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Old 30-11-2016, 10:07
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Yes, it's hard to believe that viewers would vote for a gold-medal winning Olympian and a retired Premier League winning footballer rather than a daytime TV presenter .

I'm hoping that Martin isn't anywhere near as popular with the majority of voters as he seems to be with the posters on here. He can be quite amusing at times but I find him rather tedious tbh, so the sooner he leaves the better AFAIC.

I'm not quite sure what you mean there? Are you suggesting that viewers would be voting on Celeb status of campmates? rather than entertainment value which I thought was what these type shows encouraged you to vote on, your favourite not the celeb or zeleb status of campmates.
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Old 30-11-2016, 11:23
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Larry has a very high opinion of himself...used to quite like him but after watching him on this show gone completely off him....bully is the best word suited to him.

Martin all the way for me
Same here.the nice old grandad persona wore off very quickly.Lamb name drops like hes an A plusser not the jobbing actor he really is..Martin is a lovely guy .no mask worn there. exactly the same as you see on HUTH.him or Joel to win for me.
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Old 30-11-2016, 11:44
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That 2nd link didn't work. I've found these from a post from last year;

Bottom Two's
Vote 1 - Susannah & Chris (Actual B2, Susannah Out)
Vote 2 - Brian & Yvette (Actual B2, Brian Out)
Vote 3 - Yvette & Chris (Duncan announced as Bottom 2, Yvette Out)
Vote 4 - Chris & Lady C (Tony announced as Bottom 2, Chris Out)
Vote 5 - Duncan & Tony (Actual B2, Duncan Out)
Vote 6 - Tony & Jorgie (Ferne announced as Bottom 2, Tony Out)
Vote 7 - Jorgie & Kieron (both out)

So I'd say that's about 50%, so not 90%
2015 was not a typical year. The three previous years it only happened once per series.

I don'y really know why they do it but looking back, it seems to happen once a series most years with the odd exception. I admit 90% may not be entirely accurate but then 4 out of 7 (as above) is not 50% either!
One thing we can safely say, we don't know until the end what the real story is, but, even in a bad year, the "bottom two" is more often true than not.
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Old 30-11-2016, 11:53
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It's hard to believe the likes of Sam, Wayne etc. had more votes than Martin. What do people think?
How many people watch daytime TV or HUTH? I had little idea of who he was and he hardly made an appealing first impression.
It will be interesting to see how he behaves after that result in tonight's show.
A good test of his new found cooperative behaviour and "niceness" Are they deliberately stirring him up again? I hope he's found enough maturity and sense not to go back to that.
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Old 30-11-2016, 12:43
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I'm not quite sure what you mean there? Are you suggesting that viewers would be voting on Celeb status of campmates? rather than entertainment value which I thought was what these type shows encouraged you to vote on, your favourite not the celeb or zeleb status of campmates.
I didn't understand why it was hard to believe that Sam and Wayne would have fans that would vote for them because they like them in and out of the programme. It's not a difficult concept.
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Old 30-11-2016, 12:44
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2015 was not a typical year. The three previous years it only happened once per series.

I don'y really know why they do it but looking back, it seems to happen once a series most years with the odd exception. I admit 90% may not be entirely accurate but then 4 out of 7 (as above) is not 50% either!
One thing we can safely say, we don't know until the end what the real story is, but, even in a bad year, the "bottom two" is more often true than not.
I didn't count the last one as they were both out.

I assume they will manipulate this to make for good viewing and skew the votes. However carol was in the bottom two for the first 2 vote offs this year which is a bit cruel if she technically shouldn't have been.

Full stats are on wikipedia for each series btw
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Old 30-11-2016, 12:48
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2015 was not a typical year. The three previous years it only happened once per series.

I don'y really know why they do it but looking back, it seems to happen once a series most years with the odd exception. I admit 90% may not be entirely accurate but then 4 out of 7 (as above) is not 50% either!
One thing we can safely say, we don't know until the end what the real story is, but, even in a bad year, the "bottom two" is more often true than not.
So, it turns out your own data showed that I was right - you made it up.

And it turns out that I didn't end up 'looking silly' as was suggested by someone. I ended up looking correct.

Apology accepted.
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Old 30-11-2016, 13:07
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So, it turns out your own data showed that I was right - you made it up.

And it turns out that I didn't end up 'looking silly' as was suggested by someone. I ended up looking correct.

Apology accepted.


Not sure how you work than one out.

Just because last year was a bit different than previous years and they used false bottom two more often doesn't mean they made it up. Go back and look at the stats for all the series yourself and you'll see that the 'wildcard' only happened once or maybe twice in the previous series.

90% may have been an approximation but it certainly wasn't made up.
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Old 30-11-2016, 14:02
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So, it turns out your own data showed that I was right - you made it up.

