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Old 30-11-2016, 14:21
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I have had my Nexus 5X for a year now but don't intend to upgrade to Google Pixel as it's far too expensive. I am tempted by the new Oneplus 3T but so far see the drawback on it being released with Marshmallow and no Google Now which I use a lot. Is anyone else going for it or has anyone any experience of Oneplus and the Oxygen OS?
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Old 30-11-2016, 17:20
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I was really tempted by it, but I would have had to go for the 128gb version and spending just over £400 put me off as well as the screen just being HD (especially for a larger screen).

In the end I found a decent deal on a Galaxy S7 from the Amazon Warehouse so went for one of those (would have been far too much at the normal price for me).
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Old 30-11-2016, 17:38
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Mine should be arriving tomorrow but I don't think I'll be keeping it.
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Old 30-11-2016, 18:32
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I was really tempted by it, but I would have had to go for the 128gb version and spending just over £400 put me off as well as the screen just being HD (especially for a larger screen).

In the end I found a decent deal on a Galaxy S7 from the Amazon Warehouse so went for one of those (would have been far too much at the normal price for me).
The S7 is a brilliant phone isn't it? I had one for a couple of weeks testing out what Android was like these days. The screen is fantastic, fast charging takes around 1hr 10mins for a full charge, battery life was great, got a day easily out of it. Camera is amazing.........

I could only find a couple of small annoyances, first being the speaker, it's nowhere near the quality of my iPhone, but it does it's job. And I watch a lot of YouTube on my phone and found that on the S7 the audio was slightly out of sync with the persons mouth, couldn't find anyway of sorting it out, it wasn't my internet or data speed as I've never had that problem on any other phone. Have you tried YouTube yet? It was only like half a second out, but it still annoyed me!

The pluses far out weigh the one or two negatives though
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Old 30-11-2016, 18:55
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The S7 is a brilliant phone isn't it? I had one for a couple of weeks testing out what Android was like these days. The screen is fantastic, fast charging takes around 1hr 10mins for a full charge, battery life was great, got a day easily out of it. Camera is amazing.........

I could only find a couple of small annoyances, first being the speaker, it's nowhere near the quality of my iPhone, but it does it's job. And I watch a lot of YouTube on my phone and found that on the S7 the audio was slightly out of sync with the persons mouth, couldn't find anyway of sorting it out, it wasn't my internet or data speed as I've never had that problem on any other phone. Have you tried YouTube yet? It was only like half a second out, but it still annoyed me!

The pluses far out weigh the one or two negatives though
I have not had a chance to play with it yet as it's not arriving until tomorrow.

The speaker does not bother me too much, but will check out YouTube to see if it has the same problem which is strange as my S5 is ok with YouTube.

Sometimes my Humax Freesat box is a split second out with the sound, but ok when I stop and start playing again, but it is annoying.

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Old 30-11-2016, 22:37
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Received mine today. It does have Google Now, you just swipe up for it instead of right (swipe right gets you their custom shelf thing)

Very early first impressions coming from my 6P, I am not disappointed at all! *touch wood*

Amazingly fast. Coming from the 6P I didn't think things could get much faster. Guess they could!

Screen looks fine to me. Eyeball searingly bright so should be fine in sunlight.

Everything is HUGE in the UI - I wouldn't mind a DPI setting and hope the N build brings that feature across like happened with the 6P. You can tweak it via adb (without root/unlock) and set it to 400 but OxygenOS's overlays (reboot icons, quick settings menu, shelf etc) are all based on 480 so end up looking odd. You can alleviate things a little by reducing the font size to "small".

I've only taken a couple of messy test shots (nothing I'd share) with the camera but despite claims to the contrary my experience so far has been *better* than the same shot taken with my 6P. It's true that low light stuff is poor by default, but I've found if I use HQ mode, I got better results than 6P's default. You can also set manual mode, ISO400, 1/3rd second exposure time for decent results.

VoLTE works on EE, which hopefully means 800MHz will, so long as they don't insist on whitelisting specific handsets. Wifi Calling does not.

Like with the camera and screen, I was expecting to be disappointed with the speaker coming from the 6P. I'm not. It's not as good obviously, you simply can't beat those stereo front firing speakers! But I've heard far worse from a phone. I like that they've chosen smaller chin size instead, to be honest.

It's cool that they've factory-fitted a screen protector. It's the first time I've seen one installed properly (I'm useless at them). Quite the fingerprint magnet though. From what I've read their screen itself doesn't have an oleophobic coating, which is a shame, or I'd just pull the protector off. Might eventually plump for their tempered glass one which I think does.

Charges nice and quickly off my portable power brick. At 53% it's going at 1400mA according to Ampere, it'd probably go faster at low percentages like the 6P does. The % is still going up with Pokemon Go open (even with AR enabled), which is what matters to me. As for longevity including PoGo sessions etc we'll see tomorrow.

