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Saara is now the longest surviving openly LGBT+ contestant ever
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Robbie_William1
29-11-2016
Originally Posted by InMyArms:
“In all honestly i'm surprised that someone from elsewhere in Europe has made the top 4 in post-Brexit Britain.”

Maybe it's anti-Brexit now. Everybody who voted for EU will vote for Saara now.
Robbie_William1
29-11-2016
Originally Posted by Kingsy:
“This is literally the first I've heard of it so not sure about your use of "openly"...”

Saara has been open about it in every newspaper and magazine interview.
StratusSphere
29-11-2016
Yet still no girlfriend appearing on the show and Saara has been on in VTs saying she hasnt seen any of her family or friends in months, yet there she is hanging out with her girlfriend after the shows...the show isn't that accepting.

We've seen camp contestants but I don't believe we've ever seen a LGBT contestant's partner on the main show. Maybe Xtra Factor I don't watch that and neither do most of the audience.
Virtuoso
29-11-2016
Originally Posted by mialicious:
“maybe next year someone in the semi's will happen to be ginger..and you can start a thread congratulating them as well.”

You must be a right giggle at dinner parties. Jesus, what a character.
Virtuoso
29-11-2016
Originally Posted by Robbie_William1:
“Saara has been open about it in every newspaper and magazine interview.”

Yeah, I don't think it's a good or bad thing to be open about it but it is brave as a woman because women aren't very well accepted when they're LGBT. I've got a sister who identifies as lesbian and I know what she's been through with it.
xTonix
29-11-2016
Is Saara the first lesbian act on X Factor?
mialicious
29-11-2016
Originally Posted by Virtuoso:
“You must be a right giggle at dinner parties. Jesus, what a character.”

stop flirting with me.. i agree with you about jesus.
Hermanazo
29-11-2016
Originally Posted by xTonix:
“Is Saara the first lesbian act on X Factor?”

Wasn't it Rhydian?
blueface2222
29-11-2016
Forget that...

She's the longest surviving bottom 2 contestant too...

Bottom 2 first week and she's now almost certain to come 2nd and make the final.

Duets
Robbie Williams please for Saara Angels
Ellie Goulding for Emily Love Me Like You Do
Sam Smith for Matt Writings On The Wall

big bang theory
29-11-2016
Originally Posted by GibsonSG:
“When did Rylan get the boot. I thought he got this far.”

He finished 5th I think.
Faria262
29-11-2016
Originally Posted by xTonix:
“Is Saara the first lesbian act on X Factor?”

No, there were both Lucy Spraggan and Jade Ellis in 2012 (not in a relationship with each other.)

xxxx
Brummy Girl
30-11-2016
Originally Posted by Faria262:
“No, there were both Lucy Spraggan and Jade Ellis in 2012 (not in a relationship with each other.)

xxxx”

For me Lucy Spraggan was much more 'open' on her series than Saara has been. I don't ever recall Saara mentioning her sexuality on the show or the show itself acknowledging it. Whereas Lucy performed a rendition of Kanye West's Gold Digger surrounded by and flirting openly with females.
Rachel_Harrison
30-11-2016
IMO, public acceptance of a lesbian is a lot easier sell than public acceptance of an out gay male.

Further, Saara is a femme lesbian. How far would she have gone if she had a stereotypical butch lesbian haircut and never wore dresses?
intoxication
30-11-2016
Originally Posted by Saint4805:
“What a ridiculous thread. There's absolutely no connection between show longevity and sexual preference. There's no evidence to suggest the show has a history of being homophobic. The LGBT community have been represented over the years via contestants, hosts and judges.”

Er, yes there is. On many occasions.
walterwhite
01-12-2016
Originally Posted by intoxication:
“Er, yes there is. On many occasions.”

When?
worldfree
01-12-2016
no, because joe mcelderry is gay and he won the show.
walterwhite
01-12-2016
Originally Posted by worldfree:
“no, because joe mcelderry is gay and he won the show.”

