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Week 11 Dances Confirmed
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bendymixer
29-11-2016
Originally Posted by jtnorth:
“Well, I'm assuming that, going on every other ballroom this year, they will be able to do minimal foxtrot and loads of faffing and Ore will look fantastic as Wonka. And it's a very familiar storyline and I think recognition generally helps on musicals night, it creates positive associations. Louise has a good character that will suit her and that she can have fun with, but it is to my non-dancer ear pretty gallopy. Claudia has recognition and a good song but will they dress them as lions? Danny and the Judge have good songs, but not, in my view for the dances, and not the same familiar loved characters to play.

I will admit that last year I thought Jay was disadvantaged by having the least familiar musical and it still worked really well because it suited him, even if a lot of people hated the costumes. But I would guess that Ore, Claudia and the Judge are potentially in danger and looking at that list, Ore is safe with that song, Claudia may well be in the dance off and the Judge is even more likely than he already was to go home.”

Have to agree with all you say, Deadwood stage is a bit gallopy - our dance school is over 50 years old we still have all dads vinyls and from what me and my brother have collected over years and dont think we have that track as a QS
claire2281
29-11-2016
Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“Not this late in the competition, it's really unfair. They wouldn't give injured Laura 2 consecutive ballroom numbers in week 7, but Louise gets in week 11. Louise will do it next week because she has two dances and judges will manipulate the scoring again.
Easy to do it when there are two dances. .”

From what I gather the dance order is decided well in advance - celebs have spoken before about knowing what they were doing in a few weeks. Laura's dance order was known well before she hurt her ankle and frankly she just had to get on with it.

As for the music, Ore has by far the best of it. Danny's is much too fast (disco tango?!). Louise's is good but she has to be really carefully not to trot through it. Rinder is stuffed doing the samba either way and Claudia has a silly song for the salsa. It's popular but the salsa have all been dreadful this year (mostly down to horrible choreography).
little_lexie
29-11-2016
I just really hope they don't dress Claudia and AJ as lions, far too novelty for someone as good as she is. Save that for the Ed Balls and Mark Benton comedy acts. I was hoping after the AT last week they might continue to allow her to be a grown up, obviously not.
Fuchsia Groan
29-11-2016
Originally Posted by claire2281:
“From what I gather the dance order is decided well in advance - celebs have spoken before about knowing what they were doing in a few weeks. Laura's dance order was known well before she hurt her ankle and frankly she just had to get on with it.

As for the music, Ore has by far the best of it. Danny's is much too fast (disco tango?!). Louise's is good but she has to be really carefully not to trot through it. Rinder is stuffed doing the samba either way and Claudia has a silly song for the salsa. It's popular but the salsa have all been dreadful this year (mostly down to horrible choreography).”

Except for the gangnam salsa, obviously..........................
Domestos
29-11-2016
Originally Posted by yellowlabbie:
“It's hardly physical though, gymnastics and dancing, both very physical but, hey, don't give any credit to Claudia.”

But that is what she is used to, being physical and all, she's been doing it for years. So not really going to give her extra credit for that. And of course, like the others also working, would have known their schedules prior to signing up.

But yes, credit to all of them.
ABCZYX
29-11-2016
Originally Posted by bendymixer:
“whatever Louise and Kevin had been given it would be a conspiracy”

Oh, wouldn't it just?
Tejas
29-11-2016
Originally Posted by RickLopez:
“That's 3 latins in a row now for Judge Rinder.”

Its also his last Latin dance I believe - he then has Waltz, Tango & Argentine Tango left I think, meaning IF he is in the semis he will have to do 2 ballroom dances!

Sometimes the conspiracy theories write themselves on this show...
Tejas
29-11-2016
Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“Not this late in the competition, it's really unfair. They wouldn't give injured Laura 2 consecutive ballroom numbers in week 7, but Louise gets in week 11. Louise will do it next week because she has two dances and judges will manipulate the scoring again.
Easy to do it when there are two dances. .”

I just knew Louise would save one of Salsa/Samba until she had 2 dances and skip the other one, soooo predictable.
LaughingSock
29-11-2016
Originally Posted by Tejas:
“Its also his last Latin dance I believe - he then has Waltz, Tango & Argentine Tango left I think, meaning IF he is in the semis he will have to do 2 ballroom dances!

Sometimes the conspiracy theories write themselves on this show...”

Can you honestly see him making it that long, though? Having three ballroom dances left doesn't really mean anything if they're all set in weeks after the week you know Rob is going to be tossed out on his ear.