I don't know if I'd have noticed the touch latency if there wasn't a big fuss about it. It's fine with gaming and everything as it doesn't seem to affect that type of touch it's just noticable with dragging vs. screen painting. E.g. if you're dragging an icon around or panning a map. Honestly I don't mind it - it feels a little bit like inertial scrolling - I'd have thought it was by design if there wasn't the furore.

Early days of course but so far so good and most of the things that worried me (screen, camera, speaker) so far haven't been an issue to me. Losing Wifi Calling was something I grudgingly accepted, though I'd certainly be pleased if it gets it in an update one day. Fingers crossed for 800 access.
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Old 01-12-2016, 12:17
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Correction, the speaker is tinnier than the baked beans aisle in Tesco. Well, can't have everything
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Old 02-12-2016, 12:10
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Thanks very much for the comprehensive and positive review. Just a few questions before I commit myself.
Can you use the USB C chargers which you used with the 6P?
Does the built in screen protector add much to the thickness of the phone?
Did you purchase from OnePlus directly - if so how long did it take to arrive? And can you return if you don't like it?



Received mine today. It does have Google Now, you just swipe up for it instead of right (swipe right gets you their custom shelf thing)

Very early first impressions coming from my 6P, I am not disappointed at all! *touch wood*

Amazingly fast. Coming from the 6P I didn't think things could get much faster. Guess they could!

Screen looks fine to me. Eyeball searingly bright so should be fine in sunlight.

Everything is HUGE in the UI - I wouldn't mind a DPI setting and hope the N build brings that feature across like happened with the 6P. You can tweak it via adb (without root/unlock) and set it to 400 but OxygenOS's overlays (reboot icons, quick settings menu, shelf etc) are all based on 480 so end up looking odd. You can alleviate things a little by reducing the font size to "small".

I've only taken a couple of messy test shots (nothing I'd share) with the camera but despite claims to the contrary my experience so far has been *better* than the same shot taken with my 6P. It's true that low light stuff is poor by default, but I've found if I use HQ mode, I got better results than 6P's default. You can also set manual mode, ISO400, 1/3rd second exposure time for decent results.

VoLTE works on EE, which hopefully means 800MHz will, so long as they don't insist on whitelisting specific handsets. Wifi Calling does not.

Like with the camera and screen, I was expecting to be disappointed with the speaker coming from the 6P. I'm not. It's not as good obviously, you simply can't beat those stereo front firing speakers! But I've heard far worse from a phone. I like that they've chosen smaller chin size instead, to be honest.

It's cool that they've factory-fitted a screen protector. It's the first time I've seen one installed properly (I'm useless at them). Quite the fingerprint magnet though. From what I've read their screen itself doesn't have an oleophobic coating, which is a shame, or I'd just pull the protector off. Might eventually plump for their tempered glass one which I think does.

Charges nice and quickly off my portable power brick. At 53% it's going at 1400mA according to Ampere, it'd probably go faster at low percentages like the 6P does. The % is still going up with Pokemon Go open (even with AR enabled), which is what matters to me. As for longevity including PoGo sessions etc we'll see tomorrow.

I don't know if I'd have noticed the touch latency if there wasn't a big fuss about it. It's fine with gaming and everything as it doesn't seem to affect that type of touch it's just noticable with dragging vs. screen painting. E.g. if you're dragging an icon around or panning a map. Honestly I don't mind it - it feels a little bit like inertial scrolling - I'd have thought it was by design if there wasn't the furore.

Early days of course but so far so good and most of the things that worried me (screen, camera, speaker) so far haven't been an issue to me. Losing Wifi Calling was something I grudgingly accepted, though I'd certainly be pleased if it gets it in an update one day. Fingers crossed for 800 access.
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Old 02-12-2016, 18:19
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Thanks very much for the comprehensive and positive review. Just a few questions before I commit myself.
Can you use the USB C chargers which you used with the 6P?
Does the built in screen protector add much to the thickness of the phone?
Did you purchase from OnePlus directly - if so how long did it take to arrive? And can you return if you don't like it?
Yes you can use the Nexus charger. It won't Dash charge, but still charge quickly enough (about 2A when I tried).

The screen protector is just a little film of plastic so no

Bought from 1+ and took a couple of days - though I think there short on stock now so you might not get one this side of Christmas.

14 day return policy as long as it's completely unmarked. I've heard of people marking the charging port area plugging in and having a return refused. I don't think you'll regret it though
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Old 03-12-2016, 16:43
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Thanks for that. It's now on order with a three week wait. A Christmas present to myself!


Yes you can use the Nexus charger. It won't Dash charge, but still charge quickly enough (about 2A when I tried).