'Openly'.
minxymoo
02-12-2016
Who cares .a good friend of mine and her partner are an openly lesbian couple and they vote for Matt .your point is ?
emptybox
02-12-2016
I've been a Saara fan since her audition, but I'd no idea she was LGBT. Probably because I haven't seen any newspaper or mag interviews.
Doesn't make me support her more or less.
Presumably she's L or B and not T?
NicPlays
02-12-2016
Originally Posted by emptybox:
“I've been a Saara fan since her audition, but I'd no idea she was LGBT. Probably because I haven't seen any newspaper or mag interviews.
Doesn't make me support her more or less.
Presumably she's L or B and not T? ”

She's bi.
Saint4805
02-12-2016
Who cares about her sexual preferences? She's a person - same as us. It's a TV show.

I really can't stand the term LGBT community - makes it seem like a separate movement. We're the same.
mgvsmith
02-12-2016
Originally Posted by Saint4805:
“Who cares about her sexual preferences? She's a person - same as us. It's a TV show.

I really can't stand the term LGBT community - makes it seem like a separate movement. We are all the same.”

It's not that we are all the same, what a boring world it would be if we were. We can recognise that we are different but we should not discriminate or hold prejudices because of it.
Saint4805
02-12-2016
Originally Posted by mgvsmith:
“It's not that we are all the same, what a boring world it would be if we were. We can recognise that we are different but we should not discriminate or hold prejudices because of it.”

The same as in people. We become obsessed with labelling. defining or tagging people as something which just leads to more prejudice .
StratusSphere
02-12-2016
In this thread: straight people swearing blind that identity doesn't matter, we're all the same in the one breath while claiming that homophobic institutions denying visibilty to LGBT people and letting us know that we exist and are normal is a-okay too.

You can't have it both ways. Are we equal and normal or are we not? Flip it around, if sexuality can't be a thing, isn't important, then that means no-one should sing songs about love at all, boys, girls, or have a partner of opposite sex on TV because sexuality doesn't matter!! Sure, it doesn't matter - in that case I don't need to SEE that you're heterosexual!! It's fine to just BE heterosexual and not mention or draw attention to it...

Because that is essentially what you're saying, folks. That's how ridiculous it comes across.

On another note, it always sticks in my craw when contestants covering songs originally sung by someone of the opposite sex feel the necessity - or the show does for them - to change the gender of the person they're singing about or to, just in case it comes across as gay. Because that matters, clearly...
Virtuoso
02-12-2016
Originally Posted by StratusSphere:
“In this thread: straight people swearing blind that identity doesn't matter, we're all the same in the one breath while claiming that homophobic institutions denying visibilty to LGBT people and letting us know that we exist and are normal is a-okay too.

You can't have it both ways. Are we equal and normal or are we not? Flip it around, if sexuality can't be a thing, isn't important, then that means no-one should sing songs about love at all, boys, girls, or have a partner of opposite sex on TV because sexuality doesn't matter!! Sure, it doesn't matter - in that case I don't need to SEE that you're heterosexual!! It's fine to just BE heterosexual and not mention or draw attention to it...

Because that is essentially what you're saying, folks. That's how ridiculous it comes across.

On another note, it always sticks in my craw when contestants covering songs originally sung by someone of the opposite sex feel the necessity - or the show does for them - to change the gender of the person they're singing about or to, just in case it comes across as gay. Because that matters, clearly...”

I agree about changing the gender references in songs either way, it's obviously a bit silly to say the least. I don't believe that people should really call themselves homosexual, I just don't see the point. Just do what you want and if anyone has a problem with it, then make it a massive problem - really rub it in their faces. As for calling yourself heterosexual, there's really no point in that, everyone assumes everyone is anyway. For now though, we live in a world where people use these labels and it's not for heterosexual people to tell any self-identifying LGBT+ people what they should call themselves.
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