Think about it, though. He was just in the bottom two, so it's not out of order to think that he might be there again, and can you imagine the judges picking him over anyone that's left? So unless the voting public starts voting for him en masse, he's gone this Sunday before he can dance any of those ballroom dances.
Fudd
29-11-2016
This weekend has Judge Rinder v Claudia; Judge Rinder eliminated written all over it to be honest. Judge Rinder has to follow on from THAT Samba and they've given Claudia a song which has been used, albeit unsuitably, for a Samba before. Going by the song they're turning them into five year olds again.

After questions about theme I'd say Ore and Joanne probably have the most suitable song - the choices for Danny & Oti and Louise & Kevin sound very fast for the respective dances.
Sarah777
29-11-2016
Originally Posted by Tejas:
“I just knew Louise would save one of Salsa/Samba until she had 2 dances and skip the other one, soooo predictable. ”

My prediction for week 12:

Louise will dance the Salsa/ Samba (most likely Salsa) first and then dance the Tango
second, that way even if she is in DO, she will dance the Tango in the DO and judges will save her. I can't see Danny being the DO or they might give Danny the Latin number as his second dance. If she had danced the Salsa this week, she would have had to dance that in the DO and more chances of her going out. In the two dances week, though she dances the Salsa, her DO dance will be a ballroom. Producers think we are mugs.
JohnStannard
29-11-2016
I think JR has good music& could escape danger if he pulls the Samba off, Claudia has the worst IMO could easily result in a DO
Sarah777
29-11-2016
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“This weekend has Judge Rinder v Claudia; Judge Rinder eliminated written all over it to be honest. Judge Rinder has to follow on from THAT Samba and they've given Claudia a song which has been used, albeit unsuitably, for a Samba before. Going by the song they're turning them into five year olds again.

After questions about theme I'd say Ore and Joanne probably have the most suitable song - the choices for Danny & Oti and Louise & Kevin sound very fast for the respective dances.”

I just realised that Robert danced a Rumba and has to dance a Samba, very unfair.
There is no need for Robert to do 2 Latins in a row. More like being thrown under a bus.

Why is Robert not dancing a Waltz or an AT??. Asked to do a Samba straight after Danny's, really cruel.
RickLopez
29-11-2016
Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“I just realised that Robert danced a Rumba and has to dance a Samba, very unfair.
There is no need for Robert to do 2 Latins in a row. More like being thrown under a bus.

Why is Robert not dancing a Waltz or an AT??”

He danced a Salsa before that as well. 3 latins.

If he gets through to the semis, he'll do an AT and a normal ballroom.
Tejas
29-11-2016
Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“I just realised that Robert danced a Rumba and has to dance a Samba, very unfair.
There is no need for Robert to do 2 Latins in a row. More like being thrown under a bus.”

Its 3 isn't it? He did the Salsa at Blackpool.


Originally Posted by LaughingSock:
“Can you honestly see him making it that long, though? Having three ballroom dances left doesn't really mean anything if they're all set in weeks after the week you know Rob is going to be tossed out on his ear.

Think about it, though. He was just in the bottom two, so it's not out of order to think that he might be there again, and can you imagine the judges picking him over anyone that's left? So unless the voting public starts voting for him en masse, he's gone this Sunday before he can dance any of those ballroom dances.”

That's not the point. He is obviously the most likely to leave but until he does go its by no means certain so using his last Latin dance up now seems a bit odd at best, and downright manipulative at worst. If he does make up to Semi-finals, and say he dances Tango and Waltz, that will seem pretty weird!
Monkseal
29-11-2016
Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“My prediction for week 12:

Louise will dance the Salsa/ Samba (most likely Salsa) first and then dance the Tango
second, that way even if she is in DO, she will dance the Tango in the DO and judges will save her. I can't see Danny being the DO or they might give Danny the Latin number as his second dance. If she had danced the Salsa this week, she would have had to dance that in the DO and more chances of her going out. In the two dances week, though she dances the Salsa, her DO dance will be a ballroom. Producers think we are mugs.”

It's not about what order you do the dances in. In Series 12 Jake did his cha cha first and his Viennese Waltz second, and reprised his cha cha in the dance-off. Likewise in Series 11 Patrick did his waltz before his paso, and then did his waltz again.
Fudd
29-11-2016
Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“It's not about what order you do the dances in. In Series 12 Jake did his cha cha first and his Viennese Waltz second, and reprised his cha cha in the dance-off. Likewise in Series 11 Patrick did his waltz before his paso, and then did his waltz again.”