And it turns out that I didn't end up 'looking silly' as was suggested by someone. I ended up looking correct.

Apology accepted.
Your talking shite you asked for proove that the voting results are public and if you go back to 08 when voting numbers have been realesed including all public votes the bottom 2 is real a vedry high % of the time.

you should apologise for talking nonsense to everyone
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Old 30-11-2016, 15:57
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Mostly, it is the bottom two. They usually throw in a wildcard once or twice per series but 90% of the time it is the actual bottom two.
Incorrect, as shown by the data subsequently provided.
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Old 30-11-2016, 16:10
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i just want martin to beat larry
Definitely!
Actually, I'd like Martin to win it.
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Old 30-11-2016, 16:19
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How many people watch daytime TV or HUTH? I had little idea of who he was and he hardly made an appealing first impression.
It will be interesting to see how he behaves after that result in tonight's show.
A good test of his new found cooperative behaviour and "niceness" Are they deliberately stirring him up again? I hope he's found enough maturity and sense not to go back to that.
HUTH has a huge following. Been running for years. I record the programmes to watch later as a lot of people do.
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Old 30-11-2016, 16:32
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Incorrect, as shown by the data subsequently provided.
The data provided was only for last year.
Have you checked the other years yet?
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Old 30-11-2016, 16:34
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HUTH has a huge following. Been running for years. I record the programmes to watch later as a lot of people do.
I love a bit of Martin and Lucy with my Yorkshire Tea and my Toast every morning.great fun show and their fantastic presenters.
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Old 30-11-2016, 16:37
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Incorrect, as shown by the data subsequently provided.
Did you miss the post where I said it was a inaccurate guess?
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Old 30-11-2016, 16:38
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The data provided was only for last year.
Have you checked the other years yet?
The person making the bold (incorrect) assertion needs to provide the evidence (which doesn't exist).
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Old 30-11-2016, 16:39
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Did you miss the post where I said it was a inaccurate guess and apologised?
No, I saw that, thank you. Apology accepted.

There are some other odd people who are still trying to make me out as foolish for (correctly) challenging your (incorrect) assertion.
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Old 30-11-2016, 16:42
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The person making the bold (incorrect) assertion needs to provide the evidence (which doesn't exist).
I have already said the 90% was a mistake, which you seem to continue to ignore but the records show that the "bottom two" is accurate on most occasions.
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Old 30-11-2016, 16:44
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No, I saw that, thank you. Apology accepted.

There are some other odd people who are still trying to make me out as foolish for (correctly) challenging your (incorrect) assertion.
Did you also miss the part where I said that in the previous three years, the "bottom two" was only wrong once each year?
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Old 30-11-2016, 16:50
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HUTH has a huge following. Been running for years. I record the programmes to watch later as a lot of people do.
No daytime TV show has a "huge" following. The viewing figures are similar to a few daytime shows including Jeremy Kyle and Loose Women.

It may be under threat, the reason Martin's on IAC?

Homes Under The Hammer to be axed? Host Martin Roberts angry over government calls to drop show
http://tv.bt.com/tv/tv-news/homes-un...11364067797845

Mr Whittingdale’s plan outlining the future of the BBC singled out Martin’s show Homes Under The Hammer for criticism, alongside other daytime favourites Bargain Hunt and Escape To The Country.

It suggested that they were part of “a static daytime schedule highly reliant on long-running property and collectables programming”.
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Old 30-11-2016, 16:54
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Messa is wrong as they thought the voting records werent public knwoledge and they are now moving the goal posts and arguing over the %. Messa was 100% wrong but someone who says apology accepted when none is offered will never admit they were wrong so save yourself the hassle
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Old 30-11-2016, 16:56
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HUTH has a huge following. Been running for years. I record the programmes to watch later as a lot of people do.
the only Huth I know won a champions medal with Leicester City last season
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Old 30-11-2016, 17:00
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Messa is wrong as they thought the voting records werent public knwoledge and they are now moving the goal posts and arguing over the %. Messa was 100% wrong but someone who says apology accepted when none is offered will never admit they were wrong so save yourself the hassle
Thanks.
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Old 30-11-2016, 17:02
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Messa is wrong as they thought the voting records werent public knwoledge and they are now moving the goal posts and arguing over the %. Messa was 100% wrong but someone who says apology accepted when none is offered will never admit they were wrong so save yourself the hassle
Have you ever taken a verbal or critical reasoning test?

I think I could have a good stab at your score if you did. 😀
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Old 30-11-2016, 17:05
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Did you also miss the part where I said that in the previous three years, the "bottom two" was only wrong once each year?
I saw that as well thanks.

Still not 90% is it?

You remember the 90% that you described as a fact.

And then rightly and humbly apologized and confirmed it was not a fact and not correct.

It seems others struggle to comprehend. I wouldn't worry about it - it's their problem, not yours.
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