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Old 29-11-2016, 11:26
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I am sorry.... but i don't get the hype around Matt at all?

What is so good about him?

I was there live on saturday, and he was average at best.

Coming to the final 4, Saara is in a class of her own.

If she doesn't win the final by at least a 70%-30% margin, then I have lost faith in the British Public
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Old 29-11-2016, 11:36
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I have absolutely no idea.
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Old 29-11-2016, 11:37
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He wasn't that great this week but a few of my friends went to see him when he preformed 'Writing's on the wall' and they said he was amazing. The whole audience were one their feet. It gets harder when you start preforming 2 songs and Saara has more experience than Matt so of course vocally she is better. I think there are times when Matt sounds good and then times where he sounds average but overall he can sing, has the looks, has stage presence and a nice personality. I can see why he is so popular. Matt would beat Saara in a final two for sure, Saara hasn't go the big fanbase and there's still people who think she's too West End and Cabaret. I think her voice is nothing special either...Sam Bailey was far better than Saara is.
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Old 29-11-2016, 11:44
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He wasn't that great this week but a few of my friends went to see him when he preformed 'Writing's on the wall' and they said he was amazing. The whole audience were one their feet. It gets harder when you start preforming 2 songs and Saara has more experience than Matt so of course vocally she is better. I think there are times when Matt sounds good and then times where he sounds average but overall he can sing, has the looks, has stage presence and a nice personality. I can see why he is so popular. Matt would beat Saara in a final two for sure, Saara hasn't go the big fanbase and there's still people who think she's too West End and Cabaret. I think her voice is nothing special either...Sam Bailey was far better than Saara is.
lol watch sam bailey "enough is enough", then Saara's..... then repeat that comment
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Old 29-11-2016, 12:17
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I only watched the auditions stage of this series and thought he sounded good but I wouldn't be rushing to iTunes to buy his stuff. However, in the little parts I've seen of him in the live shows I think he really needs to work on his falsetto.

IMO a big part of why he's being voted for isn't because of his voice - it's because it has been mentioned several times that he bears a resemblance to Louis Tomlinson so that alone is going to get the teen vote.

Saara is the only one left who I'm impressed with vocally and performance wise.
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Old 29-11-2016, 12:24
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Not sure. People seem to go mad for his falsetto, but for me its very weak, a thin sound that is just not pleasant musically. He often misses the notes he tries for as well.

Secret Love Song is a great example of all the problems he has.

In the context of this show, where talent is itself thin on the ground, he's probably second to saara even with those issues (the show should have helped him with them by now, i thought that wsd the point of the vocal coaches).

He is also very obviously been trained at stage school, and its all a little cliched when he performs, the glances to camera and so on.

Most of all, I just wish he would either grow a mustache properly or shave the bum fluff, it annoys me beyond rationality for some reason..
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Old 29-11-2016, 12:34
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Nothing. He's quite good for the most part, but not great, imo.
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Old 29-11-2016, 12:58
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Didn't rate his attempt of Writing's on the Wall, he resembled a bleating goat at times.
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Old 29-11-2016, 13:58
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He is so ordinary it hurts. Ability to do falsetto does not a singer make. Musical blancmange.
And he needs to wipe that smug look off his face as it's very irritating.
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Old 29-11-2016, 13:58
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Don't get it at all :/ I can see an argument for the three others - not him!!
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Old 29-11-2016, 14:29
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He's not terrible, but definitely no Saara, his voice is just not big enough, and this was seen with his rendition of 'Alive' on saturday, need I say more?
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Old 29-11-2016, 14:59
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I don't get it either. I also don't find him particularly likeable, just something smug about him. (I've thought this since his first audition).

He's definitely not bad and one of the better ones this series but that's not saying much.
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Old 29-11-2016, 15:17
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If he wins he will just disappear like all the other male vocalists who've won the XF.
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Old 29-11-2016, 15:36
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Matt appeals to viewers that really strongly dislikes the styles of Music going on in the year, it's why most of the winners that do happen don't have a very strong identity on what Music path they're going down, in fact it might explain why most of the winners flop which Matt most definitely will if he wins.
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Old 29-11-2016, 20:09
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I think the older viewers might take to him too
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Old 29-11-2016, 20:32
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The pros:

He seems like a really genuine and nice lad and seems really blown away by the support he's receiving; he has a really great head voice that he uses adeptly most of the time; when he has a clean attack on a belt, he sounds fantastic; he's a good-looking lad.

The cons:

He comes across as a bit reserved and it's hard to get a gauge of what sort of personality he is; it's hard to know where he'll fit in the music scene; he's not great at managing his vocal break which means he lets out a yelp sound quite often unintentionally which makes him sound a little unpalatable.

Overall, he's good. He's not for me, but I can't imagine hating him unless you're just a horrible person. To be fair, I can't imagine hating anyone from the TV, it seems like only you lose in that situation. But there are weird people out here who let TV upset them.
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Old 30-11-2016, 09:22
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I am sorry.... but i don't get the hype around Matt at all?

What is so good about him?

I was there live on saturday, and he was average at best.

Coming to the final 4, Saara is in a class of her own.

If she doesn't win the final by at least a 70%-30% margin, then I have lost faith in the British Public
Matt's a very good singer. He can reach high notes easily. Not quite as good as Saara but he's still very good though.
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Old 30-11-2016, 10:52
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I think the older viewers might take to him too
Could well be as I am an older viewer
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Old 30-11-2016, 16:15
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Matt's a very good singer. He can reach high notes easily. Not quite as good as Saara but he's still very good though.
But just because he reaches high notes doesn't make him a fantastic singer.