With four left I wonder if they'll have a Dance Off for the semi finals? Presumably, if so, they'll stick to the couple dancing their highest scoring dance but personally I think they should switch to their lowest. Not that it really matters in the great scheme of things.
Monkseal
29-11-2016
They've got to pick themselves recently (Natalie picked her 38 scoring A. Tango over her 40 scoring salsa) but I get the impression they do it in advance, so they don't know what's scored what when they set their tactics out. The listings for the semis look like there will be a dance-off, and I can't see them ditching it sadly.
boab34
29-11-2016
Originally Posted by RickLopez:
“Claudia and AJ will be dancing the Salsa to ‘I Just Can’t Wait To Be King’ from the Lion King
Danny and Oti will be dancing the Tango to ‘One Night Only’ from Dreamgirls
Judge Rinder and Oksana will be dancing the Samba to ‘Oh! What a Night!’ from Jersey Boys
Louise and Kevin will be dancing the Quickstep to ‘The Deadwood Stage’ from Calamity Jane
Ore and Joanne will be dancing the Foxtrot to ‘Pure Imagination’ from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory”

looks like Claudia and Judge Rinder will be bottom 2 this week ...
Sarah777
29-11-2016
Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“It's not about what order you do the dances in. In Series 12 Jake did his cha cha first and his Viennese Waltz second, and reprised his cha cha in the dance-off. Likewise in Series 11 Patrick did his waltz before his paso, and then did his waltz again.”

My point was Louise is dancing Salsa/Samba on a week where she will have ballroom as her DO dance. Louise will surely dance the Tango in the DO. If she had danced the Salsa this week, she might not have survived the DO, with a Salsa.
Fudd
29-11-2016
Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“They've got to pick themselves recently (Natalie picked her 38 scoring A. Tango over her 40 scoring salsa) but I get the impression they do it in advance, so they don't know what's scored what when they set their tactics out. The listings for the semis look like there will be a dance-off, and I can't see them ditching it sadly.”

Surely it'd make more sense to send them into the final without revealing who finished third in the semi finals? Though I suppose being third in a combined score might be different to third in a public only vote.

I didn't realise they could pick themselves. I still think they should be forced to dance their weakest dance but I'm nasty like that.
Sarah777
29-11-2016
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“With four left I wonder if they'll have a Dance Off for the semi finals? Presumably, if so, they'll stick to the couple dancing their highest scoring dance but personally I think they should switch to their lowest. Not that it really matters in the great scheme of things.”

I think semifinal should be public votes only.
Monkseal
29-11-2016
Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“My point was Louise is dancing Salsa/Samba on a week where she will have ballroom as her DO dance. Louise will the dancing the Tango in the DO. If she had danced the Salsa this week she might not have survived the DO with a Salsa.”

Sorry, I thought by you saying that Danny would dance his latin dance second in the semi final you felt that that mattered.

Everyone gets to skip a dance. Everyone (other than arguably Rinder, although A. Tango has been counted as both latin and ballroom before) has one ballroom and one latin for the semi final. I really don't see the problem.
Sarah777
29-11-2016
Originally Posted by Monkseal:
“Sorry, I thought by you saying that Danny would dance his latin dance second in the semi final you felt that that mattered.

Everyone gets to skip a dance. Everyone (other than arguably Rinder, although A. Tango has been counted as both latin and ballroom before) has one ballroom and one latin for the semi final. I really don't see the problem.”

I also said Danny very unlikely to be in the DO. My point was Louise with her ballroom will be saved over others.

Skipping a dance is different from dancing 2 ballroom dances in a row. This was her Latin week and she has Salsa and Samba to do.

I take your point that the celebs can choose, I have my doubts, but I will take your word for it. My point was that Louise was dancing the weakest dance on a week where she will have a ballroom as her DO dance, that is a luxury and Louise will be saved, even if both couples danced ballroom.
bendymixer
29-11-2016
Originally Posted by Sarah777:
“I also said Danny very unlikely to be in the DO. My point was Louise with her ballroom will be saved over others.

Skipping a dance is different from dancing 2 ballroom dances in a row. This was her Latin week and she has Salsa and Samba to do.

I take your point that the celebs can choose, I have my doubts, but I will take your word for it. My point was that Louise was dancing the weakest dance on a week where she will have a ballroom as her DO dance, that is a luxury and Louise will be saved, even if both couples danced ballroom.”

other people have done 2 ballroom or 2 latin in a row before and I have seen no moans about that - rinder himself did two ballrooms a couple of weeks ago.

Would imagine producers picked what was done this week (several weeks ago) to fit in with musical themes more than anything else. From what you have posted think you believe that Louise has achieved something by not doing a samba or salsa - but a quickstep to a tricky piece of music my be a worse choice - it is impossible to say until the dance is seen.
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