The screen protector is just a little film of plastic so no

Bought from 1+ and took a couple of days - though I think there short on stock now so you might not get one this side of Christmas.

14 day return policy as long as it's completely unmarked. I've heard of people marking the charging port area plugging in and having a return refused. I don't think you'll regret it though
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Old 08-12-2016, 09:55
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Honestly?

It's a bloody fantastic device throws literally everything i've thrown at it with ease, it won't struggle anytime in the near future.

OnePlus 3T user
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Old 08-12-2016, 10:52
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Honestly?

It's a bloody fantastic device throws literally everything i've thrown at it with ease, it won't struggle anytime in the near future.

OnePlus 3T user
So they've sorted WifiCalling and VoLTE now?
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Old 08-12-2016, 13:50
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Yes to VoLTE, no to Wifi Calling.

Honestly this is such a good phone I don't care about WC any more. It'll be nice if ever it gets it, but I don't regret getting this device.
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Old 08-12-2016, 14:55
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Yes to VoLTE, no to Wifi Calling.

Honestly this is such a good phone I don't care about WC any more. It'll be nice if ever it gets it, but I don't regret getting this device.
So they've sorted WifiCalling and VoLTE now?
I'm unsure about other networks but my network is Three UK and it connects to 800Mhz so in theory if Three UK allows it and gave customers the VoLTE settings yes it would connect and providing the VoLTE settings are sent out to the device/sim, but Three UK won't allow OnePlus 3T users on VoLTE, but yes it's possible to get VoLTE on the device providing the network supports it for the device in question which is OnePlus 3T.

According to a Reddit user - https://www.reddit.com/r/tmobile/com...he_oneplus_3t/

This user appears to have got WiFi calling to work on the device so I would say as I said about the VoLTE as long as the network supports it AND ALLOWS THE DEVICE TO USE THE FEATURE, it should connect to it.

The technology is clearly there.
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Old 08-12-2016, 16:30
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Must admit I'm still tempted with this phone (especially after the great deal on the Amazon Warehouse Galaxy S7 did not turn out to be that good as it had a chip in the screen.

I'm going to try to hold out for the OnePlus 4 (or 5 some say they may call it) as the only thing that is niggling me is the HD screen (especially as I bought a VR headset recently.

Does look a good phone though and would snap it up if the 128gb version was £400.
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Old 19-12-2016, 14:59
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Here's more proof on the VoLTE.

http://i.imgur.com/z3AEKEz.png
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Old 19-12-2016, 15:03
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VoLTE works on EE but not on Three as I understand Three uses some proprietary authentication for Android devices, as a way of forcing you to use the devices they sell directly.
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Old 20-12-2016, 11:42
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VoLTE works on EE but not on Three as I understand Three uses some proprietary authentication for Android devices, as a way of forcing you to use the devices they sell directly.
It was to d123 as he implied there were problems with VoLTE.
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Old 20-12-2016, 12:44
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Is the 3T able to do dual-3G? Or is the second SIM always stuck on 2G (Thus meaning it's a bit pointless to use with a Three sim if you want to use anything other than 2G on the other network's sim)?
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Old 20-12-2016, 14:03
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It was to d123 as he implied there were problems with VoLTE.
I didn't imply anything, I asked a straight question, I simply asked if VoLTE and WifiCalling were sorted as you said the handset won't struggle with anything in the future.

It seems it will still struggle with WifiCalling and VoLTE on some networks so it still seems to have some issues to be resolved to really be futureproof.
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Old 20-12-2016, 14:10
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Is the 3T able to do dual-3G? Or is the second SIM always stuck on 2G (Thus meaning it's a bit pointless to use with a Three sim if you want to use anything other than 2G on the other network's sim)?
Both full 2/3/4G. Only one for data at a time though.

You can lock Sim1 to LTE or 3G only too.
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Old 20-12-2016, 14:23
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Both full 2/3/4G. Only one for data at a time though.

You can lock Sim1 to LTE or 3G only too.
Oh, so you could (conceivably) have Voda in Sim 1, EE in sim 2. If you set the Voda sim as the one to use for data, the EE sim would still connect to (say) 4G800 and offer VoLTE coverage?
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Old 20-12-2016, 16:56
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OnePlus' support is also questionable as they have essentially abandoned all their old handsets...
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Old 20-12-2016, 17:23
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Oh, so you could (conceivably) have Voda in Sim 1, EE in sim 2. If you set the Voda sim as the one to use for data, the EE sim would still connect to (say) 4G800 and offer VoLTE coverage?
In theory - not tried with a VoLTE SIM as I don't have one!
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Old 20-12-2016, 21:06
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OnePlus' support is also questionable as they have essentially abandoned all their old handsets...
That is the huge Android drawback in general. How long have they typically supported the old models with new versions of Android?
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