to light entertainment on the radio. This whole story is not one of imperial storm troopers, gangster shoot outs or saving the planet from the latest Hollywood invented disaster.
Sad that people can no longer actually watch something longer than 2 and a half minutes without feeling bored and having to tell someone about it on the internet.
A couple of years ago I re-watched the TV series Colditz and loved every slow claustrophobic moment of long dialogue. If shown now people would rip it apart as no one was shot every 30 seconds.
I really enjoyed tonight's BBC version and didn't think I would as I'm such a fan of the film version and came to this quite anti in the first place. I too was a youngster obsessed with serial killers and this case in particular. This version is made more interesting in the way they are showing it from different angles and gives it a fresh feeling.
Of interest and also very much a sign of those times is that marriage meant something different to what it does nowadays and that sticking by a monster like Christie was actually not that strange in those days but would be unacceptable now. Take a look and the reaction and treatment (rightly or wrongly as that's not the point I'm making) that Maxine Carr got when found to be protecting Ian Huntley.
Times have changed.
Looking forward to next week and of course the week after. So interesting to do it this way and have it all come together from Christie's viewpoint in the last episode.
Back in those times the pace of life was slower and whole evenings use to consist of nothing more than listening to light entertainment on the radio. This whole story is not one of imperial storm troopers, gangster shoot outs or saving the planet from the latest Hollywood invented disaster.
Sad that people can no longer actually watch something longer than 2 and a half minutes without feeling bored and having to tell someone about it on the internet.
A couple of years ago I re-watched the TV series Colditz and loved every slow claustrophobic moment of long dialogue. If shown now people would rip it apart as no one was shot every 30 seconds.
I really enjoyed tonight's BBC version and didn't think I would as I'm such a fan of the film version and came to this quite anti in the first place. I too was a youngster obsessed with serial killers and this case in particular. This version is made more interesting in the way they are showing it from different angles and gives it a fresh feeling.
Of interest and also very much a sign of those times is that marriage meant something different to what it does nowadays and that sticking by a monster like Christie was actually not that strange in those days but would be unacceptable now. Take a look and the reaction and treatment (rightly or wrongly as that's not the point I'm making) that Maxine Carr got when found to be protecting Ian Huntley.
Times have changed.
Looking forward to next week and of course the week after. So interesting to do it this way and have it all come together from Christie's viewpoint in the last episode.
Originally Posted by JVS:
“The strange thing is that both actors playing Christie spoke in hushed tones to mimic his damaged voice box as he was gassed in WW1 - but, for some reason, the director has decided that in this version Ethel should also speak in the same fashion.”
“The strange thing is that both actors playing Christie spoke in hushed tones to mimic his damaged voice box as he was gassed in WW1 - but, for some reason, the director has decided that in this version Ethel should also speak in the same fashion.”
I didnt know that. In that case I'll let them off for all the low tones and all the silent pauses.
Sometimes you can say more with silence in a drama than with everyone shooting their mouths off.
Could I request that all those moaning about it being slow don't watch it again? Please go and get your feast of crash bang wallop in the form of some American garbage.
I'm convinced a great many people no longer know how to watch good slow burn drama, which is sad indeed.
I'm convinced a great many people no longer know how to watch good slow burn drama, which is sad indeed.
Originally Posted by Shady_Pines1:
“Wouldn't Evans have had a Welsh accent? The trailers for next week sounds London to me.”
“Wouldn't Evans have had a Welsh accent? The trailers for next week sounds London to me.”
I may have got it wrong but it seems that 'Evens' had a strong Welsh accent in the opening prison/hanging scenes but as you have pointed out, seems to have become a cockney in next weeks trailer.
Originally Posted by Faust:
“Could I request that all those moaning about it being slow don't watch it again? Please go and get your feast of crash bang wallop in the form of some American garbage.
I'm convinced a great many people no longer know how to watch good slow burn drama, which is sad indeed.”
“Could I request that all those moaning about it being slow don't watch it again? Please go and get your feast of crash bang wallop in the form of some American garbage.
I'm convinced a great many people no longer know how to watch good slow burn drama, which is sad indeed.”
