Oh I'm not excusing Pete at all! It's just that when this happened last time, I could kinda sorta understand him having an inappropriate crush on his attractive, caring auntie. It's Moira's response to his advances that was to me. I think most people would be pretty horrified if their nephew started coming on them one day, blood relation or not. I just found it hard to believe that she would ever have even considered going there. That was pretty bizarre. It's like the writers are determined to have her work her way through the entire Barton family and it's just weird at this point. Sometimes I wonder what poor old John would make of it all.

Anyway, Adam is the one I feel most sorry for. Imagine finding out your mother and your brother got 'passionate'. Real Jeremy Kyle material.

He's grown on me as well. Like lichen.

To be fair, he's all right. Unless he's snogging his auntie, in which case he's disgusting.

But with Leyla, he's all right.

Yep - and his Jeremy Kyle episode is.....................

I found my Daddy in my sock

Can you imagine if Pete got Moira pregnant. "I think my brother/cousin is the father of my mums baby."

The Bartons are giving the Dingles a run for their money in the weird family tree stakes.

I think the Sugdens are giving them all a run for their money too these days.

Victoria Sugden.................

I took my big brother's husband's virginity

It gives me a headache trying to remember who's s had sex with multiple family members and how they all inter- connect,( literally). There's s always less than 6 degrees of separation in ED that's s for sure

I like Pete (i think i kinda like him more then Ross, and his many other antics he has had, last one i remember is him and Charity, like i remember him being into Debbie last year lol)

I was wondering why Pete and Leyla thing was mostly off-screen lol.

Haven't they said before that the reason Moira is drawn to Pete and gets on so well with him is because he reminds her of John?

Tbh I don't think there are any real romantic feelings between them it's more to do with Moira hitting rock bottom and needing to lean on someone

Unfortunately everytime Moira goes through a bad spell she ends up kissing someone that she shouldn't, I think it would be great if they showed her actual friends (Chas, Diane, Vanessa) rallying round to support her. Unfortunatley for the purposes of this storyline they have forgotten that she has besties

I was wondering where all her good friends had gone - maybe Emma there all the time has put them off?

Bib. I think that makes it even more distasteful. They may not be blood related but she's known him since he was a child. I find it icky to be honest.

They do have a lot in common but I didn't mean that she was drawn to him in a romantic kind of way

Moira isn't some kind of predator who fancies her chances with her nephew, she's hit rock bottom, is plastered and wants comfort from the nearest available bloke (who unfortunatley happens to be her nephew) . IMO Moira has already been through enough and the stuff with Pete is 100% unnecessary

I know that isn't what you meant at all

I totally agree with you. It's ridiculous.

People saying that Pete and Moira kissing is disgusting are massively overreacting IMO.

They are not related by blood or even by marriage any more, what with James and John both being dead.

As we know John and James did not get on Moira would also have had no interaction with Pete, Ross or Finn as they grew up and certainly would never have been a nurturing mother figure to them.

It's more weird that he would want a woman sexually that his Dad has had (imo) than it is that they are very loosely Aunt and Nephew.

Edit: I should clarify though that I don't like the pairing because I don't like Pete and Moira should be with Cain!

Didn't we have a similar story with Jack Sudden and Rachel Hughes?

Even so, I think Pete is better with Leyla and Moira is doing nothing to win sympathy.

BIB- Win sympathy? You must be watching a different show because my heart breaks for Moira right now- she steals every scene she is in with her realistic and powerful portrayal of a mother who lost her child- I feel it for her naturally because what happened to her is so awful- she doesn't have to "win" sympathy.

I'd forgive Moira for anything right now given her vulnerable state.

People are aware they're not blood related. She still knew him as a child and was a mother figure to him which is what I find weird.

How right you are - Moira is a paragon of virtue! Haha.

Cheating on her husband with his brother.
Cheating on her husband with his enemy.
Sleeping with her son's friend.
Sleeping with her nephew.

It's lovely that your such a forgiving person, but she's made some small blunders to say the least!

The writing has been very good for this storyline except for the fact that the writers seem to have forgotten that Moira has friends. They have thrown her together with Pete because they say she has no one else to turn to and that isn't true at all

My heart breaks for her too and I understand how vulnerable she is. Pete is in the same position. I' ve got sympathy for both. We all grieve at some point but we don't make moves on nephews or aunt's/ uncles and even though there is he blood relationship, they did view each other as aunt/ nephew for most of their lives - his brothers still call her Auntie Moira FGS. It's s not just that she's s family, she's s also an older generation of family, something that normally rules out a sexual relationship, for understandable reasons. There' s more to family than blood relationship. That's s why people are questioning it.

Saying that I suspect it will just be a momentary thing and she'll realise what she's doing. TBH I think he's s the one with the issue - he seems to be fascinated by her. She just needs someone to turn to and chooses the wrong person. It'll be over before it's s started but ED have cleverly stirred up some debate to promote the non- story

I think if you compare Moira to the rest of the villagers she is actually quite virtuous

Do you think we shouldn't feel sorry for Moira because of what she has done in the past?

Yes it's the same with Emma too. It's very contrived. Diane would be round every day

I completely agree. Moira's coming across as a totally broken woman, heartbroken, and she's amazing. I'm not watching soaps to see saintly people who don't mess up. Moira does that a lot, but she also gets called out on it more than other characters, even when not necessary.

So true. Chas is hanging at the pub without mentioning Moira, all her friends are written like Moira's daughter didn't just die. It's annoying, tbh.

I agree she does deserve sympathy,cregardless of her behaviour. I can't imagine how awful losing a child must be.

This thing with Pete is just a horrible attempt to get publicity by introducing a bit of scandal. They' re making out like it's s an affair when it's s probably a flash in the pan that Moira will instantly regret. They should be more worried about why Pete is so fascinated with his aunt