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Did anybody spot there was a LIFT in Louise & Kevin's Waltz and it still got 10's |
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I'm not a Danny voter and I think Louise is lovely plus is a good dancer. There does, seem to be preferential treatment given to Kevin, though. I think that pushing him forward as a big star, of SCD even though he's obviously a good dancer , does no one including him, any favours. It works better when the public decides who they like a lot, rather than producers deciding.
Yes, I know he won a Radio Times poll.
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Polls in the Radio Times can be really weird - Emma Bunton won one a year or two ago for best Strictly celebrity of all time
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Perhaps it's this forum that's a bit weird?
![]() I'm sure it is. I know there are plenty of people out there who like Kevin so that's fair enough, but I've never seen anyone else, anywhere suggest that Emma Bunton was the best contestant ever, so I just found it bizarre. Each to their own though.
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I have watched the dance 4 times in a row and I can't see any lift. Could the OP or someone please post the clip they refer to please? It was said the alledged lift is at 3 minutes but the clips I have found don't last beyond 2.5 minutes, so its hard to deduce what you mean. At the end, the series of 10 spot turns (exquisitly executed BTW) ended with a dip. Is that what you are getting at?
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I have watched the dance 4 times in a row and I can't see any lift. Could the OP or someone please post the clip they refer to please? It was said the alledged lift is at 3 minutes but the clips I have found don't last beyond 2.5 minutes, so its hard to deduce what you mean. At the end, the series of 10 spot turns (exquisitly executed BTW) ended with a dip. Is that what you are getting at?
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I have watched the dance 4 times in a row and I can't see any lift. Could the OP or someone please post the clip they refer to please? It was said the alledged lift is at 3 minutes but the clips I have found don't last beyond 2.5 minutes, so its hard to deduce what you mean. At the end, the series of 10 spot turns (exquisitly executed BTW) ended with a dip. Is that what you are getting at?
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Monkseal has a screen cap of it on his blog
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if you watch the clip on the BBC Strictly site it is around 1.04 ish dont blink you will miss it - it is just before where they stop arms out stretched
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Thanks I see it now. Was it a lift or was it a jump who knows? (or indeed cares given it was a spit second in an otherwise beautifully danced routine)
- who are supposed to mark on the technicalities. It's the home voters who are supposed to vote on them feelings 'n' stuff.Basically, if it matters in week 2 it matters in week 10. If you are going to give notice it matters - then don't be surprised if people get chippy when it suddenly doesn't without any warning. |
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Well, to be fair, the Judges should (as they have in the past, when the whimsy takes them, sometimes even for a toe off the floor in a twirl). They are the ones - especially Len
- who are supposed to mark on the technicalities. It's the home voters who are supposed to vote on them feelings 'n' stuff.The test for me is could the lady do that step alone. In Lousie's case yes of course she could. In the case of the twirl ( if I am right in what I think you mean) it would be impossible for the lady to do that alone. |
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Well, to be fair, the Judges should (as they have in the past, when the whimsy takes them, sometimes even for a toe off the floor in a twirl). They are the ones - especially Len
- who are supposed to mark on the technicalities. It's the home voters who are supposed to vote on them feelings 'n' stuff.Basically, if it matters in week 2 it matters in week 10. If you are going to give notice it matters - then don't be surprised if people get chippy when it suddenly doesn't without any warning. |
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Well, to be fair, the Judges should (as they have in the past, when the whimsy takes them, sometimes even for a toe off the floor in a twirl). They are the ones - especially Len
- who are supposed to mark on the technicalities. It's the home voters who are supposed to vote on them feelings 'n' stuff.Basically, if it matters in week 2 it matters in week 10. If you are going to give notice it matters - then don't be surprised if people get chippy when it suddenly doesn't without any warning. |
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If someone sticking their thumb up loses them points, then so should a lift or an assisted jump or whatever it was!
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If someone sticking their thumb up loses them points, then so should a lift or an assisted jump or whatever it was!
![]() Good points about the Judges not being consistent by other FMs Len needs to go to Specsavers |
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the rules for the waltz are that at least one foot must be on the floor.
. Former USA Dance president and professional dancer Peter Povor said a lift is defined as "any movement during which the dancer has both feet off the ground at the same time." |
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I have watched the dance 4 times in a row and I can't see any lift. Could the OP or someone please post the clip they refer to please? It was said the alledged lift is at 3 minutes but the clips I have found don't last beyond 2.5 minutes, so its hard to deduce what you mean. At the end, the series of 10 spot turns (exquisitly executed BTW) ended with a dip. Is that what you are getting at?
here you go from youtube both of Louise's feet leave the floor at 2.59 into the clip |
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Did Claudia get 10s for Jive?? No.
Most overmarked dance of the series for me!! I've been no fan of Louise throughout the series but if Claudia's Jive deserved four 9s then Louise's Waltz deserved 10s, illegal lift or not!! |
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Former USA Dance president and professional dancer Peter Povor said a lift is defined as "any movement during which the dancer has both feet off the ground at the same time."
When I first looked closely at the clip I thought that there was nothing to it but actually Kevin had to lift Louise to get that semi circle turn. If she'd stepped round it wouldn't have worked so it must have been deliberate choreography. |
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I'm sure that's out of context as otherwise a handstand would be a lift as well. Having one foot on the ground at all times is the definition of competitive walking.
When I first looked closely at the clip I thought that there was nothing to it but actually Kevin had to lift Louise to get that semi circle turn. If she'd stepped round it wouldn't have worked so it must have been deliberate choreography. it is not out of context it is referring to the rules of dancing the Waltz. |
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She shouldn't even have had 9s!! It was littered with mistakes!!
Most overmarked dance of the series for me!! I've been no fan of Louise throughout the series but if Claudia's Jive deserved four 9s then Louise's Waltz deserved 10s, illegal lift or not!! |
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bvv5Oj8zL30
here you go from youtube both of Louise's feet leave the floor at 2.59 into the clip |
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Damn those Clifton bias judges!!!!
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I thought the lift was quite obvious and was surprised the judges didn't say anything about it, especially Len. I can't say rule breaks like that bother me much. I don't consider Strictly a "proper" ballroom/Latin competition but more an entertainment show based on one. The marking should be consistent though - if they deduct a point from one couple for a rule break it should be across the board. For example, Daisy was penalised for an illegal lift in her cha-cha if I remember correctly. So if they are going to set a precedent like that early on they should follow it through each week imo.
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I'm sure it is. I know there are plenty of people out there who like Kevin so that's fair enough, but I've never seen anyone else, anywhere suggest that Emma Bunton was the best contestant ever, so I just found it bizarre. Each to their own though.