I moaned that it was slow then reflected that it wasn't, no need for such an aggressive post.
One other thing that surprised me when I saw the Attenborough film about the case was how rundown and decrepid the Rillington Place street was. Partly from knowing Notting Hill/Kensington a bit and partly because of the name "Rillington Place" I imagined some kind of grand 19th century villa, sort of like "Peyton Place" or something. Instead of that it was a grotty old hovel.
Also from memory I believe that Christie was in trouble with the law for stealing postal orders in his time at the post office.
Of course as in this version Christie had a way of re-telling reality with him as the victim.
Of course as in this version Christie had a way of re-telling reality with him as the victim.
Originally Posted by rickbe:
“One other thing that surprised me when I saw the Attenborough film about the case was how rundown and decrepid the Rillington Place street was. Partly from knowing Notting Hill/Kensington a bit and partly because of the name "Rillington Place" I imagined some kind of grand 19th century villa, sort of like "Peyton Place" or something. Instead of that it was a grotty old hovel.”
“One other thing that surprised me when I saw the Attenborough film about the case was how rundown and decrepid the Rillington Place street was. Partly from knowing Notting Hill/Kensington a bit and partly because of the name "Rillington Place" I imagined some kind of grand 19th century villa, sort of like "Peyton Place" or something. Instead of that it was a grotty old hovel.”
To me it was a grand villa, get rid of the grime and it was end of terrace with a nice big garden, very very grand. In its own way?
Originally Posted by Brian The Dog:
“My what happened to the Nations attention span?
Back in those times the pace of life was slower and whole evenings use to consist of nothing more than listening to light entertainment on the radio. This whole story is not one of imperial storm troopers, gangster shoot outs or saving the planet from the latest Hollywood invented disaster.
Sad that people can no longer actually watch something longer than 2 and a half minutes without feeling bored and having to tell someone about it on the internet.
A couple of years ago I re-watched the TV series Colditz and loved every slow claustrophobic moment of long dialogue. If shown now people would rip it apart as no one was shot every 30 seconds.
I really enjoyed tonight's BBC version and didn't think I would as I'm such a fan of the film version and came to this quite anti in the first place. I too was a youngster obsessed with serial killers and this case in particular. This version is made more interesting in the way they are showing it from different angles and gives it a fresh feeling.
Of interest and also very much a sign of those times is that marriage meant something different to what it does nowadays and that sticking by a monster like Christie was actually not that strange in those days but would be unacceptable now. Take a look and the reaction and treatment (rightly or wrongly as that's not the point I'm making) that Maxine Carr got when found to be protecting Ian Huntley.
Times have changed.
Looking forward to next week and of course the week after. So interesting to do it this way and have it all come together from Christie's viewpoint in the last episode.”
“My what happened to the Nations attention span?
Back in those times the pace of life was slower and whole evenings use to consist of nothing more than listening to light entertainment on the radio. This whole story is not one of imperial storm troopers, gangster shoot outs or saving the planet from the latest Hollywood invented disaster.
Sad that people can no longer actually watch something longer than 2 and a half minutes without feeling bored and having to tell someone about it on the internet.
A couple of years ago I re-watched the TV series Colditz and loved every slow claustrophobic moment of long dialogue. If shown now people would rip it apart as no one was shot every 30 seconds.
I really enjoyed tonight's BBC version and didn't think I would as I'm such a fan of the film version and came to this quite anti in the first place. I too was a youngster obsessed with serial killers and this case in particular. This version is made more interesting in the way they are showing it from different angles and gives it a fresh feeling.
Of interest and also very much a sign of those times is that marriage meant something different to what it does nowadays and that sticking by a monster like Christie was actually not that strange in those days but would be unacceptable now. Take a look and the reaction and treatment (rightly or wrongly as that's not the point I'm making) that Maxine Carr got when found to be protecting Ian Huntley.
Times have changed.
Looking forward to next week and of course the week after. So interesting to do it this way and have it all come together from Christie's viewpoint in the last episode.”
This frustrates me no end too
Originally Posted by Damon_Plembury:
“This frustrates me no end too”
“This frustrates me no end too”
Surely the answer is to just ignore it? We are all different, why should we all conform to your viewing preferences?
