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Old 20-12-2016, 21:16
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Oh, so you could (conceivably) have Voda in Sim 1, EE in sim 2. If you set the Voda sim as the one to use for data, the EE sim would still connect to (say) 4G800 and offer VoLTE coverage?
I wouldn't think so, the sim that's not set for data tends to be locked to either 3G/2G or 2G only.
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Old 20-12-2016, 21:20
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That is the huge Android drawback in general. How long have they typically supported the old models with new versions of Android?
The OnePlus One had 3 updates 4.4>5, 5>5.1 and 5.1>6.
The OnePlus X had just 1 update, 5.1>6.

But that's the gamble you play when you go for a device with an older chipset, it's likely to be dropped at anytime.
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Old 20-12-2016, 21:32
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Can anyone tell me what the reception is like ? Is it good at holding on to weak signals ?
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Old 20-12-2016, 21:41
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That is the huge Android drawback in general. How long have they typically supported the old models with new versions of Android?
2 yrs generally though not always.

Never seen it as a drawback frankly. Ive had ipads and an iphone previously that got updates that made them almost unusable due to older hardware not being right for the bigger software.
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Old 20-12-2016, 23:55
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2 yrs generally though not always.

Never seen it as a drawback frankly. Ive had ipads and an iphone previously that got updates that made them almost unusable due to older hardware not being right for the bigger software.
Definitely the older iOS models suffered because they were extremely resource constrained when these smartphone devices where in their infancy, and the boundaries were being pushed. Now it's less of a problem because they are loaded with ridiculously powerful processors and lots of RAM.

2 years I can live with on the Android side, but it is tough knowing I'll get 4-5 years of iOS updates if I buy the Apple device. Given the price of the OnePlus though it's less of a pain point, and more understandable. It's the very expensive flagship devices from Samsung and Google that only get 18-24 months that bother me.

The OnePlus One had 3 updates 4.4>5, 5>5.1 and 5.1>6.
The OnePlus X had just 1 update, 5.1>6.

But that's the gamble you play when you go for a device with an older chipset, it's likely to be dropped at anytime.
Definitely not terrible then.
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Old 21-12-2016, 00:39
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I didn't imply anything, I asked a straight question, I simply asked if VoLTE and WifiCalling were sorted as you said the handset won't struggle with anything in the future.

It seems it will still struggle with WifiCalling and VoLTE on some networks so " still seems to have some issues to be resolved to really be futureproof.
The answer is yes the device (OnePlus 3T) will handle everything you throw at it.

It doesn't struggle with Wi-FI calling or VoLTE (If the provider allows it) the hardware is in the phone, It's up to the network if they allow certain devices to connect to certain services even though the phone supports it, just because selected networks don't allow certain features you can not punish the Mobile device for this beacuse the actual device supports it and doesn't have a issue (Which seems to be what your saying).

What do you refer as "It" has issues because It's the providers fault that they haven't allowed this device to connect to VoLTE (For example) rather than the mobile device in question.
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Old 21-12-2016, 06:13
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Can anyone tell me what the reception is like ? Is it good at holding on to weak signals ?
I find it much better than my iPhone 7+ at holding onto weak signals. You can lock the device to LTE only for data use so it doesn't drop to a stronger 3G/2G signal. Very impressed!
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Old 21-12-2016, 11:15
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Good to see OnePlus have worked on the signal reception. I remember the OnePlus One being good but not fantastic.

The signal on my iPhone 6s, is also pretty poor.
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Old 21-12-2016, 11:40
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The Register has done a review of the handset here:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/12...lus_3t_review/
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Old 21-12-2016, 21:09
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I was seriously considering getting a OnePlus 3T. Is it really important that Three's VoLTE isn't available on it, though? Are they really going to stop offering calls over 3G in the next few years? I can't even get Three's 4G at my house unless you put the phone within about a metre of the bedroom window, and I live in a sizeable Scottish city. God knows when they'll get my local masts upgraded - they seem to be dragging their feet. Not that it's that important to me - I knew there wasn't a good 4G signal from Three at home before I got my SIM - as the vast majority of my data usage is outside my house.
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Old 21-12-2016, 23:23
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The answer is yes the device (OnePlus 3T) will handle everything you throw at it.