I said this about Sam Bailey and Louisa Johnson in their years though that showboaty singing doesn't equal greatness but the public fall for the same gimmicks on these singing shows every single year so no wonder Matt is the favourite for his high notes.
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Old 30-11-2016, 16:31
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Could well be as I am an older viewer
ill be voting for him because hes my favourite contestant left not because im 21 and he reminds me of Louis Tomlinson.the hostility on here towards Matt and anyone who dares to support him has been shocking but ultimately boring .unlike Matt who has turned in consistently good performances every week . I can only liken it to supporting Bear on the CBB forum this year. I hope he wins just to annoy the detractors as I did with Bear.
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Old 30-11-2016, 19:12
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But just because he reaches high notes doesn't make him a fantastic singer.

I said this about Sam Bailey and Louisa Johnson in their years though that showboaty singing doesn't equal greatness but the public fall for the same gimmicks on these singing shows every single year so no wonder Matt is the favourite for his high notes.
Well, I didn't say he was a fantastic singer, just a very good one. I only mentioned that he could hit high notes easily as one example. Going back to the thread title, he also puts a lot of passion into his performances. He, in my eyes, behaves like a musical performer should on the stage. He really goes for it at times. I think Saara and Matt are great to watch.
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Old 30-11-2016, 19:16
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But just because he reaches high notes doesn't make him a fantastic singer.

I said this about Sam Bailey and Louisa Johnson in their years though that showboaty singing doesn't equal greatness but the public fall for the same gimmicks on these singing shows every single year so no wonder Matt is the favourite for his high notes.
I think Louisa was really very good and Sam Bailey was as well (though personally wasn't a fan of her at all). They both had some problems vocally but they were very gifted. I'd say Matt is but he's not quite as good as them. What makes you think that Louisa and Sam Bailey aren't very good?
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Old 30-11-2016, 19:41
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I think Louisa was really very good and Sam Bailey was as well (though personally wasn't a fan of her at all). They both had some problems vocally but they were very gifted. I'd say Matt is but he's not quite as good as them. What makes you think that Louisa and Sam Bailey aren't very good?
My problem with Louisa and Sam Bailey is the same thing, neither could build up their performances, so they substituted that weakness for loud noises that got really irritating by week 3.

There's more potential for Louisa as she's still so young to get better, but Sam Bailey was completely ordinary when she weren't shouting and when she was younger I bet that she was weaker than all of the younger acts in this series.
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Old 30-11-2016, 19:57
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My problem with Louisa and Sam Bailey is the same thing, neither could build up their performances, so they substituted that weakness for loud noises that got really irritating by week 3.

There's more potential for Louisa as she's still so young to get better, but Sam Bailey was completely ordinary when she weren't shouting and when she was younger I bet that she was weaker than all of the younger acts in this series.
I can see what you mean in a sense but if you listen to when she did Jealous by Labyrinth, she paced it really well. She's ill but apart from her vocal dynamics are great: just consider how she us vibrato on 'the best of' and then cuts it out by pulling up lots of chest voice for 'all this world could give'. I think she's great with dynamics but sometimes her tone can be harsh.

Another thing, if you compare her to someone like Sam (not Bailey, the one from this season) there's a huge difference in vocal attack; Louisa sang clean nearly all the time, whereas with Sam (and even this year's Matt) there's a great deal of cracking at the beginning of notes because they're good but they're not great at transitioning between registers.

But like Leona, Alexandra, Matt or any of them, they all have weaknesses. I had singing training, but they're in a league I can only imagine in terms of how good they all are. At the same time, it's fair if you don't think she's great. But I'd say maybe listen to that Labyrinth cover and see if you can see what I mean.
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Old 30-11-2016, 20:10
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I can see what you mean in a sense but if you listen to when she did Jealous by Labyrinth, she paced it really well. She's ill but apart from her vocal dynamics are great: just consider how she us vibrato on 'the best of' and then cuts it out by pulling up lots of chest voice for 'all this world could give'. I think she's great with dynamics but sometimes her tone can be harsh.

Another thing, if you compare her to someone like Sam (not Bailey, the one from this season) there's a huge difference in vocal attack; Louisa sang clean nearly all the time, whereas with Sam (and even this year's Matt) there's a great deal of cracking at the beginning of notes because they're good but they're not great at transitioning between registers.

But like Leona, Alexandra, Matt or any of them, they all have weaknesses. I had singing training, but they're in a league I can only imagine in terms of how good they all are. At the same time, it's fair if you don't think she's great. But I'd say maybe listen to that Labyrinth cover and see if you can see what I mean.
Labyrinth isn't the greatest singer in the industry by any means, but he puts more emotion into Jealous than just loud booming vocals that Louisa does in my view, as I've already said I think that she could get better when she's older as proper vocal coaches will get a hold of her I reckon and train the horrible habits out of her, but on the show she never should've won just purely off the volume of her voice.

And with Sam Lavery I think there's a few differences already here, the main thing is that it's alot harder for someone in their teens to go into an alternative sounding Music (especially Rock) than it is for someone to do loud booming Diva sounds, and I also do feel that Sam did try to sing subtle in most weeks, in particular she did it really well during Hello, what's hurting Sam and vocal coaches will need to get a hold of her if she gets signed to any label after the show and tell her not to abuse the loud Rock notes so much and not put it in places where it's not needed, it's actually impressive that she can do the notes at such a young age, but she needed experienced vocal coaches to tell her when to use it.

And with Matt Terry it's simple with him, I think that he needs to completely drop the falsetto as he can't do it, it sounds painful every single time that he attempts it, the best avenue for Matt imo is Modelling, I just don't think that his a singer in the slightest.
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