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coppertop1
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by philltee:
“Er, I don't think so somehow. Strange that you think that - how many people will watch a youtube video of a couple dancing, just because they recognise a good song being danced to? Very strange concept indeed.

Claudia is now the most improved dancer remaining, and her and AJ's routines are the most enjoyable as they are the only ones able to dance well AND pull off incredible acrobatic moves during the dance.

James-von, take it away with your correlation statistics - you and I seem to be in the minority who understand it is not just a guessing game when it comes to correlating social media with voting.”

Er I don't think so

Claudia pulls off incredible acrobatic stunts because that's what she can do well, he feet have barely touched the floor in her last couple of dances.

It's not Strictly come lifts it is in fact Strickly come dancing.

And I don't think she is doing well at that.
james_von05
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by coppertop1:
“Er I don't think so

Claudia pulls off incredible acrobatic stunts because that's what she can do well, he feet have barely touched the floor in her last couple of dances.

It's not Strictly come lifts it is in fact Strickly come dancing.

And I don't think she is doing well at that.”

Lol are you scared?
coppertop1
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by james_von05:
“Lol are you scared?”

Of what?

Or are you really suggesting that the only reason I have said I don't like Claudia's dancing is that I would be scared that someone I want to win won't win because of Claudia?

Is that why you post as you do? Are you really one of those posters?

Good to know

Sometimes people let slip a lot in their posts.

I have people I would rather not win, but Claudia isn't one of them. It doesn't mean to say I enjoy her dancing either.
Stephen_101
06-12-2016
Claudia is easily the better female dancer. I hope she makes through to the final!
Domestos
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by Stephen_101:
“Claudia is easily the better female dancer. I hope she makes through to the final! ”

Most who know anything about actual dancing disagree it seems.

She's a great little gymnast though. And maybe will sell it better if her feet touch the ground but better as a dancer, no.
yellowlabbie
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by Stephen_101:
“Claudia is easily the better female dancer. I hope she makes through to the final! ”

I agree and easily the best entertainer.
vald
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by Stephen_101:
“Claudia is easily the better female dancer. I hope she makes through to the final! ”

Louise is the better dancer but unfortunately she is no gymnast. She's probably too old to appeal to the teens as well.
Domestos
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by vald:
“Louise is the better dancer but unfortunately she is no gymnast. She's probably too old to appeal to the teens as well.”

All the teens I know, which are a fair few, want Danny to win because he's hawt!
philltee
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by Domestos:
“All the teens I know, which are a fair few, want Danny to win because he's hawt! ”

I really hope you are a teacher. Or also a teenager.

Claudia will get most the youngsters votes.Claudia is certainly a more entertaining dancer than Louise, I am surprised you keep saying those in the know think Louise is better, that is just fallacy. Louise has zero appeal, can only do a limited array of dances as she has no flexibility or core strength or lightness of foot. Claudia on the other hand is now reaching a stage where she could do anything she put her mind to.

The real competition is Claudia vs Danny. I get the feeling they will want a shake up this weekend, and what's the best possible way? Get rid of Louise to give Claudia all the female votes, and give her a chance of beating Danny.
Domestos
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by philltee:
“I really hope you are a teacher. Or also a teenager.

Claudia will get most the youngsters votes.Claudia is certainly a more entertaining dancer than Louise, I am surprised you keep saying those in the know think Louise is better, that is just fallacy. Louise has zero appeal, can only do a limited array of dances as she has no flexibility or core strength or lightness of foot. Claudia on the other hand is now reaching a stage where she could do anything she put her mind to.

The real competition is Claudia vs Danny. I get the feeling they will want a shake up this weekend, and what's the best possible way? Get rid of Louise to give Claudia all the female votes, and give her a chance of beating Danny.”

Doesn't occur to you that maybe I work with teens? No, thought not.

Go read the dance thread. Claudia is very good but she is still not elegant in the way Louise is. Her feet are far lighter. Louise not Claudia.

I doubt anyone will beat Danny he can sell a routine like no one else.
DJMonty21
06-12-2016
At the risk of running headfirst into a fire...