Originally Posted by Faust:
“Could I request that all those moaning about it being slow don't watch it again? Please go and get your feast of crash bang wallop in the form of some American garbage.
I'm convinced a great many people no longer know how to watch good slow burn drama, which is sad indeed.”
“Could I request that all those moaning about it being slow don't watch it again? Please go and get your feast of crash bang wallop in the form of some American garbage.
I'm convinced a great many people no longer know how to watch good slow burn drama, which is sad indeed.”
No need for this type of post at all
I've seen the Attenborough film a couple of times and think it's a very good piece of work conveying the grim banality of what Christie did and was initially dismissive of this production when I saw the trailer.
Having read the comments here I may give it a chance.
Having read the comments here I may give it a chance.
Originally Posted by Cobblers:
“To me it was a grand villa, get rid of the grime and it was end of terrace with a nice big garden, very very grand. In its own way?”
“To me it was a grand villa, get rid of the grime and it was end of terrace with a nice big garden, very very grand. In its own way?”
A lot of Notting Hill and North Ken was pretty grotty and that was also where Rachman operated in the 50s. It wasn't (and isn't) all grand whitewashed villas. The property values there nowadays though are astronomical. There is a fair bit of social housing too, though mostly more modern and better condition today.
edit: on the subject of which, BBC TV did a fascinating documentary called Portland Road about a street of that name in Notting Hill which runs between two different worlds - mega expensive whitewashed real estate at the one end and old council estates at the other end which really shows the social divide there.
Originally Posted by rhumble:
“No need for this type of post at all”
“No need for this type of post at all”
Indeed, perhaps the viewers that know how to view a programme should keep themselves to themselves.
This is a public forum, why oh why should we criticise others for their posts??
Odd.
Originally Posted by rickbe:
“A lot of Notting Hill and North Ken was pretty grotty and that was also where Rachman operated in the 50s. It wasn't (and isn't) all grand whitewashed villas. The property values there nowadays though are astronomical. There is a fair bit of social housing too, though mostly more modern and better condition today.”
“A lot of Notting Hill and North Ken was pretty grotty and that was also where Rachman operated in the 50s. It wasn't (and isn't) all grand whitewashed villas. The property values there nowadays though are astronomical. There is a fair bit of social housing too, though mostly more modern and better condition today.”
Oh tell me about it, I was born in Bow, bought up in the suburbs, spent my teenage years in Wandsworth in the 80s and now have family in Putney.
On next week the 30 second version of The World At War:
"Down this road, on a summer day in 1944, the soldiers came...
... anyway, the Germans won!"
"Down this road, on a summer day in 1944, the soldiers came...
... anyway, the Germans won!"
Originally Posted by Cobblers:
“Surely the answer is to just ignore it? We are all different, why should we all conform to your viewing preferences?”
“Surely the answer is to just ignore it? We are all different, why should we all conform to your viewing preferences?”
I totally agree - I like slow compelling drama. For example The Affair is practically shot in real time and I was totally engrossed in it. I just didn't like this adaption. To me it feels "acted". Another example - The Fall series 3 was some of the most convincing acting I've seen on a British drama but nothing much happened for the first 5 episodes. It was still compulsive viewing IMO
Originally Posted by Cobblers:
“Indeed, perhaps the viewers that know how to view a programme should keep themselves to themselves.
This is a public forum, why oh why should we criticise others for their posts??
Odd.”
“Indeed, perhaps the viewers that know how to view a programme should keep themselves to themselves.
This is a public forum, why oh why should we criticise others for their posts??
Odd.”
It would be the equivalent of telling people to sod off and read another forum if they don't like peoples opinions, i don't see why people can't ignore posts they don't like or at least have a discussion about it , a blatant rant about is is just rude imo
Originally Posted by Reality Sucks:
“I totally agree - I like slow compelling drama. For example The Affair is practically shot in real time and I was totally engrossed in it. I just didn't like this adaption. To me it feels acted.”
“I totally agree - I like slow compelling drama. For example The Affair is practically shot in real time and I was totally engrossed in it. I just didn't like this adaption. To me it feels acted.”
