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Networks Cancelling shows mid season is the HEIGHT of disrespect |
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I think pulling a show before completing a season is crazy - by all means move it to a "graveyard slot" (or put it on your streaming service) if its viewing figures are poor, but you've spent millions making the episodes, so why not actually air them?
I think the OP's claim of needing 3 seasons to prove themselves is a bit over the top (especially in the US, where shows can have up to 26 episodes a season!), but one full season is definitely the minimum any show should expect. |
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I think pulling a show before completing a season is crazy - by all means move it to a "graveyard slot" (or put it on your streaming service) if its viewing figures are poor, but you've spent millions making the episodes, so why not actually air them?
I think the OP's claim of needing 3 seasons to prove themselves is a bit over the top (especially in the US, where shows can have up to 26 episodes a season!), but one full season is definitely the minimum any show should expect. |
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It's also handy for the Cast that if a show is going to be cancelled to end it quickly rather than keep it going for the rest of the year
Usually most Cast & other Guild Members are on a contracted amount for the season and so will be paid-up and released from their contract and thus able to seek another show, usually at the point of cancellation the next season's Pilots are being produced If they were kept on for the rest of the season, then by the time they're free the Pilots have been cast and thus the only work they're really going to be able to get its guest-starring roles until the next Pilots come along Not so great for crew though, many are employed on a week to week basis and so early termination of a show often means they're given notice and are out of a job a few weeks later |
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Both the US and UK broadcast networks got into bad habits when the money was rolling in.
The practices they developed then are not fit for purpose in this tough era of audiences. More respect for audiences is absolutely necessary. I doubt we will see it. |
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It's also handy for the Cast that if a show is going to be cancelled to end it quickly rather than keep it going for the rest of the year
Usually most Cast & other Guild Members are on a contracted amount for the season and so will be paid-up and released from their contract and thus able to seek another show, usually at the point of cancellation the next season's Pilots are being produced If they were kept on for the rest of the season, then by the time they're free the Pilots have been cast and thus the only work they're really going to be able to get its guest-starring roles until the next Pilots come along Not so great for crew though, many are employed on a week to week basis and so early termination of a show often means they're given notice and are out of a job a few weeks later |
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Both the US and UK broadcast networks got into bad habits when the money was rolling in.
The practices they developed then are not fit for purpose in this tough era of audiences. More respect for audiences is absolutely necessary. I doubt we will see it. |
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At least with the US you usually get a number of episodes even if it's only one series.
In this country, they can call it a "series" if it's got as few as three episodes. |
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I can give you two examples, both from ITV in the mid 2000's:-
1). Judgement Day (with Brian Conley) - 2003 - the ratings were so bad that the show was pulled from the schedule after only 2 episodes out of 6 had aired. The remain 4 episodes have never been aired. 2) Celebrity Wrestling - 2005 - rating were so poor, but so much money had been spent on production, that after episode 5 of 8 had aired on Saturday Prime the show went on hiatus for weeks before the final 3 episodes were aired in a graveyard Sunday Morning slot - and the ITV2 aftershow was cancelled after episode 5, ie they never got aired. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Outcasts_(TV_series) |
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But if the audience is not there in the first place their is no point carrying on with something and wasting money, when you could use the money for something else that may make money.
I'm not saying it's the main problem, it's just one thing of many. |
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I think pulling a show before completing a season is crazy - by all means move it to a "graveyard slot" (or put it on your streaming service) if its viewing figures are poor, but you've spent millions making the episodes, so why not actually air them?
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I understand the frustration of something being dropped mid-season, or ended on a cliffhanger with no renewal. US TV is much more cutthroat because there are far larger amounts of money at stake.
However, we are not problem-free over here with UK TV. There's a thing fairly recently with our TV companies, where they always need to be doing something new, even when they have a success on their hands- Home Fires (2 6 ep seasons) and Our Zoo (1 6 ep season) are good examples. Both were praised in reviews and had good audiences but were cancelled to 'make way for new content'. To me that's no better than cancelling shows that haven't done well in their first season. In fact, it feels worse! Home Fires' cancellation in particular got a very strong reaction from fans and press, and was doing well with its US broadcast. A great shame as in addition to being a great show, it was one of the few almost entirely female fronted UK shows being aired. TV is just a tough business and it would be nice if audiences were more respected, but money talks. |
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I understand the frustration of something being dropped mid-season, or ended on a cliffhanger with no renewal. US TV is much more cutthroat because there are far larger amounts of money at stake.
However, we are not problem-free over here with UK TV. There's a thing fairly recently with our TV companies, where they always need to be doing something new, even when they have a success on their hands- Home Fires (2 6 ep seasons) and Our Zoo (1 6 ep season) are good examples. Both were praised in reviews and had good audiences but were cancelled to 'make way for new content'. To me that's no better than cancelling shows that haven't done well in their first season. In fact, it feels worse! Home Fires' cancellation in particular got a very strong reaction from fans and press, and was doing well with its US broadcast. A great shame as in addition to being a great show, it was one of the few almost entirely female fronted UK shows being aired. TV is just a tough business and it would be nice if audiences were more respected, but money talks. |
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