Claudia is a great gymnast. Correct. Hence her routines which have required lift-work (AS, AT, Salsa, Charleston) have been pretty good. However, as some posters above have stated - a great gymnast does not an excellent dancer make. Louise is a better technical dancer than Claudia (and arguably Danny - but that's a separate point). I haven't seen Claudia execute one chaine turn correctly all series - port de bras too wide, spotting the floor, falling out of them. Too often missing footwork, and relying on tricks (and when the poor girl DOES get a difficult technical routine, it's far too difficult - looking at you, AJ). Louise, whilst not as arguably energetic as Claudia, is a better dancer. She may not be to everyone's cup of tea, and yes, several of her dances have been to nice, but her technique (first Cha Cha withstanding) has also been of a high standard. To the poster who said that Louise wasn't light on her feet - that's part of her problem, she's TOO dainty and light on her feet (the old ballet curse).

Regardless, all four have great ability - to be honest, it's all down to the choreography at this point, and how far to pro's will go to iron out any kinks in technique!
tabithakitten
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by philltee:
“I really hope you are a teacher. Or also a teenager.

Claudia will get most the youngsters votes.Claudia is certainly a more entertaining dancer than Louise, I am surprised you keep saying those in the know think Louise is better, that is just fallacy. Louise has zero appeal, can only do a limited array of dances as she has no flexibility or core strength or lightness of foot. Claudia on the other hand is now reaching a stage where she could do anything she put her mind to.

The real competition is Claudia vs Danny. I get the feeling they will want a shake up this weekend, and what's the best possible way? Get rid of Louise to give Claudia all the female votes, and give her a chance of beating Danny.”

C3PO on valium is a more entertaining dancer than Louise. However, in the purity stakes she's still far better than Claudia.

Anyone thinking that Claudia is actually a better dancer than Louise is deluding themselves. She's still somewhat stilted and her footwork is sloppy. She's much better than she was (and possibly would be better still if AJ didn't keep insisting on keeping her airborne for as long as he can get away with - although, fair play, it is what she's good at) but she's still clearly some way behind both Louise and Danny. And she's not as natural as Ore either. She's got rhythm and clearly she has loads of flexibility (unsurprisingly) but I don't actually think she's a natural dancer. Or at least she's not the natural dancer that some see to see her as. There have been several beginners over the series that have been better dancers than Claudia. Give credit though - she is entertaining and the whole package comes across well. I'd have no problem with a Claudia win.
hansue
06-12-2016
As we know from the past, its not always the best dancer that wins.

If Claudia does make it to the final, I think she stands a good chance of winning. Danny might be the best dancer this year, but that sometimes is a liability.

I am rooting for Claudia, if the other three are in the final, I probably wont watch cause none of them appeal to me for various reasons.
Domestos
06-12-2016
Originally Posted by DJMonty21:
“At the risk of running headfirst into a fire...

Claudia is a great gymnast. Correct. Hence her routines which have required lift-work (AS, AT, Salsa, Charleston) have been pretty good. However, as some posters above have stated - a great gymnast does not an excellent dancer make. Louise is a better technical dancer than Claudia (and arguably Danny - but that's a separate point). I haven't seen Claudia execute one chaine turn correctly all series - port de bras too wide, spotting the floor, falling out of them. Too often missing footwork, and relying on tricks (and when the poor girl DOES get a difficult technical routine, it's far too difficult - looking at you, AJ). Louise, whilst not as arguably energetic as Claudia, is a better dancer. She may not be to everyone's cup of tea, and yes, several of her dances have been to nice, but her technique (first Cha Cha withstanding) has also been of a high standard. To the poster who said that Louise wasn't light on her feet - that's part of her problem, she's TOO dainty and light on her feet (the old ballet curse).

Regardless, all four have great ability - to be honest, it's all down to the choreography at this point, and how far to pro's will go to iron out any kinks in technique!”

Nice post.

I really am not totally invested in any of the remainers, hell I was a Will and Anastacia fan but I would like to see someone who can move me and can dance, so Ore, Louise or Danny for me.

That said, I think Claudia is very talented and can dance a tune but I really think AJ's shiny eyed overt competitiveness is offputting to a degree.
DJMonty21
07-12-2016
Thanks! I've been a lurker for a long, long time.