It doesn't struggle with Wi-FI calling or VoLTE (If the provider allows it) the hardware is in the phone, It's up to the network if they allow certain devices to connect to certain services even though the phone supports it, just because selected networks don't allow certain features you can not punish the Mobile device for this beacuse the actual device supports it and doesn't have a issue (Which seems to be what your saying).

What do you refer as "It" has issues because It's the providers fault that they haven't allowed this device to connect to VoLTE (For example) rather than the mobile device in question.
Does it matter if the hardware is technically capable but doesn't work because it's the wrong iteration?

If "the device (OnePlus 3T) will handle everything you throw at it." then WifiCalling and VoLTE should be working on the networks offering it... yes? no?

It's a good phone, but still handicapped because it's not ranged on the majority of networks and so will always be an "outsider handset" unless Android eventually gets it's act in order and sorts the whole VoLTE and WifiCalling issues at its core.

For now, you need a proper mainstream handset like an iPhone or Galaxy S7 to really be able to say the device will handle everything you throw at it, because that's patently not true of the onePlus at present...
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Old 22-12-2016, 00:02
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Surely OnePlus should be talking with Three and EE to get it properly supported?

If they can talk with O2 and get them to carry it then surely they could do the same with the aforementioned networks too.
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Old 22-12-2016, 01:08
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If "the device (OnePlus 3T) will handle everything you throw at it." then WifiCalling and VoLTE should be working on the networks offering it... yes? no?

For now, you need a proper mainstream handset like an iPhone or Galaxy S7 to really be able to say the device will handle everything you throw at it, because that's patently not true of the onePlus at present...
Again it will providing the provider such as EE. The network controls the sim services and it can deny ANY device to connect to certain services at any given time if it's a Samsung Galaxy S7 or a Google Pixel or even a OnePlus 3T.

Providers have the right to refuse certain services to any mobile device including any user, again you can't punish the device because certain providers have "Blacklisted" certain features from certain devices.

You can't punish non "Mainstream" - as you put it devices because networks decide to not support certain devices using certain services.

Also technically no mobile device or computer will handle "Anything" you throw at it. There's limitations with every single device.
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Old 22-12-2016, 09:31
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Surely OnePlus should be talking with Three and EE to get it properly supported?
Maybe EE and Three said "how many will we sell?" and OnePlus could only reply "around 10,000" and they decided it wasn't enough to make it worth doing the engineering. Perhaps O2 thinks they will sell more.

Different customer bases.
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Old 23-12-2016, 00:34
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OnePlus' support is also questionable as they have essentially abandoned all their old handsets...
Not true at all. They've just today released a new version of Oxygen OS for the OnePlus Two and Nugget is coming out next year for it.

I do think that they could be a little bit more open about their plans, though. I guess they are a new(ish) company after all.
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Old 23-12-2016, 01:01
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Not exactly quick on the updates though are they. And others being slow doesn't excuse them either.
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Old 23-12-2016, 01:31
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Not exactly quick on the updates though are they. And others being slow doesn't excuse them either.
The point is that they are updating their older phones. Better late than never.
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Old 23-12-2016, 09:10
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Examples of any company other than Google with their own Nexus and Pixel lines who do release updates quickly? Keep in mind Moto is now owned by Lenovo. I'll wait...
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Old 23-12-2016, 11:47
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But that's exactly my point. Better late than never isn't excusable and we shouldn't allow any OEM to get away with it anymore.
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Old 23-12-2016, 12:02
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But that's exactly my point. Better late than never isn't excusable and we shouldn't allow any OEM to get away with it anymore.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2016/...here-it-hurts/
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Old 23-12-2016, 12:53
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Old 23-12-2016, 13:45
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Very interesting link mate. Thanks.
sadly that was May 2016, and nothing seems to have happened. The problem is the money; Android phones generally sell in the same way as other consumer items (e.g. televisions) with no income after the sale. So there is no incentive to the manufacturer to do any updates.
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