Originally Posted by rhumble:
“It would be the equivalent of telling people to sod off and read another forum if they don't like peoples opinions, i don't see why people can't ignore posts they don't like or at least have a discussion about it , a blatant rant about is is just rude imo”
“It would be the equivalent of telling people to sod off and read another forum if they don't like peoples opinions, i don't see why people can't ignore posts they don't like or at least have a discussion about it , a blatant rant about is is just rude imo”
It seems that our views are not shared by some!
Originally Posted by Brian The Dog:
“My what happened to the Nations attention span?
Back in those times the pace of life was slower and whole evenings use to consist of nothing more than listening to light entertainment on the radio. This whole story is not one of imperial storm troopers, gangster shoot outs or saving the planet from the latest Hollywood invented disaster.
Sad that people can no longer actually watch something longer than 2 and a half minutes without feeling bored and having to tell someone about it on the internet.
A couple of years ago I re-watched the TV series Colditz and loved every slow claustrophobic moment of long dialogue. If shown now people would rip it apart as no one was shot every 30 seconds.
I really enjoyed tonight's BBC version and didn't think I would as I'm such a fan of the film version and came to this quite anti in the first place. I too was a youngster obsessed with serial killers and this case in particular. This version is made more interesting in the way they are showing it from different angles and gives it a fresh feeling.
Of interest and also very much a sign of those times is that marriage meant something different to what it does nowadays and that sticking by a monster like Christie was actually not that strange in those days but would be unacceptable now. Take a look and the reaction and treatment (rightly or wrongly as that's not the point I'm making) that Maxine Carr got when found to be protecting Ian Huntley.
Times have changed.
Looking forward to next week and of course the week after. So interesting to do it this way and have it all come together from Christie's viewpoint in the last episode.”
“My what happened to the Nations attention span?
Back in those times the pace of life was slower and whole evenings use to consist of nothing more than listening to light entertainment on the radio. This whole story is not one of imperial storm troopers, gangster shoot outs or saving the planet from the latest Hollywood invented disaster.
Sad that people can no longer actually watch something longer than 2 and a half minutes without feeling bored and having to tell someone about it on the internet.
A couple of years ago I re-watched the TV series Colditz and loved every slow claustrophobic moment of long dialogue. If shown now people would rip it apart as no one was shot every 30 seconds.
I really enjoyed tonight's BBC version and didn't think I would as I'm such a fan of the film version and came to this quite anti in the first place. I too was a youngster obsessed with serial killers and this case in particular. This version is made more interesting in the way they are showing it from different angles and gives it a fresh feeling.
Of interest and also very much a sign of those times is that marriage meant something different to what it does nowadays and that sticking by a monster like Christie was actually not that strange in those days but would be unacceptable now. Take a look and the reaction and treatment (rightly or wrongly as that's not the point I'm making) that Maxine Carr got when found to be protecting Ian Huntley.
Times have changed.
Looking forward to next week and of course the week after. So interesting to do it this way and have it all come together from Christie's viewpoint in the last episode.”
I think you and I must have similar perspectives on this.
Originally Posted by Brian The Dog:
“On next week the 30 second version of The World At War:
"Down this road, on a sumer day in 1944, the soldiers came...
... anyway, the Germans won!"”
“On next week the 30 second version of The World At War:
"Down this road, on a sumer day in 1944, the soldiers came...
... anyway, the Germans won!"”
Originally Posted by Cobblers:
“It seems that our views are not shared by some!”
“It seems that our views are not shared by some!”
Quoting myself as I totally did what I hadnt wanted to, I mentioned that my views weren't expressed by others.
That was wrong, we all have our own views, we should all be free to express them without being 'shouted down' for having them.
I came onto this thread to discuss the programme, so what if I found it slow, I'm looking forward to next week and have joined in the discussion.
Back to this evenings programme, I absolutely loved Tim Roth, soooo creepy. I haven't watched the film but he is playing a blinder in my opinion.
Can't wait for next week but before that of course I have The Missing tomorrow!!!
Can't wait for next week but before that of course I have The Missing tomorrow!!!
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