To be particularly honest, I'm not overly invested in any of the four - I like Louise, and appreciate Danny is good (for a male celebrity - if he had been in my class (Musical-Theatre boy ahoy!), he'd have been pretty much average), but none of them excite me the way Kara, Alesha, Jill or Caroline did. Loved Anastasia - though I think she should have been partnered with Gorka from the start - and my favourite this series was Lesley.

If we could just get back to some real ballroom/latin dances, less gimmickery, NICE costumes...a boy can dream!
Gill P
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by DJMonty21:
“Thanks! I've been a lurker for a long, long time.

To be particularly honest, I'm not overly invested in any of the four - I like Louise, and appreciate Danny is good (for a male celebrity - if he had been in my class (Musical-Theatre boy ahoy!), he'd have been pretty much average), but none of them excite me the way Kara, Alesha, Jill or Caroline did. Loved Anastasia - though I think she should have been partnered with Gorka from the start - and my favourite this series was Lesley.

If we could just get back to some real ballroom/latin dances, less gimmickery, NICE costumes...a boy can dream!”

You are right about Danny and Musical Theatre (or performing arts). I have read that he wasn't the best on his dance course and friends are surprised how well he is doing. He knows how to put on a performance though.
DJMonty21
07-12-2016
Yep - I can vouch that he's technically alright, but nothing extraordinary (at the risk of starting a war, much like Jay - both boys can dance, but haven't been properly harnessed to Ballroom/Latin). I miss the days of the earlier series, where a 40 a series wasn't a given, and scores were way lower. Danny did a good Samba, but so much of the technique was rough.
sofakat
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by Reem2011:
“Louise could take the crown”


I thought it was a plastic glitter ball?
edy10
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by sofakat:
“I thought it was a plastic glitter ball? ”

😂😂😂😂😂
vald
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by DJMonty21:
“Thanks! I've been a lurker for a long, long time.

To be particularly honest, I'm not overly invested in any of the four - I like Louise, and appreciate Danny is good (for a male celebrity - if he had been in my class (Musical-Theatre boy ahoy!), he'd have been pretty much average), but none of them excite me the way Kara, Alesha, Jill or Caroline did. Loved Anastasia - though I think she should have been partnered with Gorka from the start - and my favourite this series was Lesley.

If we could just get back to some real ballroom/latin dances, less gimmickery, NICE costumes...a boy can dream!”

There's no one that excites me this year. There's been some decent enough performances but nothing that's warranted the 10paddle coming out. But then audiences seem to demand perfect scores these days or they take to twitter in their hoards
DJMonty21
07-12-2016
Precisely. I remember the excitement of Jill's first 10, let alone 40! Now they're just given out like sweeties to dances that people barely remember (who can really recall Pammie's QS? Lisa's CCC? Kellie's Tango?)
Gwaed Waedlyd
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by james_von05:
“Claudia is gaining more unique shares and views on facebook and twitter... it is good indication of voting figures... number of views is a good reflection of what people really enjoyed watching... entertaining to watch convert to votes... it is not rocket science.”

Yeah and if we based on what people was saying on social media this year, we would not have picked leave to brexit, Hilary Clinton would have been president and Jason would have won Big Brother over the top,
aggs
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by DJMonty21:
“Precisely. I remember the excitement of Jill's first 10, let alone 40! Now they're just given out like sweeties to dances that people barely remember (who can really recall Pammie's QS? Lisa's CCC? Kellie's Tango?)”

Sadly, all of those I recall all too well.
Wish there was a way not to 😥😥😥😥
Stephen_101
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by DJMonty21:
“Precisely. I remember the excitement of Jill's first 10, let alone 40! Now they're just given out like sweeties to dances that people barely remember (who can really recall Pammie's QS? Lisa's CCC? Kellie's Tango?)”

Kellie's tango was great! It definitely deserved a 40.
DJMonty21
07-12-2016
Originally Posted by Stephen_101:
“Kellie's tango was great! It definitely deserved a 40.”

I respectfully disagree! Out of hold (and occasionally in hold) her shoulders were up around her ears, some odd footwork and...smiling in a tango: No Thank You!
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